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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material 48:7

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    08-26-2016, 08:45 PM
    48.7 Questioner: Thank you. I would like to take as an example an entity, at birth, who is roughly high on the seniority list for positive polarization and possible harvestability at the end of this cycle and follow a full cycle of his experience starting before his incarnation— which body is activated, process of becoming incarnate, the activation of the third-density physical body, process as the body moves through this density and is acted upon by catalyst, and then the process of death, and the activation of the various bodies so that we make a full circuit from a point prior to incarnation back around through incarnation and death and back to that position you might say in one cycle of incarnation in this density. Could you do that for me?
    Ra: I am Ra. Your query is most distorted for it assumes that creations are alike. Each mind/body/spirit complex has its own patterns of activation and its own rhythms of awakening. The important thing for harvest is the harmonious balance between the various energy centers of the mind/body/spirit complex. This is to be noted as of relative import. We grasp the thrust of your query and will make a most general answer stressing the unimportance of such arbitrary generalizations.

    The entity, before incarnation, dwells in the appropriate, shall we say, place in time/space. The true color type of this location will be dependent upon the entity’s needs. Those entities, for instance which, being Wanderers, have the green, blue, or indigo true-color core of mind/body/spirit complex will have rested therein.

    Entrance into incarnation requires the investment or activation of the indigo-ray or etheric body for this is the form maker. The young or small physical mind/body/spirit complex has the seven energy centers potentiated before the birthing process. There are also analogs in time/space of these energy centers corresponding to the seven energy centers in each of the seven true-color densities. Thus in the microcosm exists all the experience that is prepared. It is as though the infant contains the universe.

    The patterns of activation of an entity of high seniority will undoubtedly move with some rapidity to the green-ray level which is the springboard to primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self. Having accepted that an harvestable or nearly harvestable entity will be working from this green-ray springboard one may then posit that the experiences in the remainder of the incarnation will be focused upon activation of the primary blue ray of freely given communication, of indigo ray, that of freely shared intelligent energy, and if possible, moving through this gateway, the penetration of violet-ray intelligent infinity. This may be seen to be manifested by a sense of the consecrate or hallowed nature of everyday creations and activities.

    Upon the bodily complex death, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately, upon realization of its state, return to the indigo form-maker body and rest therein until the proper future placement is made.

    Here we have the anomaly of harvest. In harvest the entity will then transfer its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true-color yellow.This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity. After this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will move into indigo body again and be placed in the correct true-color locus in space/time and time/space at which time the healings and learn/teachings necessary shall be completed and further incarnation needs determined.




                         So for Harvest...  all of our "service to others" to 51% or more is only measurable in terms of the yellow ray. Therefore reasoning such as "All is one" does not apply. Wisdom and understanding do not apply, except in terms of the yellow ray: the energy of separation from other. The yellow ray teaches us the lessons of giving to one and taking from another. It is the energy of benevolent dishonesty, and selfless exploitation of others. It is the true-color where "love" is learned. Which I hope to convey to all here, is the intentional and conscious sacrifice for the sake of another where "I" do not benefit to the degree of my labor. It is where I do not "accept what is" but use energy that I might generate from within myself -not from what is happening around me, but just giving that slight edge more of my attention to the question: How may I most be of use to the others I perceive in the situation I ascertain in this moment of awakening?

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    08-26-2016, 09:31 PM
    unconditional love by the self, for the self, other-self, and the earth, for are you not all there is? Heart

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    08-26-2016, 10:08 PM
    Just not the other planets...

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    08-26-2016, 10:12 PM
    start small

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    08-26-2016, 10:15 PM
    see, thats the issue right there, i can spatter words all day long, thought isnt going to heal, love is a misconception,
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    08-27-2016, 02:47 AM (This post was last modified: 08-27-2016, 02:48 AM by APeacefulWarrior.)
    Well, a few thoughts. First, I would honestly and strongly advise you reread the warning Ra gave before answering the question. To take what he said and try to pull absolutes out of it is exactly what he did NOT want the group doing, and almost undoubtedly why he sounded so reluctant to even try to answer the question. Every entity's path is different.

    Also, he really didn't give enough information about the evaluating process for the Harvest to draw too many hard conclusions either. I mean, we're talking about entities who can see our thoughts as clearly as we can see our clothes. There's really no telling how the evaluation works. And since Ra talked about it being common for incarnated entities to strive to move past green ray into blue- and indigo-ray activation, I doubt he would agree with your idea that yellow ray is all that matters.

    While this is my own opinion, my understanding of higher resonances is that there's a reinforcing/redoubling effect at work. An entity which successfully activates indigo ray and is freely sharing intelligent infinity with others would necessarily be reinforcing their tendencies towards love and service to others. The mere act of radiating intelligent infinity is, itself, a service, and has the effect of intensifying "lower" energies in the process - including yellow ray.

    As I gather it, an indgo-activated individual is acting somewhat like a power transformer: they take in the lower energies in the red/orange/yellow spectrums and transmute them into higher-level energies, which they freely share for the benefit of all/one.

    But overall, there is no best way to be of service. The desire, or the drive to be of service is what matters. Whatever form that takes, however you feel compelled to be of service, the only best that matters is what is best for YOU, specifically, in your current slice of spacetime. While it's noble that you want to find ways to be of most service, that ultimately means fixating on outcomes, which both Ra and Q'uo have warned against. Q'uo, especially, hammers on the point that outcomes should be left in the hands of the Creator whenever the topic comes up.

    In other words, do service as you feel the desire to do service. That's really it, and all that is "asked" of you.
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    08-27-2016, 03:05 AM
    I think it's important to be balanced in the primary rays (yellow, blue, green).

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    08-27-2016, 05:10 AM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2018, 08:34 AM by GentleWanderer.)
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    08-27-2016, 05:16 AM
    Ra said something about the primary rays, but having trouble finding exactly what. They said they were important.

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    08-27-2016, 05:34 AM (This post was last modified: 08-27-2016, 05:39 AM by APeacefulWarrior.)
    (08-27-2016, 05:16 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Ra said something about the primary rays, but having trouble finding exactly what. They said they were important.

    Maybe you're thinking of 41.25? Ra calls Red, Yellow, and Blue 'primary' colors there:

    Quote:The red, yellow, and blue rays are primary because they signify activity of a primary nature.

    Red ray is the foundation; orange ray the movement towards yellow ray which is the ray of self-awareness and interaction. Green ray is the movement through various experiences of energy exchanges having to do with compassion and all-forgiving love to the primary blue ray which is the first ray of radiation of self regardless of any actions from another.

    The green-ray entity is ineffectual in the face of blockage from other-selves. The blue-ray entity is a co-Creator. This may perhaps simply be a restatement of previous activity, but if you consider the function of the Logos as representative of the Infinite Creator in effectuating the knowing of the Creator by the Creator you may perhaps see the steps by which this may be accomplished.

    Just as an aside, it occurs to me reading this that the progression would suggest that Indigo is therefore also one of the "transitional" colors.
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    08-27-2016, 10:30 AM
                 
              14.1 Questioner:    …   You said the second density strives towards the third density which is the density of self-consciousness or self-awareness. The striving takes place through higher second-density forms invested by third-density beings. Could you explain what you mean by this?
    Ra: I am Ra. Much as you would put on a vestment, so do your third-density beings invest or clothe some second-density beings with self-awareness ...


             14.2 Questioner:  ... how did the second-density beings on this Earth become so invested?
    ... the simple third-density investment which is the line of spiraling light calling distortion upward from density to density. The process takes longer when there is no investment made by incarnate third-density beings.


    It is, perhaps the investment is our consciousness, which transforms the yellow ray body into green. How can we call it love if there is no awareness of the sacrifice?  If there is identification with the self more than the other/self, where is the "grasping and pointing” of the needle? A giver who is unaware of the act of charity or kindness or generosity, by the fact that there was no sacrifice of self-awareness in the process has performed exceedingly well for third dimensional life. Very few plants, animals or bacteria act in this manner, but it is not an act of love.
    We who are here serving the Harvest must often as we can bring the energy upward from the lower centers, which are interdependent and self-sustaining to another level that is not dependent upon the lower three any longer.

                  57.14 Ra: I am Ra. Consider the polarity of mind/body/spirit complexes. The inner light is that which is your heart of being. Its strength equals your strength of will to seek the light. The position or balanced position of a group intensifies the amount of this will, the amount of awareness of the inner light necessary to attract the instreaming light upward spiraling from the south magnetic pole of being.

    It could be that this is how our green ray center utilizes the yellow, orange and red to springboard into the lessons of wisdom and understanding.

    Thank you everyone for your responses.
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    09-09-2016, 07:46 AM
    That is not quite the energy of the yellow-ray, but slightly describes the energy of a blocked yellow-ray energy center.
    "It is the energy of benevolent dishonesty, and selfless exploitation of others."

    Selfless exploitation of others -- mainly the word "selfless", does not seem to apply to the context of your description of the yellow-ray energy, which implies negative orientation in service. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. "Benevolent dishonesty" seems to suggest there is a good intention....so yes, maybe I'm misunderstanding this.


    "It is the true-color where "love" is learned. Which I hope to convey to all here, is the intentional and conscious sacrifice for the sake of another where "I" do not benefit to the degree of my labor."

    To convey it in words, what might be the result?
    But before this is discussed, we must note that you have given us your own interpretation of the word "love"; an interpretation like many here in this forum, in the past and at present, have interpreted the theme of the Ra Material and have come forth with their own actions and conduct based on their interpretation(s). It seems expected that one will hope to be accurate in their interpretation if they are a student/learner, that is, if they do not think they already are accurate.
    To convey what love is, you may be inviting discussion. We must consider your definition as it appears to us. And we must process it as we are able to, within each our own capacity to digest the content. Then we may fortunately reach your understanding which you had intended to convey initially.
    For us to understand your stance and learn with you, I feel, is a great desire on your part. I wouldn't count myself a stranger to that innocent, lovely desire. For that, our wishes collide.

    What is more important to me now, is that our understandings fuse and ourselves learn what we possess ahead of us to learn together. For this reason, I approach attempting to be careful not to repel with my own message, and attempting to be "universally" understood.

    And now I must compare your interpretation of love to my own, as well as I will go over the other parts of your post.

    The love of which you speak, I would call "martyrdom". Love, as I understand it, is the giving of self....this may be rather difficult to understand for some. So for example, playfully giving someone a nickname and using it [lovingly] would be done out of love. It is that you'd understand the other, not entirely shall I say but to a small extent...that you'd understand where they're willing to tread, where they reside in self, what they see in their view, and where they strain theirself to tip-toe, where they strain their self to make an effort, and then you speak, act, communicate yourself on that level, in that....
    That is what I'd call having love. When you are on their "level", their playing field, when you understand them, and can be with them "there".
    Giving love, would be acting with this ever-growing "field" of understanding as the backdrop of your actions, which themselves only seek to increase this understanding, this love.

    In this density, it is said that we may learn the great lesson of love such that we give *it* (love) freely to others.
    That doesn't sound too bad. What sounds difficult is being able to do it.
    To martyr one's self, while it may have elements of understanding and compassion...I feel it is mixed with other feelings which go unresolved in one's self... Anyway, martyrdom might be an imbalance, an over-activation of the green-ray energy center. Since some other energy centers may be involved in what I think is a mix of feelings which cause the martyrdom, this may explain the need to balance energy centers among each other. For example, the feeling of worthlessness is a distortion indicative of a blocked indigo-ray energy center, and yet someone might interpret that the feelings of worthlessness are tied into an egotistical or manipulative mindset, which Ra has noted are somewhat descriptive of the yellow-ray energy center's blockage (15.12).
    So, I would call what you have called "love" as martyrdom, since I opine love is quite different and believe martyrdom is the word which envelops your definition.

    I will make a second post addressing the other parts of your OP

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    09-09-2016, 10:27 AM
    Edit to add to previous post (highlight to read): (by "collide" I do not mean "conflict", but I meant to express there is an encounter of two things.
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    Quote:  So for Harvest...  all of our "service to others" to 51% or more is only measurable in terms of the yellow ray. Therefore reasoning such as "All is one" does not apply. Wisdom and understanding do not apply, except in terms of the yellow ray: the energy of separation from other. The yellow ray teaches us the lessons of giving to one and taking from another.

    I see where your drawing your conclusion from now. Service-to-others in this the yellow-ray density, in my firm opinion, is not about how far you will sacrifice yourself. ... Though, your experiences in life thus far, the circumstances you've gone through, may have accentuated such thinking.
    Such thinking, in my opinion, is the bane of full and sincere service-to-others.
    It isn't bad to test your will, to strengthen it, but there is the possibility to live in a harsh environment which rejects the self and thus makes it unnecessarily difficult to progress "spiritually". However, no matter what has been chosen, what course you're set to, an experience is granted. In my own life, I was handed suffering while doing my attempt to be a martyr for others. If I look back to it, I can pick up some insights and learn a lot from what had happened, but it is hard to recover it at this point. Experience which destroys your ability to think properly, to sleep right, to understand reality...I cannot see it as being useful. If you wish to be a martyr, I caution you to at least tend to yourself so as not to fall into deterioration. Or else, how else will that task be done?

    But service-to-others, as I've understood it, is a commitment which comes naturally. The percentages of service are almost meaningless. They can be seen as indicators but are "statistical in nature" to use a Ra quote. What of significance would they indicate? What must be shone with your focus is yourself in reflection: your actions, your feelings, your life, your thoughts, your day, your night, your opinions, your judgements, your memories, your thoughts on life, your intents, your goals, your desires, your curiosity, your interests, etc. These are not indicated by percentages, obviously. A lot of what you can gain from these should be solidified into your life. With constant distraction, if you take such a path, little-to-nothing will be cemented. With meditation however...with the desire to meditate on that which is yours....with a community, or friends, who set down experiences as a foundation for yourself, who vivify aspects of yourself, you may progress faster.
    With teachers, with students, with those who are willing to share their experiences and normalize the sharing of experiences...this will help.

    From Ra (19.13):

    Quote:Dealing with the self without other-selves is akin to living without what you would call mirrors. Thus, the self cannot see the fruits of its beingness.
    This is extremely relevant to what I'm talking about. Be aware of yourself. Others shine the light on it so that you see. What you feel about it all, is something you may wish to work with/on.
    I cannot teach you what I don't know. This is what I've learned, and if it's wrong then the course is clear; an inevitable grasp of the mistake is bound to me, and an appropriate, and quite inevitable lesson is in my sight. There would be nothing else hidden in that matter that I could grasp.


    The yellow-ray density: this is it. Every feeling, every thought, which you possess is of third-density. (63.32)
    The energy or vibration which you might say composes your self-awareness is third-density as well; it is the yellow-ray energy.

    The body complex is made of the stuff of the density in which a mind/body/spirit complex inhabits. (30.2)
    Since almost all of us humans are mainly and initially self-aware of....(in other words, experiencing yellow-ray energy)...the orange-ray and red-ray, we have a physical, chemical body.
    To reject those things which are of yourself, is to walk away from acceptance. Life experience may have driven you to do this already. I'll speak generally with the attainment of my own experience. Each of us will have our own reasoning for what we choose to reject and lay focus on, and each of us will have made a decision, be it full of conviction or not, on what we deem is service (if this applies). Like I'm doing now, focusing on elaborating on something which is beginning to digress on your points. (hmm....)



    Quote:Therefore reasoning such as "All is one" does not apply.

    Reasoning such as "all is one".....it depends what is meant.

    To have spoken the phrase not *very* useful to others, in my opinion. It may serve as a mantra for one to repeat or keep in mind in order to enter a trance state, or to access different thoughts/ways of thinking, or access a deeper state of consciousness like many objects of focus might also do. So saying it to others may serve as a reminder.
    It may be a point upon which one may speculate the nature of the universe. So it may be a starting point for discussion on philosophical matters, or even for discussing what Ra might've been thinking or might've experienced, and more.

    But not all selves desire the same service. Not all selves desire the same "type" or orientation of service either.
    But in this density...
    In life, assuming you are allowed choices, you choose among the selection which is your yellow-ray experience.
    You exercise choice upon that which is a result of your self-awareness. To use the phrase "all is one" in reasoning or speech without understanding it, desiring to understand it, or serving oneself or other self as a result of its use, makes it totally impractical.
    To reason that "all is one" may be due to the person in question coming to a finale in their reasoning, a conclusion.
    If it is possible in this density to reason such a statement, what would this reasoning offer? The same message when it was delivered by Ra, was accompanied with quite an interesting perspective on life.

    But in itself, the statement is a mystery. As such, it is as useful to me as is any thing that I have no clue I am unaware of. It remains out of grasp, and thus it is *useless* alone.
    The statement, by itself, does not apply to what we possess immediately ahead of us to do.


    Quote:Wisdom and understanding do not apply, except in terms of the yellow ray: the energy of separation from other.


    1.) Wisdom and understanding are gained by experiences which, for us, approach our self-awareness. So yes, they only apply as they apply in yellow-ray. Everything does, in the same regard. We are in this density.

    2.) The meaning of the phrase which appears after the colon is not clear to me.
    We are certainly not all in one body. So there is other, and "I". There is polarity as result, for a long long time; in densities beyond our own, polarity (positive, negative) exists.
    If you mean that we are all energized in a way that causes us to separate ourselves from each other, generate disharmony and conflict, then I'll say that such a condition is a potential of the yellow-ray energy, not it's essence.
    When the yellow-ray energy center is clear, the entity with such an unblocked, cleared energy center will hope for an other self's peace, joy, and comfort (102.11).
    This implies the energy center is blocked in other circumstances (particularly a social "field" regarding other-selves) such as when an entity is inclined to manipulate others and have power over others; the entity would have a blocked of the yellow-ray energy center in that case. In a more relevant example, an entity with a blocked yellow-ray energy center would be working with "group energies" and could thus drive a group to act bellicose toward another group in feeling that the other group must be dominated (32.2, 41.14) .
    This is not the essence of yellow-ray, but yellow-ray energy is at the heart of these acts as it is said by Ra.



    Quote:It is the true-color where "love" is learned. Which I hope to convey to all here, is the intentional and conscious sacrifice for the sake of another where "I" do not benefit to the degree of my labor. It is where I do not "accept what is" but use energy that I might generate from within myself -not from what is happening around me, but just giving that slight edge more of my attention to the question: How may I most be of use to the others I perceive in the situation I ascertain in this moment of awakening?

    I addressed the first part of this. Time to end my post.

    The energy which you apprehend, whatever it is, can be used however you wish. Your use and experience is what's important.
    Skillful use may be such that one achieves easily what they intended to achieve, but skill doesn't [usually] appear over night.
    A not-so skilled used invites unseen consequences which is natural of course.
    Limiting oneself to small area of expertise enables oneself to more quickly be aware of what less there is to manage. Such is the way for those who neglect much of their experience, knowingly or unknowingly. All in due time. Each experience is appropriate for each entity. There is choice too.

    The energy which you talk about...hmmm, which you say need be used for self-sacrifice in order to learn "love"...
    Yes, act. Experience. If you wish to learn love, it is not solely about self-sacrifice. I mentioned this somewhere, earlier (again, this is my account on it). But if you believe your description truly describes love, then haven't you already learned it?
    To "accept what is" -- I take this to mean that you would do nothing.
    All your energy is generated from within yourself, pretty much. The energy centers, while I'm on this subject, provide their own distinct energy but you may reject this/them; you may accept them also, it's a choice. It falls onto one's way of thinking and capacity to progress out of any baffled flow of energy centers which in such a state will muddy the others, and one's way of thinking/behaving, and thereby close them off; potentially, this could damage the physical body and even cause experiences to repeat again and again, because one's reactions to them do not change. Penetrating energies from one higher center while being stuck in the blocked energy of others accomplishes the same detrimental effect. But again, it lies on what you think, your way of thinking. This fate is in your hands. In some cases, it may be shattered all over the ground, or reduced to a puddle, so to speak. These are hardships.

    But back on topic, energy is generated from yourself even if you focus on what's happening around you. What matters, in that case, is what you get out of that object of focus. If your mind is "turned off" as you sit and watch the world unfold....or even if your thinking is on repeat, that ought to scream "here is the result of your thought/action. This is the energy as it is processed by you."
    Focus on what's happening around you, or do not. The "energy" is your own.

    What you talk about also outlines a strong will, as I interpret it.
    That reminds me of those people who are quite devout in their given religion, who will serve their fellow human as guided by their religious principles.

    Anyways, that's all I have for your post right now. Thanks for starting the thread.

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    09-09-2016, 12:07 PM (This post was last modified: 09-09-2016, 12:15 PM by Aion.)
    I think you have the orange-ray and the yellow-ray mixed up. The orange is the center for the expression of personal power, with and over others as well. Yellow ray pertains specifically to groups and society at large, so has to do with more general relationships in terms of group involvement.

    However, it appears to me Ra suggests that positive polarization actually takes place through an active heart and it is the negative that polarizes through orange-yellow. However, I think these can distort eachother so that even if the heart is active there is no polarization due to lower distortions so I would definitely agree that yellow needs to at least be minimally balance.

    Quote:32.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. I will now continue with the material from day before yesterday. Our subject is how sexual polarity acts as a catalyst in evolution and how to best make use of this catalyst. Going back to that material, I will fill in a few gaps that we possibly don’t understand at this point too well.

    Can you tell me the difference between orange- and yellow-ray activation? I am going to work up from red ray right on through the violet, and we covered red ray, so what’s the difference between orange- and yellow-ray activation?

    Ra: I am Ra. The orange ray is that influence or vibratory pattern wherein the mind/body/spirit expresses its power on an individual basis. Thus power over individuals may be seen to be orange ray. This ray has been quite intense among your peoples on an individual basis. You may see in this ray the treating of other-selves as non-entities, slaves, or chattel, thus giving other-selves no status whatever.

    The yellow ray is a focal and very powerful ray and concerns the entity in relation to, shall we say, groups, societies, or large numbers of mind/body/spirit complexes. This orange — we correct ourselves — this yellow-ray vibration is at the heart of bellicose actions in which one group of entities feel the necessity and right of dominating other groups of entities and bending their wills to the wills of the masters. The negative path, as you would call it, uses a combination of the yellow ray and the orange ray in its polarization patterns.These rays, used in a dedicated fashion, will bring about a contact with intelligent infinity. The usual nature of sexual interaction, if one is yellow or orange in primary vibratory patterns, is one of blockage and then insatiable hunger due to the blockage. When there are two selves vibrating in this area the potential for polarization through the sexual interaction is begun, one entity experiencing the pleasure of humiliation and slavery or bondage, the other experiencing the pleasure of mastery and control over another entity. In this way a sexual energy transfer of a negative polarity is experienced.

    The key to unlocking yellow ray is given here:

    Quote:102.11 Questioner: Now, is there— the two areas then that the instrument can look to for curing this problem… I understand that the yellow-ray blockage problem has completely repaired, shall I say. If this is not correct, could you make suggestions on that, please?

    Ra: I am Ra. Each entity must, in order to completely unblock yellow ray, love all which are in relationship to it, with hope only of the other-selves’ joy, peace, and comfort.

    They also described martyrdom as being a pure expression of compassion but also being the end of opportunity, for it is pure love without need for wisdom.
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    09-09-2016, 01:23 PM (This post was last modified: 09-09-2016, 01:28 PM by unir 1. Edit Reason: removed "the" )
    (09-09-2016, 12:07 PM)Aion Wrote: I think you have the orange-ray and the yellow-ray mixed up. The orange is the center for the expression of personal power, with and over others as well. Yellow ray pertains specifically to groups and society at large, so has to do with more general relationships in terms of group involvement.

    I thought someone might do me a favor and point this out, I've been having difficulty with these two for a long while. And I presume your post is directed to the latter of my two.

    I got the idea that yellow-ray has to do with manipulation of others because of this answer:

    Ra (15.12):

    Quote:The third blockage resembles most closely that which you have called ego. It is the yellow-ray or solar plexus center. Blockages in this center will often manifest as distortions towards power manipulation and other social behaviors concerning those close and those associated with the mind/body/spirit complex. Those with blockages in these first three energy centers, or nexi, will have continuing difficulties in ability to further their seeking of the Law of One.

    I think there is a grammatical error, and Ra listed three things: "power[,] manipulation[,] and other social behaviors..." ("Power manipulation", as a phrase, doesn't make sense to me.)

    Anyways, what you must've noticed is that Ra points out that the blockages manifest as distortions of a nature of social behavior "concerning those close and those associated with the mind/body/spirit complex."


    I have taken "those close" to mean those with whom there is already a relationship (not necessarily a positive-like relationship). This is a major part of my confusion regarding the role of blockage in the orange- and yellow-ray energy centers...considering the context...


    I have taken "those associated with the mind/body/spirit complex" to suggest that any such entity will be met with the distortions of power, manipulation, etc. of an entity who is blocked in the yellow-ray energy center.


    I'd say the yellow-ray energy center doesn't take individuals into account, but rather all individuals in general, as well as one's self in relationship to this new type of consideration. The manipulation, distortions/tendencies towards power, and other social behaviors would then have to do with individuals in general. I can accept this interpretation.

    The part of the quote on which I stated there was a grammatical error, is something I'd rather leave open for interpretation so as to consider what that part of Ra's answer might mean exactly.
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    09-10-2016, 11:10 AM
    Yeah, I am stuck on this equation that has on one side people who are giving so much for the sake of others all around the world, and on the other a small fraction of them who are "harvestable".
    Love certainly does have two meanings in The Material. The second principle, and the dimension. The dimension that we hope to either graduate up to, or step past if we want to get off of the karma wheel of 3D.

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    09-10-2016, 11:34 AM (This post was last modified: 09-10-2016, 11:36 AM by APeacefulWarrior.)
    (09-10-2016, 11:10 AM)herald Wrote: Yeah, I am stuck on this equation that has on one side people who are giving so much for the sake of others all around the world, and on the other a small fraction of them who are "harvestable".

    Harvestability isn't a judgement, it's a state of being. There are certain energetic pre-conditions which must necessarily be met before an entity is capable of existing in a 4D+ environment. It's not a question of fairness or worth. It's as basic and fundamental as the need to learn to walk before one can learn to sprint, or to learn algebra before learning calculus. We're talking unavoidably necessary pre-requisites.

    Likewise, not being Harvestable in one particular cycle is, at worst, really only akin to being "held back" a grade level in school, except this is a school that's happening all the time, eternally. Entities experience 2D until they're ready for 3D. They experience 3D until they're ready for 4D. Etc. It's being overseen and guided over by those who want nothing but the best for each entity they're watching, and want to ensure they're ready for challenges to come before dropping them in the midst of those new challenges.

    And besides, compared to the 4+ billion years everyone has spent making the transition from 2D to 3D, and at least millions more yet to come (we know Ra is on a multi-million year cycle, for example) another 25,000 years is really just a drop in the bucket. It's summer school. Smile
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    09-10-2016, 11:53 AM
    Its just summer school bro, get your beach gear, and kick back enjoy the sunshine. We got nothing to do for eternity bro. Its gonna be awhile! =)
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    09-10-2016, 11:55 AM
    Right.
    No worries here. Its an academic question, that leads to investigating what it is that truly does make "an entity... capable of existing in a 4D+ environment".
    (Summer school must not be working so well if they had to call in graduate students to audit the classes.)
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    09-10-2016, 12:45 PM
    (08-27-2016, 10:30 AM)herald Wrote:              
              14.1 Questioner:    …   You said the second density strives towards the third density which is the density of self-consciousness or self-awareness. The striving takes place through higher second-density forms invested by third-density beings. Could you explain what you mean by this?
    Ra: I am Ra. Much as you would put on a vestment, so do your third-density beings invest or clothe some second-density beings with self-awareness ...


             14.2 Questioner:  ... how did the second-density beings on this Earth become so invested?
    ... the simple third-density investment which is the line of spiraling light calling distortion upward from density to density. The process takes longer when there is no investment made by incarnate third-density beings.


    It is, perhaps the investment is our consciousness, which transforms the yellow ray body into green. How can we call it love if there is no awareness of the sacrifice?  If there is identification with the self more than the other/self, where is the "grasping and pointing” of the needle? A giver who is unaware of the act of charity or kindness or generosity, by the fact that there was no sacrifice of self-awareness in the process has performed exceedingly well for third dimensional life. Very few plants, animals or bacteria act in this manner, but it is not an act of love.
    We who are here serving the Harvest must often as we can bring the energy upward from the lower centers, which are interdependent and self-sustaining to another level that is not dependent upon the lower three any longer.

                  57.14 Ra: I am Ra. Consider the polarity of mind/body/spirit complexes. The inner light is that which is your heart of being. Its strength equals your strength of will to seek the light. The position or balanced position of a group intensifies the amount of this will, the amount of awareness of the inner light necessary to attract the instreaming light upward spiraling from the south magnetic pole of being.

    It could be that this is how our green ray center utilizes the yellow, orange and red to springboard into the lessons of wisdom and understanding.

    Thank you everyone for your responses.

    That you for posting this. It made me rethink a few things in regard to my life. Old patterns vs new, some I discarded may have been more sto relavant than I had thought and perhaps now can be reintegrated.
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    09-10-2016, 12:50 PM
    Well, that's the problem. Many of the changes occurring are either difficult or impossible for us to directly perceive during 3D life, or are occurring in hyperdimensional space. I could say your squeedlyspooch has to grow in, but that doesn't help if neither of us actually knows what a squeedlyspooch is or in what dimension it's located.

    I think that's one reason Ra puts such an emphasis on polarization in his teachings, is that the energy activation involved there is one of the few "external" expressions of the underlying changes which are even sort-of perceivable to an individual in 3D. But polarization is still just one part of the overall changes happening.

    And if by "grad students" you're referring to Wanderers, it's more that they know how to learn completely different lessons from the same classes everyone is taking. Harvest-time is incredibly energetically active and full of catalyst. Higher-density beings know how to use that catalyst to further their own development -and whatever other goals they have- even if they aren't here to learn the exact same lessons as the 3D natives.
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    09-10-2016, 08:01 PM
    It's like drawing a cube on a three dimensional surface. . . We can experience it a little and that little is all we'll have to work with to coalesce what we are into a self in the astral plane.
    "Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow", who have graduated and found it more comfortable to exist in the higher dimensions.

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