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    Thread: A Puzzle (at least for me)


    Chett (Offline)

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    #31
    02-04-2010, 01:40 AM
    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The negatively oriented entity will program for maximal separation from and control over all those things and conscious entities which it perceives as being other than the self.
    sooo if the entity actually perceives/accepts 'the one' control is always control of self ... I still need more coffee this morning but this seems to be leading to there being virtually no polarity possible ...
    I think I need to ponder a few more hypotheticals to try out here.

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    #32
    02-04-2010, 02:17 AM (This post was last modified: 02-04-2010, 02:17 AM by Peregrinus.)
    I think there could/should have been a couple commas in there.

    This, I believe, makes it more clear:

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The negatively oriented entity will program for maximal separation from, and control over, all those things and conscious entities which it perceives as being other than the self.

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    #33
    02-04-2010, 02:28 AM
    Quote:The negatively oriented entity will program for maximal separation from
    Would that be like the way people who are wanderers feeling like they don't belong here? their parents are not their parents? etc?

    I guess I better start all over because I don't follow the logic here at all. The way this reads to me once an entity accepts/perceives the 'oneness' all service would be service to self. the only way you could serve other would be if you did not see the other as self. Perhaps this approaches what the Ra was getting at that at some level (I forgot which density) the switch from one polarity to another was actually 'small'.

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    02-04-2010, 02:53 AM (This post was last modified: 02-04-2010, 03:43 AM by Peregrinus.)
    (02-04-2010, 02:28 AM)Chett Wrote: Would that be like the way people who are wanderers feeling like they don't belong here? their parents are not their parents? etc?

    I guess I better start all over because I don't follow the logic here at all. The way this reads to me once an entity accepts/perceives the 'oneness' all service would be service to self. the only way you could serve other would be if you did not see the other as self. Perhaps this approaches what the Ra was getting at that at some level (I forgot which density) the switch from one polarity to another was actually 'small'.

    It means the sts entity will not accept unity and will separate the self from seeing others as beings with rights, thoughts, or feelings. It also means they separate self from God, often worshipping the darkness and those though forms associated with the darkness. Basically it means they learn to see others as nothing, and them self as God. There is no "sanctity of life" to an sts entity. All others beings are disposable and meaningless, objects to control like pawns in a game of chess, for just as you may play a game of chess and lose pawn after pawn with no feeling, that is what the sts entity feels in it's actions on mankind. There are no friends, family, women, children, nothing that is important as the self to the sts entity. Their enjoyment and polarity is gained in actions which bring gain to the self and remove gain from others, and in controlling others. Being a slave owner is a very negatively polarizing action.

    I read somewhere a test for a psychopath. It went something like this:
    Quote:This young lady was at the funeral of her mother when she saw this young man there she had never seen before in her life. She fell totally in love with this young man. Three weeks later she killed her sister. Why?
    Now, for the person that is not a psycho, there is no possible or rational understanding of why she would have killed her sister, but a psycho would know immediately. It was because the young man came to her mother's funeral, so might come to her sister's funeral, where she could see him again.

    This question has been posed to many famous jailed psycho serial killers, and they get the answer right. In the story, this woman has no care for the life of even her sister, and this was a purely sts act.

    In contrast, the sto entity seeks to see others as self, to find unity with all of creation, to serve the self and other selves by bringing joy to others lives. The sto entity finds sanctity in all life and in all things. This statement on sto may not be entirely accurate, for there are many ways to achieve polarity without all of the previously stated specifics. Each lifetime may be the opportunity for gain in positive or negative, as each are seen as a gain, and neither being seen as a loss.

    Most persons have and live their life with both sto and sts actions/intentions, which means they are sitting on the fence, as it were, about making a decision as to which way to go and then working with intent to gain polarity in that direction. Of course, most people never realize there is a decision, and thus continue to remain on the fence lifetime after lifetime, but this is ok. We all learn in our own time in our own way. Polarity is gained over hundreds of lifetimes, not in a few years.

    This is different for wanderers that penetrate the veil though, for they may quickly gain polarity once they understand their choice and work towards that choice. Of course, wanderers are almost exclusively sto oriented, as sts entities will rarely chance losing their polarity due to the veil. (I think Ra said there has been one, yes one, sts wanderer in our history)

    Finally, when you speak of the sts to sto switch, that is sixth density, and it happens because sts is a paradox in that at that level the sts entity becomes aware that all is unity and thus switches to sto. The switch isn't a decision; it comes automatically from wisdom and love being blended and the realization of the paradox. The sixth is when all paradoxes are understood, but not before then.

    I hope my explanations have been helpful.

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    #35
    02-04-2010, 07:57 AM
    Explanations are appreciated. I understand where you are coming from but as much as some parts of the LOO resonate with me the whole polarity thing doesn't 'feel right' or fit. I will mediate on it some the next few days and see if I can manage an understandable explanation of the things that seem 'out of place' to me.

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