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    Ankh (Offline)

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    #61
    02-24-2011, 12:21 PM
    (02-24-2011, 12:12 PM)Derek ~ Wrote: But maybe it's a blue ray issue too..which deal with self issues also. Only you know!

    No I don't for a moment. What I do know is that I seem to have blockages in that nexi too. Now it feels like I am a complete mess, maybe I should be put in that hospice and get healed. Tongue But, anyway, please tell me what your thoughts were regarding what you wrote above about blue ray?

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    02-24-2011, 01:09 PM (This post was last modified: 02-24-2011, 04:06 PM by native.)
    Hehe, no please stay! We need you. Well I was just looking in the material where it says blue deals with communication to the self and others, honesty with the self...identifying with the self and allowing these attributes to be expressed. It seems to be the culmination of all the lower energies and then allowing that to come through you. Issues would manifest as feeling like you can't be yourself, or that no one understands you because you're not presenting yourself honestly on the exterior..your true nature feels pent up and you want to break free..which may also show up as the inability to feel love because you can't communicate it or feel that communication, because a lack of connection with the true self (but I could be wrong). It's like they're loving a shell image of you, but you have no emotional connection to that image so nothing is felt..again, just a theory because I could be way off as it relates to blue energy.

    Blue energy is a focal point in this incarnation for me. This manifests physically as trouble with speaking clearly to people. Not in a nervous way, but literally..I fumble my words and my ideas are jumbled sometimes. I probably should slow down and start talking like some Eastern sage, with long pauses between thoughts Tongue In my mind my thoughts are clear as day..I must be used to telepathy! Tongue I've made major strides though. But yeah, to be vague I have trouble with presenting my true self in that I don't want to hurt others. I'm trying to be myself and embrace what I know without infringing on others beliefs..I don't want to shatter their paradigm.

    So to work with this energy, one would truly allow themselves to be who they are on the outside without fear. Wisdom..it's owning the self! You have a right to your needs, wants, and desires. This balances that loving green energy, so you don't neglect yourself.

    But there's also a line of caution in there that I was just reading, which I was referring to when I said I could be wrong by confusing energies, let me find it..


    Quote:48.9 Questioner: Could you tell me how the various bodies, red through violet, are linked to the energy centers, red through violet? Are they linked in some way?

    Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

    As we have noted, each of the true color densities has the seven energy centers and each entity contains all this in potentiation. The activation, while in yellow-ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience. There are adepts who have penetrated many, many of the energy centers and several of the true colors. This must be done with utmost care while in the physical body for as we noted when speaking of the dangers of linking red/orange/yellow circuitry with true color blue circuitry the potential for disarrangement of the mind/body/spirit complex is great. However, the entity who penetrates intelligent infinity is basically capable of walking the universe with unfettered tread.
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    #63
    02-24-2011, 04:49 PM
    You can always offer the healing; they may or may not accept it at a subconscious level. Offering is not infringing upon their free will.

    If I see someone in need of help in awkward circumstances, I will send it remotely, asking consent from their Higher Self. Again, it may or may not be accepted.

    Either way, do not become attached to the outcome Smile
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    #64
    02-28-2011, 06:13 AM
    i found the below passage today and thought it might help.Heart:idea:
    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._1113.aspx
    Quote:R: Q’uo, I had one question on this topic. Earlier you mentioned not to attempt to serve from the yellow-ray center and I did not understand the context. Would you say it in a different way?

    We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. When we speak of loving from the yellow-ray energy center, we are speaking of willing oneself to love. The emotions that you are given with your physical body are finite. They can be exhausted and we do not encourage the attempt to love and to serve from the yellow ray. Let us give you an example, my brother.

    Say that a healer wishes to heal another who is ill and the healer has a good deal of personal power, a real gift for healing. The healer can do one of two things. It can work from the yellow ray or it can work from the green ray. If it works from the yellow ray, it has not engaged the open heart, it has not ascended to the gateway of intelligent infinity to ask for help from spirit. There is simply the decision that that person needs healing and it’s going to be done. And so the healer engages with the one to be healed and perhaps touches that patient and perhaps is even able to reduce or eliminate pain for a given period of time. But the energy of human intent without spirit’s aid becomes exhausted after an hour or a day. The comfort that was desired to be given is given but then it is taken away because the energy is exhausted.

    Now, the one who heals from the green ray empties the self of all but the intent to act as an instrument for the infinite love and light of the one Creator and it allows itself to be used as an instrument of healing by spirit, which moves through that precious nexus that you represent, that place where infinite energies can come into a finite world. That energy is intelligent. It knows where it needs to go and how it needs to work. There is no need for thought. There is no need for effort. There is only the need to offer oneself as an instrument, then infinite energy flows through which is never exhausted. It is the same way, my brother, with love itself.

    You can school your behavior to imitate loving others, but you cannot force yourself to love others for you become exhausted. However, if you open your heart against all odds sometimes, against the resistance of the surrounding ambiance, and simply rest in the open heart, love can flow through you on a continuing basis. Then your job simply becomes the reopening of a closed heart—and a heart can close in a heartbeat, shall we say, because there is fear, because there is danger, because there is destruction, because of so many things, whether the problems are with yourself, with others, with your job, with something that irritates you, with something that causes you pain, with suffering that you’ve had to endure.

    There are as many ways to close the heart as there are emotions in the human breast, and there are as many ways to open it again as the remembering consciousness can find. But it is not necessary to will the self to be so-and-so, such-and-such. It is necessary only to intend to keep the heart open and serve, and hold, above all, that frequency of the infinite love and light of the one Creator.
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    #65
    02-28-2011, 07:18 AM
    I would like to take the opportunity to thank you all.

    Derek, my brother, thank you for efforts you put in answering my many questions.

    Namasté, you beautiful soul, thank you, for answering my main concern.

    And spero, my brother, thank you for the effort in sharing this beautiful quote by Quo. It really confirmed my inner understanding that I could not find the right words for.

    Namasté
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    #66
    03-01-2011, 06:36 AM
    (02-28-2011, 06:13 AM)spero Wrote: <snippy snip> It is necessary only to intend to keep the heart open and serve, and hold, above all, that frequency of the infinite love and light of the one Creator.

    Marvellous Q'uote, thank you. I would imagine many green-ray healers here have walked/discovered this path themselves; first starting with taught techniques and following processes, before being gifted the realisation that humble, loving intent, combined with calls for assistance from spirit, is the key.

    (02-28-2011, 07:18 AM)Ankh Wrote: I would like to take the opportunity to thank you all.

    Derek, my brother, thank you for efforts you put in answering my many questions.

    Namasté, you beautiful soul, thank you, for answering my main concern.

    And spero, my brother, thank you for the effort in sharing this beautiful quote by Quo. It really confirmed my inner understanding that I could not find the right words for.

    Namasté

    Glad to be of help brother.

    L&L
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    03-01-2011, 12:23 PM
    You're welcome!

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    03-06-2011, 02:51 AM
    (02-11-2011, 12:55 PM)Ankh Wrote: I work at a hospice where people spend their last days before they leave this life. There was a problem I encountered when I worked tonight.

    I have a healing ability. When I use it, it has always been by request of others. I never use any kind of Power over others self without their consent, with one exception. My own doughter. She is only four years and can therefore not understand it fully yet. So I've healed her couple of times when she was sick without her consent. Anyway, I've never used it on other children or any adults without them knowing it and approving it.

    This night I had a patient who was suffocated due a very progressed obstructive lung decease. Usually there are relatives with the dying person around the clock. But this poor man was left alone for the first time since it progressed that far tonight on my watch. He was in a severe anxiety stage and was whispereing that he didn't get enough air. Well, you see the picture.

    Now the problem is that I am prohibited to heal or use any other non approved by science teqniques by swedish law. This specially applies for the dying people. If I do that I will loose my nursing licence and will be prosecuted. Despite that it is also in conflict with my own strong principles of using any kind of supernatural abilities on people if they are not aware of it, and have approved it.

    This man was in a really bad condition. Imagine yourself if you would slowly suffocating to death. When I put my hand on his back I felt power running through my arm and my palm got really hot as it does when the force is in work. And just like that he started to breath in a more calm matter and relaxed by closing his eyes.

    What to do?

    You didn't even do it intentionally. Something else was acting through you or for you.

    Don't give it another thought. And don't bother to bring it up to the nursing board, though they would probably just say you comforted him and relaxed him, which is surely permitted!

    I wouldn't even call this an ethical dilemma! Smile
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