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    11-23-2012, 08:10 PM
    Wouldn't it be possible, that even the slightest shift towards more people in higher sub-densities help to shift those in the lower sub-densities? Kind of like an 'isomorphic change'?
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    #152
    11-23-2012, 08:38 PM (This post was last modified: 11-23-2012, 08:38 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
    (11-23-2012, 08:10 PM)rie Wrote: Wouldn't it be possible, that even the slightest shift towards more people in higher sub-densities help to shift those in the lower sub-densities? Kind of like an 'isomorphic change'?

    I dunno. All things are possible at the micro level. So even if we know how it all theoretically worked, there is no reason to believe that our experience of it will be "normal."

    The normal graph has many limitations, and the curve need not look like that at all. But the thing which I found most striking upon pondering it was noticing the possibility of a magnitudinal shift even as the "masses" lag significantly behind.
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    #153
    11-23-2012, 08:49 PM
    (11-23-2012, 08:10 PM)rie Wrote: Wouldn't it be possible, that even the slightest shift towards more people in higher sub-densities help to shift those in the lower sub-densities? Kind of like an 'isomorphic change'?
    What more being 'at' a certain sub-density does is to provide more opportunity to access that particular sub-density, because they are offering yet another expression of that vibration which may resonate more with the unique current conditions of an individual at the prior sub-density.
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    11-23-2012, 09:35 PM
    (11-23-2012, 07:57 PM)Oceania Wrote: lol Christine your av cracks me up

    i dunno what on earth they're babbling about either. i don't think bell curves were in the curriculum when i took Ra

    hehehehehehehe .....thx u...... cracked me up too .....do u think hed appreciate it....hahaha BigSmile

    Ummmmm did u really take Ra or are u screwing with me...hehehe Tongue
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    #155
    11-23-2012, 10:18 PM
    The normal curve could be one way to look at things... but 'Bell Curve' has specific meaning, which is rather controversial re: race & intelligence, etc.,.

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    #156
    11-24-2012, 02:25 AM
    Bell curve, as a term, is controversial?

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    11-24-2012, 04:43 AM
    i dunno the curve looked like a bell.

    yes Christine i took Ra Smile as does everyone who reads LOO

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    #158
    11-24-2012, 04:57 AM (This post was last modified: 11-24-2012, 05:04 AM by reeay.)
    Bell Curve: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

    Normal Curve (or distribution):

    [Image: 325px-Standard_deviation_diagram.svg.png]

    It is called a 'bell curve' but usually referred to as normal distribution... it won't matter so much what you call but the 'study' has taken that phrase to another dimension.

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    11-24-2012, 07:37 AM
    (11-24-2012, 04:43 AM)Oceania Wrote: i dunno the curve looked like a bell.

    yes Christine i took Ra Smile as does everyone who reads LOO

    Blush O ummmmm.....Im a douchebag .......hahahaha Confused

    I was kinda excited .....thinking "AWESOME MAYBE ITS A CLASS FOR DUMMYS , IAM SOOOOO TAKING IT!!!"
    hehehehe BigSmile

    Thanks for clearing that up for me before I started asking around about the Ra classes!! Confused
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    11-24-2012, 08:06 AM
    lol i dunno, i think just reading LOO is a class in itself, along with discussion with friends. Smile its interpretation seems unique to people so we have endless discussions.

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    11-24-2012, 04:01 PM (This post was last modified: 11-24-2012, 04:08 PM by zenmaster.)
    (11-21-2012, 11:52 AM)hogey11 Wrote: But I don't feel it's as cut and dry as we make it.
    Then why do you keep trying to make it cut and dry?

    (11-21-2012, 02:30 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:
    (11-17-2012, 02:15 PM)zenmaster Wrote: My understanding is that more attaining 5SD simply means more opportunity to express "5SD vibratory rates". Because each in that subdensity, in addition to drawing from the vibration as a resource of mind, would be contributing some pioneering aspect of themselves due to their necessary uniqueness.

    In another thread, you said:

    zenmaster Wrote:Suffice to say that an increase in complexity of a m/b/s complex beyond the density barrier corresponds to an increase in available 'degrees of freedom' which is provided by the most basic properties of that new density.

    So... would you agree that what you said here about the densities also applies to the subdensities? Or is it different? If so, how?
    It's the same idea but in the more limited context. Veil still exists due to mind/body complex regardless of vibratory rate. As a resource of mind, only the last subdensity can begin to appreciate the lower subdensities of 3D. Until then, not enough experience has been distilled and the individual's distortions are preventing them from accepting themselves sufficiently.

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    11-24-2012, 06:56 PM (This post was last modified: 11-24-2012, 06:56 PM by hogey11.)
    Quote:Then why do you keep trying to make it cut and dry?

    I don't feel I am. I am considering all possibilities right now, from spaceships on lawns, to alien fungi, to aliens incarnating as humans and changing it from within, to just mere spectators until we get our s*** sorted out ourselves. I said 'cut and dry' in response to these ideas that disclosure could not be attained without interfering with the law of free will; I feel there may be ways around that.

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    #163
    11-25-2012, 10:16 AM
    (11-17-2012, 02:15 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (11-13-2012, 04:24 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:
    (11-12-2012, 09:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote: My understanding is that more attaining 5SD simply means more opportunity to express "5SD vibratory rates". Because each in that subdensity, in addition to drawing from the vibration as a resource of mind, would be contributing some pioneering aspect of themselves due to their necessary uniqueness.

    Yes, but this doesn't quite get at what I am trying to convey. The idea is that when a Wanderer "packs their bags" so to speak, they can only bring so much with them. The thought is that the further back into 3D they go, the less they would be able to bring. In other words, a Wanderer incarnating into 1SD/3D would be much more restricted than one incarnating into 4SD/3D.
    Yes, however the wanderer brings 'everything' regardless of the local polarizing conditions. The wanderer would have less opportunities, statistically, for access and expression with less mass "at" a particular SD (if they incarnated randomly). Also the constraints provided at the lower subdensities are appropriate for those subdensities.

    Also, as a mind-resource construct, all the subdensities were available here past the first cycle.

    (11-13-2012, 04:24 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: The question- and I recognize we probably don't have the answer from the material- is if the incarnation of the Wanderer spans through a transition from one dominant sub-density to the next, are they able to reach back and "grab more stuff" so to speak? Or are they stuck with whatever they packed before their journey for the entire incarnation?
    It's substantially the individual's polarization, not the groups polarization that allows remembering. Society's polarization may provide more opportunities for growth.

    (11-13-2012, 04:24 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:
    Quote:The spiral of development keeps going, although it is difficult and unlikely to make much progress into the lessons of the next subdensity without having use of (having had use of) the corresponding body/mind complex. Also would seem to be difficult without the pioneering efforts of others in the societal complex as there is less to inform experience. However, my understanding is that when opportunity is lacking in society, yet one is accepting responsibility, the imbalance is stands out and aid is made available in some form.

    I wonder what comes after the turquoise vMeme, and if turquoise started 30 years ago, just 20 years after yellow... then why hasn't the next level presented itself yet?
    Coral comes after turquoise, and these are only just emerging. Levels present themselves from the study of distinctly recognizable values and ways of coping. Someone has to make the case for it and this is not an easy thing to do with limited sample size. As you see, not much is even written about turquoise.

    (11-01-2012, 05:00 PM)rie Wrote: So are we collectively ready to let quarantine go and make open contact?
    No.
    Yes!
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