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    02-28-2016, 04:32 PM (This post was last modified: 02-28-2016, 04:48 PM by 4Dsunrise.)
    This topic is meant for the benefit of LLResearch and other Saturn Confederation Groups here on Terra Firma, and so Corkboard seems like a good place to post. It is offered as a new revising and revamping service. Input and feedback is more than welcome.

    I'm not that connected with LLResearch although I volunteered for a while as a transcriber of taped channel sessions and made a donation in 2010 towards making educational videos on Youtube. 

    I don't know if LLResearch is winding down or winding up. It may be meeting expectations of the people directly involved. 

    However, since this is the age of new energy and anti-establishment ideas ie the Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump Campaigns, I'd like to offer up some rather bold and controversial ideas that may or may not be practical or just doesn't set well with the LLResearch establishment. 

    The term establishment may sound harsh but, as far as I know, LLResearch represents the governing body or institution for our 53 member Confederation here on Earth. If this is the case I'd like to see a more broad and dynamic movement. 

    So, in that vein, I'm going to snub political correctness and go politically progressive (or perhaps radical) here and list a few ideas. 
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    1. Create a Wanderer Solutions Service with qualified therapists and counselors to work as a team to provide counseling services.  Provide an email, chatroom and telephone hotline service.

    a. Does the LLResearch database have members who are in such fields? Could we get their feedback?

    b. Consider R&D ideas that may be useful ie in the thread 
    A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility
    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=12390

    2. Identify and establish Regional Networks in regions within states or countries ie regions in or near Sidney, Australia or NYC or any populous area. Help start a Meet-Up Movement that offers the same service as MeetUp.com but at much less cost. 

    a. Use some ideas from the MeetUp.com model and integrate them on B4.  

    b. Use Twitter hashtags ie #SidneyLOO or #NewYorkLOO, etc that allow people to connect and plan meet-ups. 

    c. Do the same on Facebook with either Regional FB pages or a General Network FB page.

    d. Contact the several Facebook LOO Study Groups and offer this option.

    e. Be more socially interactive and creative on Twitter -- @LLResearch needs to be less preachy and more relevant regarding discussing cultural topics of interest that are relatable to the philosophical and spiritual material of LOO -- #PsychologyLOO, #EnvironmentLOO, #MusicLOO, etc.

    3. Consider re-marketing the LOO books. 

    a. Change the Ra Material to the Venusian Material  -- the name Ra is clearly associated with the masculine Egyptian Sun God, so ask the Venus Group to provide an original name similar to what Hatonn and Latwii have done. This original name can be a sub-title to the Venusian Material. This is a marketing no-brainer to attract the public.

    b. Ask the Venus Group to provide a Q&A session solely about the culture and history of the Venusians in 3D and 4D. There's at least a dozen relevant questions that could be asked which B4 members can help provide. Make this the initial chapter of Book 1. It would also be useful to provide more cultural and historic detail about Mars and Maldek. 
          
    c. Consider using a rewrite reader-friendly version of the Venusian Material offered by people ie Morgan Starr who has a Facebook group focused on this project. Or at least do a lighter editing version by deleting extraneous phrases and also leave out most of the personal references in Book 5. See Parsons cross-out project.

    4. Be open to Academia by doing lectures and Q&A's at colleges and other public forums. Don Elkins gave lectures so this is not unprecedented. 

    a. You're not soliciting or compromising your "purist" and "non-infringing" beliefs. You're just offering a supposedly comprehensive and relevant philosophy to an interested public. Offer discussions at local cafes. libraries or bookstores (if they still exist).

    b. Offer one-on-one interviews with academic people or journalists about the Venusian Material and put them on Youtube. The Huffington Post person was a start but there's room for developing the interview format and Q&A's with other journalists or academics. Invite college students to do interviews.  

    5. Ideas offered by Wanderers who are open to discussing this further on this thread. 
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    03-03-2016, 12:19 AM
    I like idea 2, really like idea 3, and like idea 4 (but can't envision how that could practically work). I really like most of the ideas listed here. I want to emphasize how much I like / support them and list a caveat that is minuscule in comparison to my support:

    I don't like the idea of renaming it to be the "Venusian Material" (idea 3a).  There are two reasons why I don't like like that:

    A) Ra stated that the name Ra most closely resembled the sun itself. So a new name should be related to the sun. At face value I know that may seem trivial, but think it pretty important.

    B) There are current Venusian inhabitants that are definitely not Ra that should not be confused for Ra.

    In general, I do think that having a more descriptive name might be helpful.



    One thing that has been on my mind since shortly after finishing reading the material the first time is passing the baton to the next generation of channelers. That would include forming one or more groups to start conscious channelings with the goal of someday establishing a trance channeling with another 6D entity such as Ra. I think establishing contact with a 6D trance channel is no small feat (unless an entity trains and enters incarnation solely for that purpose), but it's definitely doable. 
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    03-03-2016, 01:16 PM
    These ideas haven't been discussed officially amongst the group, but I can offer my own thoughts and appreciation for the input and desire to help. These are just opinions from where I'm sitting in the Assistant Director seat, and aren't necessarily final statements on anything. But it will hopefully give you an idea of where things are and how your ideas compare.

    Quote:I don't know if LLResearch is winding down or winding up. It may be meeting expectations of the people directly involved.

    A very good indication of what exactly L/L Research is up to is Jim's blog. He not only shares his day-to-day life, including his L/L related tasks, but Gary and I send him a bullet point list of basically everything accomplished in the office on a daily basis. Things have gotten pretty busy for us, and there are a lot of really exciting projects in the works. A new edition of the Law of One, audiobooks, a possible documentary, lots of stuff dug up from the archives to be digitized and shared, new channeling circles, lots of translation work (including a new German satellite center), and many, many more projects (mainly long term).

    There is lots of good stuff being worked on, and it's hard to imagine really adding anything to the mix at the moment. Which is an important point in addressing your suggestions, because as far as the L/L home base goes, we're basically firing on all cylinders. L/L Research runs on a rather limited budget, so incorporating more would require skilled volunteers with a lot of time and desire, and even then it would be stretching us more, because a lot of what we do is volunteer coordination. Incorporating volunteer work into the L/L center can still be a significant task.


    Quote:1. Create a Wanderer Solutions Service with qualified therapists and counselors to work as a team to provide counseling services. Provide an email, chatroom and telephone hotline service.

    a. Does the LLResearch database have members who are in such fields? Could we get their feedback?

    b. Consider R&D ideas that may be useful ie in the thread
    A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility
    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=12390

    This idea sounds neat, and could be pretty beneficial, especially if the volume of wanderers in need increases. Email is feasible, I don't know what a chatroom would entail, and a telephone hotline service is probably impractical without more resources. Unfortunately, there's no real database of professionals like this. There are perhaps friends, but their ability and desire to be that involved might not be there. I think the primary thing this would need is a single very dedicated and trusted volunteer to coordinate it and a team of volunteers to run it.

    Though, as things are now, we fulfill a very similar function. No email to our inbox goes unanswered, and we get plenty of emails from wanderers in need. It is a primary goal of L/L Research to help wanderers, and so we do our best to offer whatever we can, and in my perspective, we do a good job at it.


    Quote:2. Identify and establish Regional Networks in regions within states or countries ie regions in or near Sidney, Australia or NYC or any populous area. Help start a Meet-Up Movement that offers the same service as MeetUp.com but at much less cost.

    One thing that is apparent from our perspective is that wanderers (and LOO students in general) are spread very thin. We already do our best to provide a system to help wanderers meet - both the Seeker Connector and the Bring4th Meet-up forum. Honestly, there simply doesn't seem to be enough seekers interested in the Law of One to have regular meetups.

    There are some regional study groups, but they're independent and we're not sure how often they meet. I do know that at least a couple use meetup.com, though I don't think they focus solely on the Law of One.

    But we have recently set up our very first satellite center in Germany thanks to the strong dedication of volunteer Jochen. To successfully pull something like this off, it really takes a person with as much determination and desire as him, and just like him, we would help anyone who approached us in similar spirit wanting to do something like that. And if the spirit is there, they will likely contact us without us needing to seek them out.


    Quote:a. Use some ideas from the MeetUp.com model and integrate them on B4.

    Not sure what you mean specifically, but I imagine it would take some tech and coding knowledge. The new site that is in the works will have more features than Bring4th, but adding something as sophisticated as a meetup.com system is far beyond our abilities.

    Quote:e. Be more socially interactive and creative on Twitter -- @LLResearch needs to be less preachy and more relevant regarding discussing cultural topics of interest that are relatable to the philosophical and spiritual material of LOO -- #PsychologyLOO, #EnvironmentLOO, #MusicLOO, etc.

    We're pretty happy with using our social media to simply share the message and allowing others to integrate the message into culture as they see fit. It's what we see as the most appropriate use.


    Quote:3. Consider re-marketing the LOO books.

    Check out Jim's blog for information on this very project.

    Quote:a. Change the Ra Material to the Venusian Material -- the name Ra is clearly associated with the masculine Egyptian Sun God, so ask the Venus Group to provide an original name similar to what Hatonn and Latwii have done. This original name can be a sub-title to the Venusian Material. This is a marketing no-brainer to attract the public.

    I strongly disagree. Ra prefaced almost every single response with "I am Ra." They had no qualms using the name Ra despite the culturally-established relation to the Egyptian Sun God. It is how they identify themselves. It is who they are. And the name of the new books is basically already decided.

    Quote:b. Ask the Venus Group to provide a Q&A session solely about the culture and history of the Venusians in 3D and 4D. There's at least a dozen relevant questions that could be asked which B4 members can help provide. Make this the initial chapter of Book 1. It would also be useful to provide more cultural and historic detail about Mars and Maldek.

    Believe me, if there is another contact with Ra or a similar source, there is no shortage of questions we have to ask BigSmile

    Quote:c. Consider using a rewrite reader-friendly version of the Venusian Material offered by people ie Morgan Starr who has a Facebook group focused on this project. Or at least do a lighter editing version by deleting extraneous phrases and also leave out most of the personal references in Book 5. See Parsons cross-out project.

    It is our desire to share Ra's words as Ra gave them. They used the type of grammar and language they did for a very specific reason. They wanted to offer their ideas with as little distortion as possible, and felt that the words they used were the best way to do that. To have humans edit it and cut it up based on our personal interpretation of the material would be adding our personal distortions. It is impossible to rewrite it without doing so. L/L Research first and foremost wants to offer the material as it was and allow seekers to interpret it. Our own personal interpretations are a secondary (or tertiary) goal. If there is one thing we want people to see from the Law of One, it's Ra's words as they were spoken. Any personal opinions or interpretations come far after that.

    Quote:4. Be open to Academia by doing lectures and Q&A's at colleges and other public forums. Don Elkins gave lectures so this is not unprecedented.

    Not sure if any of us are comfortable enough to go down this route at this point, but we do offer ourselves for Q&A's and "lectures" via the podcast on a biweekly basis. Also, the lectures that Don gave were very poorly attended. I doubt anything we did would be different, if podcast audience is any indication.

    Quote:b. Offer one-on-one interviews with academic people or journalists about the Venusian Material and put them on Youtube. The Huffington Post person was a start but there's room for developing the interview format and Q&A's with other journalists or academics. Invite college students to do interviews.

    Typically, an interviewer contacts the person they want to interview, not vice-versa. We don't have much time to go out and seek people who might want to talk to us, but anyone who contacts us likely won't be turned down.


    Hope this helps shed some light on where we are, where I feel we stand on some things. I think all of us here at L/L headquarters are pretty happy with how things are going at the moment, but we're always open to new ideas, and appreciate the effort put forth here.
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    03-03-2016, 01:24 PM (This post was last modified: 03-03-2016, 01:32 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
    (03-03-2016, 12:19 AM)Parsons Wrote: One thing that has been on my mind since shortly after finishing reading the material the first time is passing the baton to the next generation of channelers. That would include forming one or more groups to start conscious channelings with the goal of someday establishing a trance channeling with another 6D entity such as Ra. I think establishing contact with a 6D trance channel is no small feat (unless an entity trains and enters incarnation solely for that purpose), but it's definitely doable. 

    Gary and I are interested in taking up the torch and so long as everything lines up, we will give it our best shot. But this season is still kind of fresh for the channels, and we have to take it one step at a time. Whatever we wend up doing, I think an ultimate goal of another contact like the Ra contact is not necessarily in the forefront of our minds. Believe me, no one would be more excited than us for an opportunity like that, but the original group didn't set out to achieve that sort of contact specifically. They simply wanted to serve in the best way that they could at any present moment, which is what we hope to do as well. If it results in a contact, that's amazing. But a goal like that might not be the best way to serve.

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    03-15-2016, 02:26 PM
    I haven't been here since I wrote this topic. 

    Thanks Parsons and Austin. I was expecting negative push back but glad to see you guys were open to some ideas.

    I knew the name change would be a non-starter but it was worth a try and I still think you could double or triple sales if people knew this was a Venus contact with material about Mars, Maldek, Uranus, etc. They then would benefit from the overall material. What is the name for the Sun in Venus 3D lexicon? Must be some exotic and original sounding name you'd think.

    The marketing success would lead to more interest and address the 'few and far between' issue to some extent. More people means more interest in meet-up groups. More meet-up groups means more grassroots connecting and attracting others to meet-up groups. 

    I will probably do my own version of New Era Development and will pace myself more since I'm getting more interested in Facebook astrology discussions to develop 4D AstroPsychology ideas.

    Thanks again for the feedback.  

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    10-28-2016, 10:17 AM
    From Jim's blog on 10-26-2016

    Quote:Gary and Austin joined me for lunch today, and we talked over how best to work with Zach and Aaron who would like to share the Law of One principles with others via film of some kind. We also considered a trip to visit them in Asheville, NC.

    This sounds promising and wish you the best. Video media seems to be the hottest form of disseminating info in our attention deficient culture. 

    Media savvy academics ie Norman Wildberger from the University of New South Wales in Sidney, Australia has provided an effective format on YouTube for teaching about various principles in mathematics. He's a good soul and I think he's probably a wanderer, but with a determined atheistic and finitist belief system that adheres to his, imo, limited understanding of mathematics and science. 

    I read through the Quo session of 10-15-2016 and, although eloquent as usual, was basically a rehash from 1992 sessions regarding the social and political issues taking place. They always seem to lump us wanderers in the same group as indigenous Earth folks or of the other 3D planetary immigrants and, of course, on a fundamental level we are "all the same". But it's again the usual nonspecific "spread the love" and "go within" message which, in part, is due to the questions asked.

    In regards to the increased polarity question in that session, that's a good sign. Let's get all the shadowy actors and behaviors out in the open and then purge accordingly. 

    The question about mothering the planet is commonly known as environmental stewardship which goes back to the 1960's and having an Earth Day celebration among other New Age efforts.

    My question would be "What new developments are taking place in terms of coordination between Wanderers on the ground and the Confederation?" and "What's the latest vibrational status of the Earth and of the Sun-Earth relationship? -- What's the inner and outer plane status?"

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    10-29-2016, 05:18 AM
    This came to mind for some reason:
    Quote:Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. Between these polarities lies the potential for this random and undirected energy creating a bodily complex analog of what you call the cancerous growth of tissue.

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    02-12-2017, 01:25 PM
    I couldn't access the comment function to Jim's blog so I will make it here.

    From Jim's blog 2-11-2017

    Quote:I have recently begun an intensive study of all of the information that we have on the archetypical mind. In the last month or so I have felt a very strong desire to attempt to put together the information that we got on the archetypes in general and the specifics for the archetypes of the mind so that I can attempt to identify the many facets of each tarot image for the body and for the spirit. Carla used to love to do crossword puzzles. This will be my crossword puzzle, and it will be fun.

    What a great idea to pursue this! I think Jim will add some new insight of meanings and relationships or at least add some holistic perspective that gives a more complete synthesis of how the body-mind-spirit organism or complex interacts internally and externally.   

    The archetypal realm in general underlies or grounds the metaphysical. In terms of astrophilosophy it can also act as an agency of causation because of the dynamic pantheistic and panentheistic play of lila and lovela. 

    What is the difference between lila and lovela? Check

    What is Ra's Theism?
    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=12184

    My take of this agency function, still a work in progress, is summed up as this.
     
    Archetypal causation induces a multiple of concrete causations which manifest as cause-effect relations on multiple levels. It serves as both 1st cause and final cause and allows the efficient causal chains to play out via the 2-stage process of free will wherein the 2 stages are the following: 

    1. alternative possibilities generated by chance
    2. an adequately determined evaluation of the alternatives resulting in a willed decision

    So free will has 2 parts that combine as "free + will", or you can call it "chance + choice" which blends the freeness of indeterminism with the willness of determinism.

    Fundamental archetypes ie infinity (free) and unity (determined) or Yang (creative-free) and Yin (experiential-determined) provide archetypal agency and the emergence of other archetypal forms via morphogenesis which is a practical metaphysical and physical principle derived from archetypal causation. It has been made popular and credible by Rupert Sheldrake and I think will be applied moreso in 4th Density when combined with Larson's Reciprocal System.  

    So lots of exciting and creative work for L/L Research and is very timely for Jim based on his natal chart as transit Pluto conjoins natal Moon and transit Uranus conjoins natal Venus and Mars. Jim's Moon/Venus-Mars is a dynamic Cardinal square which provided much emotional and spiritual support to Carla and the L/L Research cause and is now being archetypally activated and caused to actualize this new creative pursuit. 

    In other words, it's a natural and karmically conscious intent and need that's being acted on.

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    (02-28-2016, 04:32 PM)4Dsunrise Wrote: 1. Create a Wanderer Solutions Service with qualified therapists and counselors to work as a team to provide counseling services.  Provide an email, chatroom and telephone hotline service.

    a. Does the LLResearch database have members who are in such fields? Could we get their feedback?

    b. Consider Research & Development ideas that may be useful ie in the thread 
    A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility
    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=12390

    Would use if such a service existed, even if it's just to provide someone with someone knowledgeable who might be able to help, it'd be nice to reach out for help and be met with compassion and genuine care rather than duty and 'doing my job'.

    That thread personally went a bit over my head in that it was like attempting to re-learn the whole material again, but I think I see the idea of what you're saying and if it's financially possible, I'd say the gamble might be worthy to take if it means finding ways to better help others understand this material without reducing the purity that many seem scared to effect by editing the material.

    Also, perhaps a proofreader for the lawofone.info site so that typo's like 'smoothes' (seen in 5.2, should be 'smooths') can be corrected all in one shot rather than as they're found, as other grammatical errors are present too, while in others areas the capitalization seems uncertain.  Don't really blame anyone though, that is a lot of winding text to analyze lol

    (02-28-2016, 04:32 PM)4Dsunrise Wrote: 2. Identify and establish Regional Networks in regions within states or countries ie regions in or near Sidney, Australia or NYC or any populous area. Help start a Meet-Up Movement that offers the same service as MeetUp.com but at much less cost. 

    a. Use some ideas from the MeetUp.com model and integrate them on B4.  

    b. Use Twitter hashtags ie #SidneyLOO or #NewYorkLOO, etc that allow people to connect and plan meet-ups. 

    c. Do the same on Facebook with either Regional FB pages or a General Network FB page.

    d. Contact the several Facebook LOO Study Groups and offer this option.

    e. Be more socially interactive and creative on Twitter -- @LLResearch needs to be less preachy and more relevant regarding discussing cultural topics of interest that are relatable to the philosophical and spiritual material of LOO -- #PsychologyLOO, #EnvironmentLOO, #MusicLOO, etc.

    Sounds like a decent idea, just need to help L/L gather the funds to get the properties and materials, as well as for travel expenses and the whole dealio.  Maybe we can start a kickstarter and in the process of attempting to garnish donations, spread the word of the Law of One, if it hooks someone's attention obviously it was meant to do so, otherwise if you can't get a person to donate to dying children, you can't get a person to donate to spiritual awareness.  We shouldn't be scared of saying 'hey here's this thing called the Law of One, if you're a spiritual person looking for some answers, maybe this will help you', and then let them do the rounds as everyone else has of discovery, adjustment, dissonance/resonance, acceptance/dismissal.

    If it's not meant for them, they'll figure it out.  As for everyone else, who are we to not bring this information to them if we know if might help them, and have the means to do so?

    The meetup.com model is...financially unfeasible...Maybe a kind of piggybacking like some of the independent groups on free apps/sites like snapchat, kik, twitter, facebook, even a subreddit would work to aid meetup efforts, or maybe a dedicated website in tandem with the new site being worked on that has some posting and mapping features or acts as a 'dedicated meetup forum'?

    Definitely agree, make some hashtags on twitter and try to spread the word.

    I can't say the facebook groups all actually even like L/L, it seems some people enjoy the message and hate the messenger (L/L, not Ra) for their manner of handling the Ra Material.  So imagine their not so joyous surprise when they're reached out in an attempt to unify them all with a dedicated set of meeting up options they had no idea about from a group they don't like.

    Some of those independent study groups are closer to cult's in the making.  If you so much as appear slightly sts you might get ostracized like you're a witch.  I personally quickly fled several of those groups, some of them just aren't a good echo of the principles the Law of One tries to lay out.  A good example of this is the youtuber scott mendelker who however you spell his name.  That guy has some strong opinions that he glues together with the Ra Material in his videos.

    If publicity like that outreaches the passionate openly loving energy's places like this try to incorporate when offering this information, you'll find in the long run more resistance I think.  How can you provide a pure channel if you don't take steps to try and keep it from becoming majorly distorted?  L/L was given the Law of One, they have it copyrighted, it's their responsibility to do with it what they desire to be done with it.  If that means letting it propagate on it's own, that means pretty much in my mind holding onto it and reaping the rewards without much regard for where the rewards come from or how they came about.

    Just seems...A bit mellow of an approach.  But if it's their will.

    I just think this is important information, that is can be of aid to others who might never come across it were no one to bring it to their attention.  I also think the information can be dangerous though, so I see no point in pushing for a faster spread of the information beyond an initial push now and then.  Such as around now, when Trump is in office and many people are searching their souls for answers to why.  This material might be worthwhile in pushing and sharing and advertising around then.  Or around the holidays when many people grow lonely and seek answers that this material might have for them.

    (02-28-2016, 04:32 PM)4Dsunrise Wrote: 3. Consider re-marketing the LOO books. 

    a. Change the Ra Material to the Venusian Material  -- the name Ra is clearly associated with the masculine Egyptian Sun God, so ask the Venus Group to provide an original name similar to what Hatonn and Latwii have done. This original name can be a sub-title to the Venusian Material. This is a marketing no-brainer to attract the public.

    b. Ask the Venus Group to provide a Q&A session solely about the culture and history of the Venusians in 3D and 4D. There's at least a dozen relevant questions that could be asked which B4 members can help provide. Make this the initial chapter of Book 1. It would also be useful to provide more cultural and historic detail about Mars and Maldek. 
          
    c. Consider using a rewrite reader-friendly version of the Venusian Material offered by people ie Morgan Starr who has a Facebook group focused on this project. Or at least do a lighter editing version by deleting extraneous phrases and also leave out most of the personal references in Book 5. See Parsons cross-out project.

    We could just change the entire book to 'The Law of One Material', as I agree the cultural preconceptions of the deity Ra might initially deter people from even considering reading something called 'The Ra Material', but I also think it's a misnomer to call it the Venusian Material, Ra might stem from Venus, but they speak as members of a multiple galaxy spanning community, the Confederation of Planets in Service to the One Infinite Creator, their material isn't purely Venusian influence as much as being offered by Venusians.  Let's keep race out of this, yeah?  lol Tongue Heart

    Can't we ask Quo for this information now?  I wouldn't mind supplementary reading on the history of the solar system, I find it more interesting than modern history and all of it's lies and manipulations...

    I personally believe that right here on b4 should be a forum dedicated to members sharing their interpretations and views of the Law of One, so as to help each other connect and define the different views with have of the same material.  This allows others to more easily slip into finding what works for them in some ways, and while in other ways it allows some others to piggyback lazily on the understandings of others, you can't teach a man to fish by just showing him, you have to participate with him, let him know when to reel in the line, when to pull, when to not pull.

    Just as Parsons has attempted, if others had a dedicated space to motivate them to do so, to know it won't be a wasted effort, I think we'd see several beautiful and unique posts concerning how the Ra Material passages are received.  This could even help us help others who are experiencing severe repercussions of misunderstanding or misinterpreting some passages.  Will allow us to say 'hey it's not a 5D negative entity screwing with you, it's life's catalyst, let us try to help you receive them in a way that won't so badly mess with you.'

    PLUS there's already several pretty decent study guides on the Ra Material if you want a condensed read, as well as a pretty darn good summary of the core concepts of how to live the Law of One in Carla's book Living the Law of One 101: The Choice.

    (02-28-2016, 04:32 PM)4Dsunrise Wrote: 4. Be open to Academia by doing lectures and Q&A's at colleges and other public forums. Don Elkins gave lectures so this is not unprecedented. 

    a. You're not soliciting or compromising your "purist" and "non-infringing" beliefs. You're just offering a supposedly comprehensive and relevant philosophy to an interested public. Offer discussions at local cafes. libraries or bookstores (if they still exist).

    b. Offer one-on-one interviews with academic people or journalists about the Venusian Material and put them on Youtube. The Huffington Post person was a start but there's room for developing the interview format and Q&A's with other journalists or academics. Invite college students to do interviews.

    This would seem like a great idea as long as advertising is done down the correct avenues to make the right people show up.  Imagine a mathematics/accounting major showing up to what he thinks is a 'Law of One' [Price] lecture only to discover talk of aliens and other dimensions lol.  So definitely seems like a good idea IF the people can be gathered to make it a worthwhile time.  I would personally join such lectures ESPECIALLY if meditations similar to the ones Don Elkins was a part of preceding the Contact were to occur to help students tune themselves to channeling.

    (02-28-2016, 04:32 PM)4Dsunrise Wrote: 5. Ideas offered by Wanderers who are open to discussing this further on this thread. 

    I just want to spread the word of the Law of One...  I've considered several ways to do so but I doubt they're feasible.  I just think some form of attempt at getting the material out there would be helpful...  Even if it's youtube advertisement videos showcasing the material, or just someone setting up a table with Law of One study guides to hand out to anyone interested while sitting with a fellow Law of One student geeking out over the material while offering it to anyone curious.

    A simple pamphlet even, something, anything.  Let's spread the love and light even more~

    Some final comments...

    I don't so easily accept that Wanderers are spread far and thin.
    http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
    7.5 billion people.  How many of those are 3D, Wanderers, and 3D/4D Graduates?  I'm sure there are more Wanderers than we're willing to initially believe based on how few of us are 'aware' of being such a type of entity.  I really think if major efforts are taken at spreading the material, and not the business aspect accompanying the material (spreading for the purpose of spreading love and light, rather than advertising to garnish more revenue flow) that the rewards will speak for themselves when this community suddenly booms.

    Has L/L ever considered a contingency plan in case they accidentally spawn a Law of One cult?
    Have you guys ever imagined the Law of One becoming it's own religion in time?

    What's the plan for the future?

    I also think some manner of steps be taken to initiate another contact with Ra, maybe not any time soon, but to attempt to try and make moves to do so, wouldn't it be useful if we could call of Ra again and have them help us with what we currently have?

    I know they say the necessary means needed might not be currently present, but what happens when L/L takes on a few new Wanderers who turn out to be able to channel Ra much like the original group?  Don't we want to be ready for something like that?
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    02-13-2017, 05:19 AM
    I especially like the idea of getting therapists available!

    I have had a lot of therapy with spiritually oriented and evolved therapists, this was probably what helped me the most on my path.
    After years of training and education i started working as a therapist myself recently. I would be willing to offer sessions on a donation basis or for free (if someone cant afford) as time permits.
    I would also be willing to help find someone in the area the specific seeker lives, since i know some therapists in this country.
    I am however in germany and not sure if there are many seekers (from this board) in the country who would need such as service.
    I would find it necessary to have a real person to person contact, not on email, phone or chat (although this might also be helpful).

    And i would absolutely alter nothing in the Ra material, neither name or content nor language. For the teasons already mentioned.
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