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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Another way to interpret the Law of One, with Hans Wilhelm.

    Thread: Another way to interpret the Law of One, with Hans Wilhelm.


    flofrog (Offline)

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    #31
    12-11-2020, 05:35 PM
    my goodness, and I thought Dtris and Peregrine were ancient <sigh>
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    #32
    12-11-2020, 06:43 PM
    (12-11-2020, 05:35 PM)flofrog Wrote: my goodness, and I thought Dtris and Peregrine were ancient  <sigh>

    I am no longer a spring chicken, but I am also far from ancient. Maybe someday I will get there. When I do I hope I still have a little youthful vigor lol. BigSmile
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      • flofrog, Black Dragon
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    #33
    12-11-2020, 10:35 PM
    This may or may not be useful to get the conversation back to the topic and less tilted toward the energy of division/detuning.

    Ignore if it isn’t helpful.

    Two quotes


    101.8 Ra
    The entity which is given constant and unremitting approval by those surrounding it suffers from the loss of the mirroring effect of those which reflect truthfully rather than unquestioningly.

    This is not a suggestion to reinstate judgment but merely a suggestion for all those supporting instruments; that is, support, be harmonious, share in love, joy, and thanksgiving, but find love within truth, for each instrument benefits from this support more than from the total admiration which overcomes discrimination.

    And from a post on the forum earlier today which really summed up how we should approach each other on forum to me. Compassion and wisdom.

    A reminder.
    “ In fact, never mind the challenges of doing serious work in spirit, we of either affiliation who would clean up our energy systems to even begin to have serious energy flow to the heart center or above, are so heavily burdened by racial and planetary blockages and over activations as to make the preliminary work nearly overwhelming for us all.”

    This is not to say anyone’s truth is incorrect but that we can have different truths and that’s great. We all talked about avoiding detuning within the forum and if we can remember these points maybe we can keep things from getting further detuned and chase off the moderators again. Smile

    Mirrors are great. We have different truths. It’s ok.

    Apologies if this seems none of my business just doing what I can to as an unbiased member keep the energy tuned to harmony if we can.
    ❤️??
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    #34
    12-11-2020, 10:37 PM
    By the way I’m holding up mirror for myself and see it might not be my business. Smile

    I know what it’s like to react and to be hurt or irritated so just trying to add a pause here in the convo so maybe a new energy can enter the discussion.

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    J.W. (Offline)

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    #35
    12-12-2020, 12:37 AM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2020, 12:41 AM by J.W..)
    (12-11-2020, 10:35 PM)Glow Wrote: This may or may not be useful to get the conversation back to the topic and less tilted toward the energy of division/detuning.

    Ignore if it isn’t helpful.

    Two quotes


    101.8 Ra
    The entity which is given constant and unremitting approval by those surrounding it suffers from the loss of the mirroring effect of those which reflect truthfully rather than unquestioningly.

    This is not a suggestion to reinstate judgment but merely a suggestion for all those supporting instruments; that is, support, be harmonious, share in love, joy, and thanksgiving, but find love within truth, for each instrument benefits from this support more than from the total admiration which overcomes discrimination.

    And from a post on the forum earlier today which really summed up how we should approach each other on forum to me. Compassion and wisdom.

    A reminder.
    “ In fact, never mind the challenges of doing serious work in spirit, we of either affiliation who would clean up our energy systems to even begin to have serious energy flow to the heart center or above, are so heavily burdened by racial and planetary blockages and over activations as to make the preliminary work nearly overwhelming for us all.”

    This is not to say anyone’s truth is incorrect but that we can have different truths and that’s great. We all talked about avoiding detuning within the forum and if we can remember these points maybe we can keep things from getting further detuned and chase off the moderators again. Smile

    Mirrors are great. We have different truths. It’s ok.

    Apologies if this seems none of my business just doing what I can to as an unbiased member keep the energy tuned to harmony if we can.
    ❤️??

    No worries Glow, Smile and this is nothing big, it actually doesn't cause any detuning at all since it's petty behaviors, and it has been here since I joined the forum.

    the tactics are to disseminate, discredit, disagree, and create as much subtle jabs as possible while skirting the forum policies. Manipulative and petty, so I don't pay too much attention or energy to it much more.

    This was predicted, therefore I mentioned consistently in the OP about the intention of my post knowing it attracts such energies.

    I would like to keep the OP positive like the conversation you, me, and Aion had a few days back, and welcoming the holidays/new year with compassion and wisdom.


    Please don't let these things get to ya, and stay positive, Heart

    it's ok, you're not "involve" with the "mirror" accusation and "de-railing" injection that other members trying to do.

    The original content is to share different perspective and interpretation of the Law of One and Spiritual growth, it has nothing to do with religion, Christ, or all the "mirror" introspection talks.

    I would just ignore it all since it is an attempt to detune, and create bellicosity.

    Much Light,
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    #36
    12-12-2020, 01:26 AM
      
    Wow.  I get it now.  This is deep.

    I'm having trouble finding words....


    Be at peace, J.W.  All is forgiven and lain to rest.  Be at peace.

    Let's all relinquish combat and find respectful repose.
      
      
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    #37
    12-12-2020, 12:20 PM
    (12-09-2020, 03:14 PM)J.W. Wrote: From a religious point of view and indoctrination, this is completely valid.
    ...
    Again, I hope you didn't get too swayed by peregrine's opinion on my OP intention. It's not here to spread religions, or follow "Christ," Not all of Hans illustrations are about his own personal point of view. (And even if it is, he doesn't force it on people like "religion" does.)

    I wasn't swayed by Peregrine's post, but I was responding to it. I did watch the video, and although I can understand what you are saying, as everyone walks their own path and different things prompt us along the way, I have particular negative feelings about organized religion (especially Christianity) not because of any personal injuries, but because of its (violent) domination historically and all the other obvious reasons. Also, I am a bit of a rebel, and given that Christians tell me I have to make propitiations, it rather colors any content, for me, that derives from a religious point of view. 

    I do get that one can derive meaning and value from anything. Smile  I, for example, do not have to believe or disbelieve that there are those of Ra who were channeled through Carla. But I resonate with the content.
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    #38
    12-14-2020, 10:59 PM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2020, 11:00 PM by jafar.)
    (12-09-2020, 12:59 AM)peregrine Wrote:
    (12-08-2020, 05:08 PM)jafar Wrote: But I'm curious, on which video he said that those who are not Christian will not advance to the 'final stage'.
      
    This is the video link in the OP. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gKgLRabGeU

    The related verbiage begins around 13:45.  He says "Ascended Masters" are well meaning and sometimes associated with Eastern religious, but are unaware that they are deficient--and incapable of "going to heaven"--owing to their ignorance of Jesus Christ.  No justification is given for the Christian supremacy ideology.  I guess you're just supposed to know about that.

    What you make of it is up to you.  Personally, I suspect its a trap, a way to help people feel comfortable in their fear.  But I could be wrong about that.
       

    Ah I see.. so Hans was mentioning "The Christ" and not "Christian" the identity / religion.
    I think he should have use a better term to avoid misunderstanding.

    There is a 'state / condition' which act as a 'border' between 'finite identification' and 'infinite identification'.
    Ra uses the term '6th density' and 'higher self'.
    The Hindus / Buddhist uses the term 'Atman'.
    And I think Jesus / Judaeic tradition use the term "Ruach Ha Kodesh", "Ruhul Qudus", "Holy Spirit".
    My understanding is that all of those terms refer to the same concept.

    Every 'finite identification' will eventually arrived on that 'state' just before the unification with the infinite, or in Buddhist term before reaching the state of "Nirvana".
    The 'state' is achieved through 'releasing' all of the previously obtained identification, 'ascension' is not achieved through 'gaining' but is achieved through 'releasing', not through 'winning' but through 'losing'. As also the term "Nirvana" implies the literal meaning of 'blowing out'...
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