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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density Has Harvest begun? Inelia Benz says so.

    Thread: Has Harvest begun? Inelia Benz says so.


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    #31
    09-21-2011, 09:43 PM
    My lesser soul says the harvest has been going on for over a year. And there are many with dual activated bodies. Not only that but I have found an infant with 5D activation. Is it possible to run that one by Quo? I don't understand that one. But who cares, we are still here doing the same ol same ol without a conscious awareness of that "switch" having been flipped. BigSmile
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    #32
    09-22-2011, 06:17 AM
    If we are going from the Ra books Higher self has no polarity, to serve self and others is the same thing at that level.
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    09-23-2011, 06:43 PM (This post was last modified: 09-23-2011, 06:59 PM by loop.)
    (09-21-2011, 06:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: there is no such thing as 'sts' at mid 6th density. refer to the material for subjects relating to 'higher self'. even himmler's higher self when he was incarnated here, was told to be positive in mid 6th.

    I think there is. 6th density is the point of merging of the STS & STO paths

    36.15 Wrote:Questioner: Well then let’s say that when Himmler reaches sixth-density negative, would he realize that his Higher Self was positively oriented and for that reason make the jump from negative to positive orientation?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The sixth-density negative entity is extremely wise. It observes the spiritual entropy occurring due to the lack of ability to express the unity of sixth-density. Thus, loving the Creator and realizing at some point that the Creator is not only self but other-self as self, this entity consciously chooses an instantaneous energy reorientation so that it may continue its evolution.

    And since there is no time actually, there always is this sixth density portion which was/is/will always (be) there to act as a Higher Self as a highest level of STS service. And that's great - after all this STS separation even from the (higher) self in 3/4/5th density, the entity finally starts to accept others, be it it's own selves as a first step (LOL).

    And btw, my higher self confirmed that he is an STS the first time I asked this about 2 years ago. I was shocked back then and could not understand it. Thought it was someone interfering with the dowsing channel and got a bit scared actually.Now it makes perfect sense. The HS service is of an STS nature ... and that also means that portions of us are taking the STS path ... and that also makes sense. Neither of us would be complete without this experience, gladly not in this incarnation for me.[/quote][/quote]

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    #34
    09-24-2011, 04:48 AM (This post was last modified: 09-24-2011, 04:48 AM by unity100.)
    (09-23-2011, 06:43 PM)knaumov Wrote:
    (09-21-2011, 06:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: there is no such thing as 'sts' at mid 6th density. refer to the material for subjects relating to 'higher self'. even himmler's higher self when he was incarnated here, was told to be positive in mid 6th.

    I think there is. 6th density is the point of merging of the STS & STO paths

    36.15 Wrote:Questioner: Well then let’s say that when Himmler reaches sixth-density negative, would he realize that his Higher Self was positively oriented and for that reason make the jump from negative to positive orientation?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The sixth-density negative entity is extremely wise. It observes the spiritual entropy occurring due to the lack of ability to express the unity of sixth-density. Thus, loving the Creator and realizing at some point that the Creator is not only self but other-self as self, this entity consciously chooses an instantaneous energy reorientation so that it may continue its evolution.

    And since there is no time actually, there always is this sixth density portion which was/is/will always (be) there to act as a Higher Self as a highest level of STS service. And that's great - after all this STS separation even from the (higher) self in 3/4/5th density, the entity finally starts to accept others, be it it's own selves as a first step (LOL).

    And By the way, my higher self confirmed that he is an STS the first time I asked this about 2 years ago. I was shocked back then and could not understand it. Thought it was someone interfering with the dowsing channel and got a bit scared actually.Now it makes perfect sense. The HS service is of an STS nature ... and that also means that portions of us are taking the STS path ... and that also makes sense. Neither of us would be complete without this experience, gladly not in this incarnation for me.

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#12

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. There are no negative beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality, of late sixth-density as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth-density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive.

    Therefore, the Oversoul which makes its understanding available to all who are ready for such aid is towards the positive. However, the free will of the individual is paramount, and any guidance given by the Higher Self may be seen in either the positive or negative polarity depending upon the choice of a mind/body/spirit complex.


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    #35
    09-24-2011, 02:13 PM (This post was last modified: 09-24-2011, 02:16 PM by Monica.)
    (09-23-2011, 06:43 PM)knaumov Wrote:
    (09-21-2011, 06:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: there is no such thing as 'sts' at mid 6th density. refer to the material for subjects relating to 'higher self'. even himmler's higher self when he was incarnated here, was told to be positive in mid 6th.

    I think there is. 6th density is the point of merging of the STS & STO paths

    Key word here being mid.

    (09-23-2011, 06:43 PM)knaumov Wrote: And By the way, my higher self confirmed that he is an STS

    Who is?





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    #36
    09-24-2011, 02:57 PM
    (09-23-2011, 06:43 PM)knaumov Wrote: ............

    you see now according to Ra material there are no negative higher self manifestations ?

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    09-24-2011, 04:13 PM
    (09-24-2011, 02:13 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:
    (09-23-2011, 06:43 PM)knaumov Wrote: And By the way, my higher self confirmed that he is an STS
    Who is?

    It's the entity which responds on pendulum queries, so to say. I've asked if it's my higher self i'm communicating with and than "Are you STS" and both answers were "YES". That was like two years ago, when I was starting with dowsing.

    (09-24-2011, 02:57 PM)unity100 Wrote: you see now according to Ra material there are no negative higher self manifestations ?

    There are contradictory statements and that's definitely confusing.
    37.6 Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. To simplify this concept is our intent. The Higher Self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.

    This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth-density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank of memory of experience, thoughts, and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

    In this way you may see your self, your Higher Self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being.

    70.8 Wrote:Questioner: What I am trying to understand here is more about the Higher Self and its relationship with the mind/body/spirit complex. Does the Higher Self have a sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex that is a separate unit from the mind/body/spirit complex that is, in this case, displaced to negative time/space?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The Higher Self is the entity of mid-sixth-density which, turning back, offers this service to its self.

    The very act of Higher Self service is of STS nature, but it's probably that it's performed at multiple levels.

    Do you now feel the confusion too Wink

    BTW, we better not drift the "Harvest has begun" topic with "Higher Self" clarifications that much . There's already a thread for the Higher Self, which we could use: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3180
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    #38
    09-24-2011, 05:07 PM
    (09-24-2011, 04:13 PM)knaumov Wrote:
    (09-24-2011, 02:57 PM)unity100 Wrote: you see now according to Ra material there are no negative higher self manifestations ?

    There are contradictory statements and that's definitely confusing.
    37.6 Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. To simplify this concept is our intent. The Higher Self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.

    This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth-density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank of memory of experience, thoughts, and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

    In this way you may see your self, your Higher Self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being.

    that is not contradictory. the past self of the entity, is not its future self. if the future self of entity, served itself directly, then this would be sts. however, it helps another manifestation at another point in time.

    Quote:
    70.8 Wrote:Questioner: What I am trying to understand here is more about the Higher Self and its relationship with the mind/body/spirit complex. Does the Higher Self have a sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex that is a separate unit from the mind/body/spirit complex that is, in this case, displaced to negative time/space?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The Higher Self is the entity of mid-sixth-density which, turning back, offers this service to its self.

    The very act of Higher Self service is of STS nature, but it's probably that it's performed at multiple levels.

    Do you now feel the confusion too Wink

    By the way, we better not drift the "Harvest has begun" topic with "Higher Self" clarifications that much . There's already a thread for the Higher Self, which we could use: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3180
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    i dont feel any confusion.

    if you look at it that way, near point infinity when all entities merge again to one central sun, it becomes the final unification and manifestation of all entities. therefore, you can go out on a limb and say that the one central sun that ensues is actually serving its self by radiating to all entities in its own past (itself being a final development of all those entities by the way).




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    #39
    09-24-2011, 05:46 PM
    (09-24-2011, 04:13 PM)knaumov Wrote: It's the entity which responds on pendulum queries, so to say. I've asked if it's my higher self i'm communicating with and than "Are you STS" and both answers were "YES". That was like two years ago, when I was starting with dowsing.

    I personally don't consider dowsing to be absolutely trustworthy, for the simple reason that our energies could influence the direction of the pendulum.

    (09-24-2011, 04:13 PM)knaumov Wrote: There are contradictory statements and that's definitely confusing.

    I see nothing contradictory in what you quoted here.

    (09-24-2011, 04:13 PM)knaumov Wrote:
    37.6 Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. To simplify this concept is our intent. The Higher Self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness.

    Late 6D. Which is after the STS path has been reconciled. So that automatically means the Higher Self cannot be STS.

    (09-24-2011, 04:13 PM)knaumov Wrote: Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The Higher Self is the entity of mid-sixth-density which, turning back, offers this service to its self.

    Whether mid or late 6D, it's still past the point of reconciliation. Ra stated that the STS path will be reconciled by mid-6D. That's the latest there could be STS, and the earliest there could be a Higher Self. So the only possible confusion I see would be whether there could be a slight overlap.

    (09-24-2011, 04:13 PM)knaumov Wrote: The very act of Higher Self service is of STS nature, but it's probably that it's performed at multiple levels.

    ??

    (09-24-2011, 04:13 PM)knaumov Wrote: Do you now feel the confusion too Wink

    I think I see where you are getting confused. Are you confusing the Higher Self serving self with the Service to Self path? Those are 2 different things! If I meditate, I am serving myself. But that doesn't make it an STS-polarizing act. Serving self isn't the same thing as STS. Serving self at the exclusion of serving others, and actually being calloused towards others or even harming or controlling others, in order to serve self, is STS-polarizing. Do you see the difference? In fact Ra stated that an entity must love self, in order to be harvestable STO. Thus, the Higher Self isn't STS.

    (09-24-2011, 04:13 PM)knaumov Wrote: By the way, we better not drift the "Harvest has begun" topic with "Higher Self" clarifications that much . There's already a thread for the Higher Self, which we could use: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3180

    True. Thanks for the link. Please direct any further discussion of the Higher Self to that thread.

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    09-29-2011, 05:25 PM
    here is one more interview with Inelia and she is amazing!

    Part 1/4:

    Part 2/4:

    Part 3/4

    Part 4/4


    reference comes from The Inelia Thread at Project Avalon

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