2007.02.11 World Events, Failed STS Coup, Rejoining Time-Lateral

[kdsii]

Some, including myself, think that the resurrection of the pasts' dead ARE this mass population influx, incarnating at time of harvest.
As in, this resurrection may correlate to the population explosion. It's a pretty bug deal, but nothing to worry about as in 'will I make it'.
If you're worried about this, we've talked about it endlessly in these forums, you'll find it all here.

I have really enjoyed studying this material and find much in it that is helpful. However, the idea of "cut-off points" for moving forward doesn't feel right to me, and I've learned that if something doesn't feel right it probably isn't right. The idea reminds me of the the idea prevalent in some churches even today that all who die will lie in the ground until some point in the future when they will be resurrected in their bodies on a particular day.

[caycegal]

Thanks for all the helpful replies.

Please explain: according to this material do 3rd density and 4th density people coexist on the same planet at the same time without being aware of each other, as if they were in alternate realities?

[kdsii]

On some planets, yes. Here, never. 3rd is the highest now and since our time here.
4D-ers can lower vibrations (I believe that's how) to become visible to 3D.
So, there could be simultaneous 3D-4D separated existence, but but here or now.
I think it has to do with this planet's quarantine. We're under a pretty tight seal, it takes a damn good reason for the Confederation to lift this fence.
But, don't stop reading there, I would say. Quarantine doesn't mean that we're all idiots here - this planet is in a very important time, and the intensity of catalyst makes it very unique. It's a pressure cooker-boot camp kind of place. For a reason, as well, this isn't our first try at 3rd density.
But that gets into the far past, that's another topic.

Thanks for all the helpful replies.

Please explain: according to this material do 3rd density and 4th density people coexist on the same planet at the same time without being aware of each other, as if they were in alternate realities?

[Aaron]

Thanks for all the helpful replies.

Please explain: according to this material do 3rd density and 4th density people coexist on the same planet at the same time without being aware of each other, as if they were in alternate realities?

I believe they do...

12.17 Questioner: Is an entity in the fourth density normally invisible to us?

Ra: I am Ra. The use of the word “normal” is one which befuddles the meaning of the question. Let us rephrase for clarity. The fourth density is, by choice, not visible to third density. It is possible for fourth density to be visible. However, it is not the choice of the fourth-density entity to be visible due to the necessity for concentration upon a rather difficult vibrational complex which is the third density you experience.

However, even if you are feeling their presence around you, I think they are living within the fourth density sphere, which is "here" as well, just like all the other densities of earth/Gaia.

[Sagittarius]

I have really enjoyed studying this material and find much in it that is helpful. However, the idea of "cut-off points" for moving forward doesn't feel right to me, and I've learned that if something doesn't feel right it probably isn't right. The idea reminds me of the the idea prevalent in some churches even today that all who die will lie in the ground until some point in the future when they will be resurrected in their bodies on a particular day.

Perhaps it is not the fact there is a cut of point that feels wrong but the negative connotations you associate with it are wrong?

[Monica]

bump...

[Parsons]

This session has always fascinated me... I'm at an impasse on if I can figure out what the significance of rejoining the time lateral and how it relates to harvest/the transition period.

[caycegal]

I have really enjoyed studying this material and find much in it that is helpful. However, the idea of "cut-off points" for moving forward doesn't feel right to me, and I've learned that if something doesn't feel right it probably isn't right. The idea reminds me of the the idea prevalent in some churches even today that all who die will lie in the ground until some point in the future when they will be resurrected in their bodies on a particular day.

Perhaps it is not the fact there is a cut of point that feels wrong but the negative connotations you associate with it are wrong?

A cut-off point implies that we function inside a structure called "time" which is real and valid. However, as Ra (I believe) implies, time is really a "distortion." Therefore, any "cut-off point" would have a limited reality. This is my take on it. As I see it, everything is up for grabs except the ultimate reality of The One.

In this forum we are lovers of philosophy, theology and physics, to a large degree. All of these things are fun to talk about. The ultimate reality, apparently, is beyond the ability of the 3rd level brain/mind to experience, and must be experienced directly at another level.

This is my take on the idea of "cut-off points." They are fun to talk about but ultimately untenable. In the same way, Jane Roberts argues that Jesus was not actually crucified except in the non-physical planes. She also says there are many, many parallel realities. Which ones have "cut-off points"? Which ones have crucifixions?

[xise]

A cuff-off period of 25,000 years for harvests when viewed in other dimensions is probably akin to how we view 60 seconds. If you sit and count 60 seconds, you can see how someone would say that it felt like forever. But in reality, more of us would feel 60 seconds ultimately passes super quick in a life spanning tens of years.

For 4d+ entities, which stay in thier dimensions for a much longer period of time, I don't think they would view one lifetime or a 25000 year cycle of 3d harvest as any lengthy period of time at all.