The Insidiousness of Fear

[Dtris]

Hello fellow co-creators. As some of you probably saw from my previous thread I recently became sick for a couple weeks. This thread is about that experience as it relates to fear.

When I was sick, I couldn't help but think that I had the rona. Which in turn led to thoughts of wondering if I was going to need to go the hospital or other more extreme reactions which sometimes occur. What I found most baffling at the time is that this fear which came to the fore is not something I was aware of at all before becoming ill. Now I have actually been quite a bit sicker several times with bronchitis. Including multiple fevers as an adult over 104 degrees fahrenheit, coughing until I passed out and fell hitting my head, and being so short of breath I could barely walk around the house.

There wasn't a single time when I was that sick that I feared death, or considered going to a doctor, much less a hospital. Despite how idiotic I know that sounds given the severity of my illnesses in the past.

Yet somehow with a mild fever of 101, some mild congestion and sore throat, and everything tasting odd, I had recurrent thoughts that I may get much more ill and be hospitalized or even die.

In case anyone is unaware, I do not consume mainstream media, I do not watch TV, I do not engage in most social media. Most of my exposure comes thru radio and youtube videos. Yet despite in my case the limited exposure to the fear mongering that has prevailed since the start of the coronavirus contagion, I was still infected. Not just by the rona, which was an annoyingly long cold for the most part, but more importantly by fear. A fear which managed to hide itself in the recesses of my mind. My daily meditation, my daily affirmations, my belief in the strength and power of the body to heal itself, none prevented the infection of fear.

Yet the actual infection by the rona, required a weakening of my own bodily defenses thru subconscious action. The fear was insidious and required no such opening.

IMO and IME fear is the most negative of emotions one can experience. This is an emotion which will occur to everyone in every life. When viewed in proper context it warns against potential danger. When allowed to spiral out of control it twists and contorts the most benign of things into dangers which are lurking.

I have realized there is likely many people who are afraid of various things without any awareness of the fear, or the utility of lack thereof. This fear is the currency of the media, of fiction and news alike. The fear causes separation, causes division, causes isolation. and causes disassociation. It also causes disproportionate responses to situations and circumstances.

When you look around and think the world has become crazy, look a little deeper and you may see the fear that so many are operating from. The real question, is what fears are YOU operating from? How have YOU been infected and are you aware of it?

Perhaps it would behoove everyone to take time to examine themselves and their responses and honestly assess whether they come from fear, or love. When you find the fear in yourself what do you do? Well, the only thing I know is to accept it and transmute it with love. As an infinite being, there is nothing to fear, all will be well, even if it takes awhile.

[Patrick]

Oh yes I have fears of course.

Even just as a poster on this forum I fear that my contribution will only create more confusion and distortions when all I want is to inspire faith and love in other selves.

[Nikki]

Great thread and hope it contributes to many conversations of honestly and experiences. Fear is a hidden program within our physical minds fed since we were born and fed by those who feel they are protecting us. Maybe it is called ego by some which is also a program created by life on this planet and we do a good job ourselves of creating fear through our own thoughts as well. When your mind starts saying over and over - what if - what if - take note. Fear is a belief, a feeling, an emotion, a thought, an idea, and perception of an illusion created by our minds and will fester and grow without our knowledge. Fear affects every aspect of life, physical, spiritually and mentally. Fear is also magnified by experience and situations in our lives. Believe, fear can kill causing confusion in the physical mind leading to insanity and killing others and/or suicide. Fear can cause disease because of its affect on all our systems. It maybe a survival instinct, when used properly can save your life, but when we feed this instinct with lies of a false illusion, we create a monster. It can control small to large groups of people when programmed with tools using beliefs of being attacked by an enemy. We see this truth and off shoots of fear everyday with the panic, fear, conviction of righteousness, separation, lost of trust in self and those we love, give trust outside of ourselves, giving our innate power to an illusional group because of fear of an invisible enemy and go to war with an illusion believing it is truth.

When I was walking the line of death and life, did not feel fear but acceptance. Came back with no fear but was taught how quickly this lower state of vibration is induced into innocence - babies (us). If you do not do this, or this is for your own good, this terrible thing will happen or your rights will be taken away. Many will threaten you with punishment then when obeyed you will receive rewards. This is not to say that all fear caused by our circumstances was intended to create fear but believe it was for your own good, fear teaching fear.

When something does come up where I may feel anxious or some one else will point to fear, I look deep within myself and face it heart to mind. I will sit with it, examine it in love, see myself, and the dark side will come forward to be imbued in light. Never run away from your own fear, accept it, own it, love it and be willing to let it go without conditions. Can one be totally fear free in all circumstances, believe it may be impossible because fear seems to be reignited by either experiences, thoughts of destruction, thoughts of loss but one can prevent the control of your beliefs/ decisions by knowledge of what fear is - an illusion created by mind.

[Sacred Fool]

 
I would add a couple of things.  First, fear can be a physically amplified affair where brain chemicals flood the bloodstream and the symptoms take on a life of their own.  I'm sure everyone knows this, but I'm mentioning it to offer a sense of the limitations of metaphysical thinking under such conditions.

Second--and related--is that fear is a reflexive response to vulnerability, and how one deals with vulnerability can also be a deeply reflexive response.  The skill needed here, of course, is early awareness of the fear response and the ability to cultivate an acceptance of vulnerability as being simply one legitimate element of one's personality and being.

From a spiritual perspective, acceptance of vulnerability is key to accepting higher states of consciousness.  When one walks that so called staircase of light, one concludes one's ascent when feels discomfort.  What might that discomfort be?  It just might be an accentuated feeling of vulnerability and uncertainty, a/k/a, fear.  And so, in meditation, when things become uncertain and one feels vulnerable, this becomes an excellent opportunity to stop, wait and seek the light.

Many years ago, in my youth, I was in a murky lake swimming underwater and twisting round and around.  When I needed air, I could not tell by the shadowy, fractured light beams which way the surface lay.  So, I swam in this direction and then that, but could not find it.  As you can imagine, my immediate response was concern for my longevity.  I remained still for a time, not knowing what to do....and then I begin to float in a direction I had not otherwise suspected.  I then accelerated my pace and happily breached the surface.

When I got to shore I was thoroughly exhausted, but felt okay.  Thenceforth, I never had any fear of swimming alone, in the daytime or at night under a starry sky.  All apprehension about that was physically and emotionally removed.

Even so, when I have blood drawn, my body can go into reflexive fear due to blood loss (which I suspect derives from fatal past life experiences).  More work remains.

  

[Anders]

I've got a new radical idea that fear and free will go together. Because if free will is real then there is always a risk of sooner or later making a catastrophic choice. Ra in the Law of One is very careful about preserving our free will, but notice that Ra also calls free will a part of the Law of Confusion, which to me means veiled information.

At lower stages of development we need to have the sense of free will and completely believe in it, or we would feel like automatic and mechanical robots. Not good. The feeling of free will is a very high level of development and needs to be protected until those "training wheels" can be let go of. And as long as free will remains our experience we will experience fear, at least deep down in our subconscious.

[Sacred Fool]

The feeling of free will is a very high level of development and needs to be protected until those "training wheels" can be let go of. And as long as free will remains our experience we will experience fear, at least deep down in our subconscious.

Are you suggesting that free will is a feeling, not a characteristic of being a portion of the Creatrix?  And that we should abandon this characteristic?  What remains then?  Is not the opposite of free will slavery or mindless passivity?  Moreover, why can one not operate with equipoise rather than in fear?  The idea of attuning one's spiritual path so as to avoid fear strikes me as being enslaved by fear.  Do you regard it otherwise?
  

[jafar]

1. What is Fear?

Fear is like an 'alert' an 'early warning notification' that something which threatened your survivability is happening or might potentially be happening in the future.

2. Manifestation of Fear

There are many, too many too count but herewith some example:
- Fear of danger
- Fear of the dark'
- Fear of death
- Fear of suffering
- Fear of poverty
- Fear of losing wealth / currencies
- Fear of rejection
- Fear of abandonment
- Fear of losing jobs
- Fear of invasion
- Fear of losing attention
- Fear of losing reputation
- Fear of losing a sport match
- Fear of losing a game
- Fear of banned by forum admin
- Fear of not ascending to 4th density
- Fear of God/Deities
- Fear of Superior / Bosses
etc...

3. Who Created The Fear?

Fear NEED TO BE CREATED, we ourselves created the fear that will be experienced by ourselves.
Specifically it is the mind who created the fear by scanning the environment and deduced what is happening now and interpolate what will potentially happened in the future whether there's something that is potentially threatening and need to be presented as 'warning'.

4. Threat To Whom?

This is an intriguing aspect of it, it's related to the 'thing' that you identified yourself with.
It can be a threat to:
- Your physical identity / persona (The persona that you see in the mirror)
- Other physical identity / persona (My friends, my lovers, my children, my parents, my associates etc..)
- Game Identity / Persona (in context of playing games or VR simulation)
- Movie Identity / Persona (especially in horror movies, where the audience is experiencing fear due to potential danger faced by a character inside the movie)
- Abstract social concept (our religion, our ethnicity, our race, our nationality, our territory)
- Abstract entity (my prophet, my god, my deities, my alien etc..)
... and many other things that one identify itself with.

The summary is fear is related to IDENTITY.
Without identification object/thing there will not be any fear that can / need to be created.

5. What to do, when we're troubled by the fear that we ourselves created?

Many options:

1. Just change the channel if you don't like it..


2. Enforce Stillness (similar to #1 above)


3. Enjoy the fear (like in enjoying the horror movies or roller coaster ride)



6. What is the potential benefit of experiencing fear?

1. It can avoid the danger that is happening or potentially happening to the identity that you've identified yourselves with. When appropriate action is being taken.
2. It can act as a trigger to know / experience COURAGE. Through properly addressed fear, courage can be experienced. Without fear courage cannot be found / experienced.
3. It can be used to control others, if one has objective / goal of controlling others that is. By first experiencing the fear yourselves you will have a point of reference on how other would react when given certain stimulus (Threat) thus a mean to control or at least influence other entity's action and emotion through FEAR.

[Anders]

The feeling of free will is a very high level of development and needs to be protected until those "training wheels" can be let go of. And as long as free will remains our experience we will experience fear, at least deep down in our subconscious.

Are you suggesting that free will is a feeling, not a characteristic of being a portion of the Creatrix?  And that we should abandon this characteristic?  What remains then?  Is not the opposite of free will slavery or mindless passivity?  Moreover, why can one not operate with equipoise rather than in fear?  The idea of attuning one's spiritual path so as to avoid fear strikes me as being enslaved by fear.  Do you regard it otherwise?
  

Fear serves a useful purpose in third density, it protects us from dangers, and free will also serves a purpose of making us creators instead of passive observers. If free will was removed without transcending it then it results in a psychological depersonalization disorder. My guess is that when we reach a high enough level of development, a high enough density, then both fear and free will are transcended, where only the serious kind of fear is removed and harmless fears are preserved, such as when watching a scary movie or riding on a rollercoaster.

The mistake in my view that even scientists make is to believe that absence of free will means mechanical causality from the past to the future. Causality is both from the past and the future so when we make choices those are more than the simplistic causality without creativity. A choice also has new information from the future.

I'm convinced that at the most fundamental level of reality there is no choice. We are all the One Infinite Creator without free will. That's why the question "Can God create a rock so heavy that he Himself can't lift?" is a false assumption. God doesn't change. As it says in the Bible: "I the Lord do not change."

[flofrog]

Anders. I like when you speak of the serious kind of fear removed and the harmless fears preserved.

I like also Jafar.s mention of courage as potential benefit of fear. That is one extraordinary pillar of growth in 3D.
As a child I was shy and riddled with fears.

Today, apart from saying some stupid things that would hurt someone, I am practically fearless, but losing a child makes you this way. I think the long process of outgrowing fear is parallel with growing faith.

[Anders]

@flofrog Yes, I was thinking of Ken Wilber's integral transcend and include idea, which is often very helpful I find to prevent a flattening out of our current evolutionary stage and dismissing it too easily. There are values I believe, even in suffering, that need to be preserved.

And yes, I guess you are correct that fears need to be outgrown. Fears are necessary until they can be replaced by higher development. To pretend to be fearless is even dangerous! The fear becomes subconscious, numbed out and from that hidden state tensions build up that repeatedly have to be released through things like conflicts and fits of anger.

[tadeus]

Yet somehow with a mild fever of 101, some mild congestion and sore throat, and everything tasting odd, I had recurrent thoughts that I may get much more ill and be hospitalized or even die.

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IMO and IME fear is the most negative of emotions one can experience. This is an emotion which will occur to everyone in every life. When viewed in proper context it warns against potential danger. When allowed to spiral out of control it twists and contorts the most benign of things into dangers which are lurking.

I have realized there is likely many people who are afraid of various things without any awareness of the fear, or the utility of lack thereof. This fear is the currency of the media, of fiction and news alike. The fear causes separation, causes division, causes isolation. and causes disassociation. It also causes disproportionate responses to situations and circumstances.

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The real question, is what fears are YOU operating from?
How have YOU been infected and are you aware of it?
When you find the fear in yourself what do you do?

This sounds like an heavy infection with fear.
Thank you for your extensive description.

In the beginning phase of this corona epoch there where times i did have queasy feelings when i was forced for shopping.
Then there was a day i did get an infection like you, but i treat it with MMS and it was passing away with only very mild symptoms.
Of course there where doubts and some fear that this infection will escalate, but i was in good trust that my treatment works and it did.

Later on the same happens to my son and he was ill for more than one week, refusing my treatment because he is sceptical about my conviction.
After this week he did take MMS and afterwards the symptoms could be overcome, but he retained a permanent loss of osphresis.
My feelings where are mix of fear and anger about his approach.

Now i have no fear for a new infection, but from the knowledge i think it makes sense to avoid closer contact with vaccinated people.
There is a really big part the own conviction is playing.
Actual something gives me the feeling that it is not my life plan to die at this corona whatever it should be.
I am more afraid by the insanity and fear of the other people and what they are doing.
This could be felt in the mind of the group complex too.

Therefore I am in resonance with this observations and feelings:
June 23, 2021, Intermediate Channeling Circle

Gary: That was illuminating. Thank you, Q'uo. I've got another spontaneous one. In a similar vein, Ra described that the impact of the increasing fourth-density light was such that, for some entities, instead of moving upward into greater collective and green-ray considerations, they experienced something of a regression or reversion, in my paraphrase. That is, they reverted to considerations of self and the orange ray. Ra added that there are many upon our plane in this state at that time. [3]

Can you speak to how that particular input affects the collective soup at this time?

Q’uo: I am Q'uo, and I am aware of the query, my brother. We appreciate the scope of this question as it relates to your present condition, for we find that, in the time since those of Ra offered this perspective, the dynamic at play has increased upon your planet, and even more fourth-density light is becoming available. And thus the condition described by those of Ra increases, both in the positive or beneficial aspects or in the seemingly difficult aspects of individuals reverting to more primal stages of development and perception.

To speak to the effects of this dynamic upon the so-called collective soup of your planetary sphere, we point to what seems to be, to this instrument and to many others, a growing polarization among the collective need to organize, also called the political realm of your society, as well as the ever-present streak among your peoples of fear about the state of your political world or your world in general.

The fear and polarization is not a new dynamic, for we find that it has been present ever since the first forms of government or collective society have existed upon your planet. Yet, as your planet is now more connected and varied in government and society with the addition of this fourth-density energy, we find that it is indeed stronger than ever in the history of your planet. And yet, as we spoke to within the previous query, this creates a certain accentuation so that your peoples, as a collective, may see more clearly that this reversion, which results in greater fear and greater polarization among social perspectives, is an aspect of your society that needs addressed. Though there are many differences in perspective among the many various factions, we find that the awareness of the need and desire to build common ground is also stronger than ever upon your planet.

And so, through this greater impact of fourth-density energy that may create a reversion among individuals and groups to more basic expressions in the lower chakras, the fourth-density energy also offers its light in terms of a shared awareness of what is happening. And through this reversion, as the individual's worldview shrinks and focuses more towards the individual or towards the close tribe, this focus offers its own catalyst that, if inevitably utilized by the individual, the fourth-density nature of this reversion may become clear, more so than in your planet's history. And through such a reversion, the individual may experience somewhat of a death and rebirth, as the catalyst generated by this reversion becomes increasingly harsh and chips away at the individual that experiences the reversion.

The strength of this energy that generates this dynamic is correlated also to the potential for transformation. And thus, you may see that this dynamic described by those of Ra may seem, in a sense, undesirable, it is, in fact, a great opportunity; and though a moment like your present may seem to generate despair, it will ultimately, we believe, result in unprecedented and unexpected transformation of collective will and collective purpose shaped upon the foundation of the love and understanding innate within these fourth-density energies that bombard your planet at this time.

You may, as seekers, open yourselves to this energy and allow it to potentiate your actions and find guidance within it, for this energy or light, as it is filtered through your Logos and your planet, weaves together the intelligences of those beings and your collective, and generates a potential social memory complex to form that you may aid by allowing yourself to place your faith in this process and in this loving and intelligent light that is available at this time.

My way to escape from the fear is to be aware of the nexus of all and to see it as a game that have been my choice to play it.
Fear is no good fellow player.

[Patrick]

...What remains then?  Is not the opposite of free will slavery or mindless passivity?...

Releasing the little will to that of the greater will. The will is still free. When one gives itself as an instrument to the One Infinite Creator, this is not giving the will away. There is no one else to give it to. It is still the same one that now has the will of the instrument. It was always the One Creator. The only thing that changed is the vantage point from which that will now operate that instument.

[Diana]

...What remains then?  Is not the opposite of free will slavery or mindless passivity?...

Releasing the little will to that of the greater will. The will is still free. When one gives itself as an instrument to the One Infinite Creator, this is not giving the will away. There is no one else to give it to. It is still the same one that now has the will of the instrument. It was always the One Creator. The only thing that changed is the vantage point from which that will now operate that instument.

The key issue I have with this concept resides in semantics, which is a personal blockage for sure. I find it too close to dogmatic religious blindness to say I do the will of the Creator, or give myself "as an instrument to the One Infinite Creator."

What I can do—and here is the difference in semantics for me—is to recognize that the nature of this existence is predicated upon an underlying matrix of energy, intelligent energy which is the active, or explicated, component of intelligent infinity. I can accept that this is the milieu within which all life unfolds. To embrace this energetic reality as the most basic building block of this existence is not only sensible, but wise, and ultimately not something one could get around anyway. It is what it is. Within that field of infinite possibilities, going with the flow of the way this field is usable is the path of evolution. Resisting that flow is to become toxic as stagnant water does.

"A person with a “warrior spirit” seeks always to better herself. She does not rest on her laurels. She continues to learn and evolve because it is the nature of our universe to evolve. Change is constant and undeniable; the warrior wastes no time resisting the natural flow of the universe. To stand still is to become toxic, as stagnant waters do."

[Sacred Fool]

...What remains then?  Is not the opposite of free will slavery or mindless passivity?...

Releasing the little will to that of the greater will. The will is still free. When one gives itself as an instrument to the One Infinite Creator, this is not giving the will away. There is no one else to give it to. It is still the same one that now has the will of the instrument. It was always the One Creator. The only thing that changed is the vantage point from which that will now operate that instument.

The key issue I have with this concept resides in semantics, which is a personal blockage for sure. I find it too close to dogmatic religious blindness to say I do the will of the Creator, or give myself "as an instrument to the One Infinite Creator."

 
This is the personal journey of spiritual discovery, is it not?  To find the pathway by which one can put the 3D-operational self into perspective, cut through the mental verbosity and offer what remains of self to exploration of higher consciousness.  In some sense, this is The Choice.  That the choice of polarity, then, is one generalised specification of the initial choice to serve as a voyager into consciousness beyond the obvious wheel spinning of 3D.  And, clearly, we each choose some indivualised variation of such a pathway.  I might add, in keeping with the theme of the thread, that this individualisation can be sculpted in part by fear of one sort or another.
  

[Diana]

This is the personal journey of spiritual discovery, is it not?  To find the pathway by which one can put the 3D-operational self into perspective, cut through the mental verbosity and offer what remains of self to exploration of higher consciousness.  In some sense, this is The Choice.  That the choice of polarity, then, is one generalised specification of the initial choice to serve as a voyager into consciousness beyond the obvious wheel spinning of 3D.  And, clearly, we each choose some indivualised variation of such a pathway.  I might add, in keeping with the theme of the thread, that this individualisation can be sculpted in part by fear of one sort or another.
  

If you imply that I fear dogma, perhaps that is true. I don't see it as fear though, I see it as discernment—but perhaps you meant that as well.

I have a tendency to exist out on the fringes where I can better discern between human constructs and a bigger picture of reality (whatever reality actually means; and, a bigger picture from my current perspective is recognized as a tiny fraction of what is, but at the same time, like a holographic plate, no matter how small a piece is cut off from the original, a fuzzy version of the whole is still present).

Given that we are attempting to explore consciousness with words on a screen, I am not sure what you mean by mental verbosity. What I was attempting to do with my post was offer a different way of seeing things for those who are put off by religions as I am. By the way, if this comes off as defensive, I'm not in the least acting from that standpoint.

That the choice of polarity, then, is one generalised specification of the initial choice to serve as a voyager into consciousness beyond the obvious wheel spinning of 3D.

I'm not sure it works just this one way. One might just decide to be of service to others in a totally 3D fashion without any consciousness exploration at all. Or, at least, conscious exploration of consciousness. Though looking to the Significator of the Mind, one may bring in biases that compel one to proceed from certain points of view inherited and distilled from other experiential realities.

If I understand your statement correctly.

[Patrick]

Diana, I do not see this as meaning that one can claim to be acting in the name of the One Creator. On the contrary, it is very humbling and the idea of making such a claim does not even cross your mind. You do not feel yourself become stronger or larger, you see yourself becoming smaller and more transparent. You remain responsible for everything and all the karma generated.

There is fear related to this asking that needs to be processed before hand, fear of loosing oneself, fear of not being worthy of it, fear of the hardship it could mean, etc... I have tried to make sense of this reality/illusion by turning concepts one way then the other and I found dead ends awaiting around all corners. I grew tired of trying to figure it out.

I feel that not yet having the desire to release the little will is because the entity is still attempting to make sense. You are still having fun playing the game. But I can tell you that giving yourself up to the One does not release you from anything regarding this current incarnation. You do not lose yourself and all the planned lessons are still there and nothing becomes easier right away.

In fact it would seem that it becomes harder. Because if you truly and deeply ask to be the best channel that you can be for the will of the One then you are basically asking for catalysts that will make you properly hollow. This is not comfortable. It can mean a lot of changes. These will test your true desire and if not ready you will probably reject the onslaught of catalysts.

I believe this intent can only be set while incarnated and the real effect it has is on your soulstream in time/space.

[Sacred Fool]

I'm not sure it works just this one way. One might just decide to be of service to others in a totally 3D fashion without any consciousness exploration at all. Or, at least, conscious exploration of consciousness. Though looking to the Significator of the Mind, one may bring in biases that compel one to proceed from certain points of view inherited and distilled from other experiential realities.

None of what I posted above was meant as a response to your personal disposition, I was simply using your sentence to launch into a general statement.
 
 
As to your statement quoted above, by definition, it's not possible to become "harvestable" by only having the first three chakras operational and living within the thrall of 3D. But I agree that one may commit to using 4D light without ever consciously conceiving of it in such technical terms and without exploring higher energy centers.  So, indeed, that would be an amendment to what I said above about committing to consciousness prior to committing to polarity. 

(Ha ha, my statement was highly inflected by own pathway of developement.  Isn't that a surprise?)

 

[Sacred Fool]

I feel that not yet having the desire to release the little will is because the entity is still attempting to make sense. You are still having fun playing the game. But I can tell you that giving yourself up to the One does not release you from anything regarding this current incarnation. You do not lose yourself and all the planned lessons are still there and nothing becomes easier right away.

Yes, the multi-layered nature of self makes the whole darned thing so confusing.  If you alter your perspective you can get a new image of it almost unrelated to the previous one.  I can see how from Ra's perspective in 6D they can say that all the paradoxes are resolved: they can see the whole set up through and through and are not befuddled by how the smaller self feels vs. the bigger self vs. other incarnate selves vs, everything else.

On the other hand we're bouncing around here to learn different lessons from those who are reclining in 6D, as you know.

  

[Diana]

None of what I posted above was meant as a response to your personal disposition, I was simply using your sentence to launch into a general statement.

Cool. I'm all for launching into the unknown with whatever means we can dig up here in 3D.
 

(Ha ha, my statement was highly inflected by own pathway of developement.  Isn't that a surprise?)

I find humor to be a great advantage in navigating reality, and useful state of mind.

On the other hand we're bouncing around here to learn different lessons from those who are reclining in 6D, as you know.

Right. Things can get pretty wonky down here in the trenches.