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    Thread: Alex Jones has been banned from YouTube


    Sirius (Offline)

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    #1
    05-18-2009, 09:23 AM
    One of my subscriptions on Youtube sent me a video about Censorship on youtube and how Alex Jones has now been banned.

    Alex Jones rings a bell but I didn't initially think who it was.

    Google search #1 is infowars.com of which he is the webmaster of!

    For those that do not know this website it contains almost all of the NWO conspiracy stories of FEMA concentration camps, false flag terror attacks etc etc

    I really follow these conspiracies as such, I feel they are true, but to spend alot of time thinking about them only enduces negativity in the mind.

    What does this mean? I don't really know yet, but I used to think Google was a friend to truthseekers, apparantly not.

    A couple of years ago when I first came across infowars I said something to myself like this website will be one of the first to come down if everything is true.

    I don't wish to sound niave but I also don't want to be niave in dismissing it. Please take a warning from this post, what kind of warning I don't know. But a warning there is, for me at least.

    I for one am glad I live in the UK not USA. the UK will probably follow suit but America is the testing grounds for most NWO tactics.

    I am very worried about our future on this planet.

    I probably sound like a deluded paranoid, but there is as much evedence if not more than for TLOO to make a small point.

    Look after yourselves, and if you are following a STO path, hold onto it as tightly as you can. If the **** does go down, this is our only salvation.

    Love and Light!

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    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    #2
    05-18-2009, 10:02 AM
    Hold the conclusions, recently a singer who had posted her own material on youtube had her account banned because someone complained it was copyrighted content. It took her over a month to get the music back up. "You're a famous singer? Yes ma'am, and I'm the queen of England." Those kind of errors happen all the time.

    I would not listen to Alex Jones too much on this topic, first of all it's bad for the heart, secondly, he's likely to inflate this and make it sound as if he's been banned from youtube as a terrible violation of his right to free speech. Proving that everything he said is true. You just know that in absence of facts everyone is going to believe this and be his fan. This is the stuff the man thrives on. While in the end someone probably complained about him using copyrighted music. And Youtube requires some time to establish the truth of this..

    You know this is true if you see him draw a knee jerk conclusion before he's had time to establish the facts. Contacting Youtube and establishing the facts costs at least weeks.

    If they did not immediately cancel the accounts that are complained about they'd be liable for lots of damages. And in the end ALL videos would be taken offline.. It's messy, but it's the RIAA's fault. Don't blame google directly they have no choice in the matter.

    Do you have an url? I'd like to monitor this. Looking for Alex Jones on Youtube gives thousands of results. It's not exactly as if this removes his material. Smile And do you think it's impossible for the man to release new videos now? Don't you think one of his fans (or a gazillion of them) would post his video for him?

    Ok, here's my conspiracy theory: "Jones is occasionally accused of being fed conspiracy stories by the negative elite to cause fear uncertainty and doubt. (He's proven to be good at that) One of those guys figured it'd be a boon to Jones's reputation to get his you tube site pulled down temporarily. How do you do it? The most simple straightforward way possible. File a copyright claim..."

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    Sirius (Offline)

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    05-18-2009, 10:26 AM (This post was last modified: 05-18-2009, 07:38 PM by Sirius.)
    Sound logic, I can't argue with that, and copyrighted material takedowns are so common it makes me sick. and I agree with 100% of it.

    I don't know very many facts about the Alex Jones story so far.

    Alex Jones is my front line of defense from the government, and he is now under attack.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Q-Kpt86...2448036.72
    http://www.infowars.com/you-tube-in-egre...s-channel/

    IF only even 20% of his stories are true, we're in for a ride.

    IF any of them are true, then surely the time is coming soon.

    YouTube are attemtping to monetize the site. Stopping non ad friendly videos and generating more ad friendly stuff, non-user-generated. Youtube is changing, and may not be a good place to finding information for much longer.

    Capitaization or Tyrany strikes again, or both?

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    ayadew

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    05-18-2009, 01:54 PM
    They pulled the new Alex Jones account too. Please tell if you find him anew

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    Monica (Offline)

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    #5
    05-18-2009, 10:23 PM
    (05-18-2009, 10:02 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Ok, here's my conspiracy theory: "Jones is occasionally accused of being fed conspiracy stories by the negative elite to cause fear uncertainty and doubt.

    Well said!

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    05-18-2009, 10:41 PM
    (05-18-2009, 10:23 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:
    (05-18-2009, 10:02 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Ok, here's my conspiracy theory: "Jones is occasionally accused of being fed conspiracy stories by the negative elite to cause fear uncertainty and doubt.

    Well said!
    I concur!

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    gharghur (Offline)

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    #7
    05-19-2009, 01:35 AM
    Many have mixed opinions about Alex. But he is waking people up to the negatively biased forces that control most of the world.
    Alex filed a lawsuit in Federal court regarding the site(s) suspension. Several of their sites were suspended. Heard Google has reinstated the sites today pending court decision. Innocent until proven guilty still works, sometimes.
    As people wake up to the fact that their freedom is an illusion, and they are being controlled. Then it's not such a big step to awakening to the greater illusion.

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    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    05-19-2009, 04:50 AM
    (05-19-2009, 01:35 AM)gharghur Wrote: Many have mixed opinions about Alex. But he is waking people up to the negatively biased forces that control most of the world.
    Alex filed a lawsuit in Federal court regarding the site(s) suspension. Several of their sites were suspended. Heard Google has reinstated the sites today pending court decision. Innocent until proven guilty still works, sometimes.
    As people wake up to the fact that their freedom is an illusion, and they are being controlled. Then it's not such a big step to awakening to the greater illusion.

    Actually, in the case of copyright infringement it's guilty until proven innocent. Meaning that unless Google takes immediate action whenever a DMCA claim is made they're liable to loose a lot of money, Google already lost half a billion dollars on youtube last year. Meaning that every logical thinking executive would try to keep the losses to a minimum, if that means some discomfort to the users. So be it. The DMCA is draconian and unfair but you should blame this on the government allowing the copyright industry to push laws, and not blame Google for being the victim of this law.

    You should expect a lot more advertisement and monetisation of youtube. If this bothers you, imagine what you prefer, youtube with adds, or no youtube at all....

    Seeing Jones as protection from the government is in my opinion similar to seeing the pope as protection from sexually transmitted diseases. There's a lot of noise on the subject but no real content.

    Do you think the "evil shadow government" would go through the trouble to attempt to silence the man by blocking his youtube account? Ignoring all his videos that were already copied and then placed into other peoples accounts? Also ignoring the very obvious and non surprising outcry of the masses? If they wanted him silenced he'd die in an accident or of a particularly virulent form of chicken herpes.

    Here's what's going to happen... Jones sued the newspaper that filed the DMCA takedown notice right? Either the newspaper backs down or they counter sue Jones for libel on some silly remark he made about them being in some kind of shadow governments pocket.

    If Jones reaches the courts and his work somehow becomes entangled as part of the ruling. Then I can assure you that he's not going to win. He cannot prove 90% of his claims. And the newspaper would like to use this if they can. However I don't think this case is strong.

    Also this newspaper has little to win by taking down Jones. They could put all this down as removing a nuisance from the public. Jones could be painted as a conspiracy nut who bit of more than he could chew. People love to pick on these guys. But in the end this is just a minor bonus.

    And at the same time it would be a big bonus for Jones his work. Because so many people would get introduced to his work. The newspaper guys are probably not stupid. So I expect them to foresee this. (Although they did allow themselves to get dragged into this swamp in the first place)

    I expect the newspaper to drop it's DMCA charges. And take on the internal policy to never mention the man again. Jones will proclaim himself victorious once again against the "evil shadow government". And that will be it.

    But of course this is speculation. I'm a psychologist, not a lawyer.

    Meanwhile back in the secret lab. The true leader of the western hemisphere is reading the reports for the day and laughing his bottom off..

    I think Jones should be allowed to do what he does. The fact that I don't agree with him and think he's silly doesn't mean he should be silenced. He's what you get in a free society. He's a healthy symptom. A welfare problem. Do you think China Iran or Russia have equivalents? In a way he is in fact protection against the government. He's like the Canary in the mine. As long as he's still singing his song you're kind of safe.

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    Sirius (Offline)

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    05-19-2009, 06:58 AM
    (05-19-2009, 04:50 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: I think Jones should be allowed to do what he does. The fact that I don't agree with him and think he's silly doesn't mean he should be silenced. He's what you get in a free society. He's a healthy symptom. A welfare problem. Do you think China Iran or Russia have equivalents? In a way he is in fact protection against the government. He's like the Canary in the mine. As long as he's still singing his song you're kind of safe.

    I Couldn't put it better myself. As is proof of my last two posts Tongue

    I'm not a raving conspiracy whore, I only ever "stumble" on these things.

    I love the canary analogy, it puts my feelings in perfect perspective Smile

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    Lavazza (Offline)

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    05-19-2009, 07:44 AM (This post was last modified: 05-19-2009, 07:44 AM by Lavazza.)
    Ali Quadir,

    Excellent post! I think you have a lot of good insights on the topic and they make a lot of sense to me, especially that last bit. Sorry, this post doesn't really contribute to the conversation, but I had to express the thanks Smile

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    gharghur (Offline)

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    #11
    05-19-2009, 10:21 AM
    The Pittsburgh newspaper is not involved in the lawsuit.
    That claim was already proven to be a fraud.

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    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    05-19-2009, 01:15 PM
    (05-19-2009, 10:21 AM)gharghur Wrote: The Pittsburgh newspaper is not involved in the lawsuit.
    That claim was already proven to be a fraud.

    Can you clarify Gharghur? Who made the claim in the first place? Jones?

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    gharghur (Offline)

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    05-19-2009, 01:43 PM
    (05-19-2009, 01:15 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote:
    (05-19-2009, 10:21 AM)gharghur Wrote: The Pittsburgh newspaper is not involved in the lawsuit.
    That claim was already proven to be a fraud.

    Can you clarify Gharghur? Who made the claim in the first place? Jones?

    There were two complaints to Google, the Pitts newspaper and another.
    Since the Pitts newspaper really did not make a complaint, that was dismissed. Jones filed suit against the other party.
    Was reported 12:45 AM EST last night.

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    peelstreetguy (Offline)

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    05-19-2009, 08:00 PM (This post was last modified: 05-19-2009, 08:01 PM by peelstreetguy.)
    I used to checkout prison planet all the time (Alex Jones website). Now I go to "what really happened" Mike Rivero's website. I like that site a lot for the news you will never hear in North American mainstream media!

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    Sirius (Offline)

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    05-20-2009, 09:48 PM
    is it a blessing that there is no european equivalent? Tongue

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    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    05-21-2009, 03:47 PM
    (05-20-2009, 09:48 PM)Sirius Wrote: is it a blessing that there is no european equivalent? Tongue

    For sure, the question in the end is.... A blessing to whom? Tongue

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