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    Thread: Astrology- Various Questions


    Lovelyfaith (Offline)

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    06-20-2016, 03:14 PM
    I've been studying astrology I was wondering, does who we are in our progression have to do with the signs that we choose?

    I understand our astrological signs to be some sort of a tool that we have put in our bag to accomplish what ever it is that we are trying to do here. But I guess I don't understand a few things that I can't seem to find answers for, perhaps you guys have thoughts about this and can give me some ideas.

    Elements- How does this relate to us? I am a fire sign, so what does this mean, if anything? Do we carry the same signs throughout out our incarnations or do we change?

    -I have a hard time with my understanding our true identity in regards to this. I am a pretty typical Leo sun sign with Scorpio rising and Virgo moon. But is this not my true self?? If I was an oversoul and I was putting together my incarnation as a wanderer looking to awaken in this lifetime, why would I not design my personality to be passionately curious and intensely loving? Why do we have so many people here that have personalities that don't necessarily lead one to seek? For instance, my husband is a Capricorn, tends to be more materially focused than me, more balanced and traditional- and honestly as awesome as that is in the physical world, why design a wanderer personality that has a tendency to be less emotional and more monetarily/ status driven? Not that there is anything wrong with that- I hope I am not offending anyone here, I'm just curious why we wouldn't make us all deep thinkers with big hearts?

    -Does our chosen personality correlate to any of our previous lives or biases?

    -Another question: Are there such things as old souls? Or are we all the same 'age'..?

    Thanks, Friends!

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    Jade (Offline)

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    06-20-2016, 04:41 PM
    Astrology is a very intricate art. Not only are there sun, moon, and rising signs, the signs that all the rest of the planets are in factor in to a person's personality as well. Not only that, but dependent upon the time of birth and where the houses overlay, this adds another layer - not to mention, that all of the planets interact in ways that are geometric, and conjunctions, squares, sextiles, etc all factor in as well. So your husband being a Capricorn sun is really only 1/50th of his astrological chart.

    As far as past lives go with astrology, it's often thought that the north/south nodes in the chart correlate to karma and what we have brought over from a past life and intend to work upon in this life.

    For your final question, time is definitely an illusion so technically we are all the same age - however, we are all aware of ourselves at different points in the "timeline". So for instance some people resonate with being a wanderer from fourth density, and some as a wanderer from 6th. It's not so much age as vibrational layering.
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    06-20-2016, 06:45 PM (This post was last modified: 06-20-2016, 08:57 PM by Glow.)
    (06-20-2016, 03:14 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: I've been studying astrology I was wondering, does who we are in our progression have to do with the signs that we choose?  

    I understand our astrological signs to be some sort of a tool that we have put in our bag to accomplish what ever it is that we are trying to do here.  But I guess I don't understand a few things that I can't seem to find answers for, perhaps you guys have thoughts about this and can give me some ideas.

    Elements- How does this relate to us?  I am a fire sign, so what does this mean, if anything?  Do we carry the same signs throughout out our incarnations or do we change?  

    -I have a hard time with my understanding our true identity in regards to this.  I am a pretty typical Leo sun sign with Scorpio rising and Virgo moon.  But is this not my true self??   If I was an oversoul and I was putting together my incarnation as a wanderer looking to awaken in this lifetime, why would I not design my personality to be passionately curious and intensely loving?  Why do we have so many people here that have personalities that don't necessarily lead one to seek?  For instance, my husband is a Capricorn, tends to be more materially focused than me, more balanced and traditional- and honestly as awesome as that is in the physical world, why design a wanderer personality that has a tendency to be less emotional and more monetarily/ status driven?  Not that there is anything wrong with that- I hope I am not offending anyone here, I'm just curious why we wouldn't make us all deep thinkers with big hearts?  

    -Does our chosen personality correlate to any of our previous lives or biases?  

    -Another question: Are there such things as old souls?  Or are we all the same 'age'..?

    Thanks, Friends!
    Totally agree with Jade. I used to think astrology was bunk because I am as you said curious, intensely loving and an empath. My biggest passion is people and what makes them tick. Outgoing and talk to strangers all the time and yes often hug them. Not typical Capricorn.

    Finally had my birth time rectified and oh those other elements showed where the uncapricorny Capricorn came from.
    As to why a wanderer might come in with a chart that doesn't urge them to seek, well my husband is the typical Capricorn. Through his growth and awakening triggered by my awakening his Capricorn characteristics modified by his spirituality bring out a beautiful essence and understanding I would not have seen without him.

    We likely planned the marriage preincarnation to help each other because of the differing traits.
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    06-20-2016, 08:24 PM
    (06-20-2016, 03:14 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: I've been studying astrology I was wondering, does who we are in our progression have to do with the signs that we choose?

    I would think every single thing has to do with that, it is part of the great symbolism that ever surrounds us.

    (06-20-2016, 03:14 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: I understand our astrological signs to be some sort of a tool that we have put in our bag to accomplish what ever it is that we are trying to do here.  But I guess I don't understand a few things that I can't seem to find answers for, perhaps you guys have thoughts about this and can give me some ideas.

    The way I see astrology is that who you in this space is heavily dependent upon the surrounding influences. This planet in itself would be an influence on everything in the space that surrounds it (grows weaker the further away) as everything is interconnected. You yourself are an astral body which has an impact upon others, your parents to me would be in themselves other astral bodies with strong influences upon yourself and your personality.

    (06-20-2016, 03:14 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: Elements- How does this relate to us?  I am a fire sign, so what does this mean, if anything?  Do we carry the same signs throughout out our incarnations or do we change?

    In yourself, you have the potential for every sign and even more than those, there are influences that spread out far and wide within the inter-connection of all things and the astrological study is one of the biggest local influences, which are stronger and more relevant to the experience here. So to me to me your birth chart is in some way an imprint upon your veil of these influences at the moment you were born, which gives you a tendency to be and which requires will to break the patterns.

    (06-20-2016, 03:14 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: -I have a hard time with my understanding our true identity in regards to this.  I am a pretty typical Leo sun sign with Scorpio rising and Virgo moon.  But is this not my true self??   If I was an oversoul and I was putting together my incarnation as a wanderer looking to awaken in this lifetime, why would I not design my personality to be passionately curious and intensely loving?  Why do we have so many people here that have personalities that don't necessarily lead one to seek?  For instance, my husband is a Capricorn, tends to be more materially focused than me, more balanced and traditional- and honestly as awesome as that is in the physical world, why design a wanderer personality that has a tendency to be less emotional and more monetarily/ status driven?  Not that there is anything wrong with that- I hope I am not offending anyone here, I'm just curious why we wouldn't make us all deep thinkers with big hearts?

    For myself, I resonate strongly with my configuration and definitely believe it is something I carefully picked.

    But I do think our true identity is that of infinite potential, so I can see some that would choose a configuration more in alignment with themselves for it to be easier to channel their presence within this space, just as I can see that others could choose a configuration less in alignment with their essence as a mean to explore who and what they are.

    The focuses and lessons we can seek are infinite.

    (06-20-2016, 03:14 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: -Does our chosen personality correlate to any of our previous lives or biases?

    Our current self is a harvest of past experiences, so I do think there should be a correlation but I do think this can also be external to your astrological configuration as the impact of past experiences somewhat transcend our current veil in my view.

    (06-20-2016, 03:14 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: -Another question: Are there such things as old souls?  Or are we all the same 'age'..?

    I do think we are all infinite beings, we no beginning nor ends. Old souls are perhaps a higher degree of experience within this Octave but "old" would be a poor term I think.

    The Thoth tablets describe nicely this concept in the "Key of above and bellow".

    Thoth Wrote:The cycle below is not truly below but only
    different in space and in time.
    The consciousness there is working and
    testing lesser things than those ye are.
    And know, just as ye are working on greater,
    so above ye are those who are also working
    as ye are on yet other laws.
    The difference that exists between the cycles
    is only in ability to work with the Law.
    We, who have being in cycles beyond thee,
    are those who first came forth from the
    Source and have in the passage through
    time-space gained ability to use
    Laws of the Greater that are far beyond
    the conception of man.
    Nothing there is that is really below thee
    but only a different operation of Law.
    Look thee above or look thee below,
    the same shall ye find.
    For all is but part of the Oneness
    that is at the Source of the Law.
    The consciousness below thee is
    part thine own as we are a part of thine.

    I think this means that the cycles are always filled, there is differentiation because that is the point of experience. We all are part of an infinite flow that goes from Octave to Octave, each of us is infinite yet some of us have greater experience/awareness within this one Octave of experience. As we move within densities, we work on greater and greater parts of the Law within this Octave because that is the way the cycles are designed and while we move up, what is above us also does move up just as what is bellow us also does move up. When we leave this Octave, new consciousness emerges from the lower Octave to fill the space and the cycles carry on. The flow never started nor will it ever end, we experience being at different levels because Time is a force with such a purpose, to separate experience.

    (06-20-2016, 03:14 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: Thanks, Friends!

    No problem! just geminying through space and time BigSmile
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    06-30-2016, 06:57 AM
    (06-20-2016, 03:14 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: I've been studying astrology I was wondering, does who we are in our progression have to do with the signs that we choose?

    Do you mean, who we are as physical beings, does that relate to what sign our soul chose to be born as? It probably plays a part.

    Quote:Elements- How does this relate to us?  I am a fire sign, so what does this mean, if anything?  Do we carry the same signs throughout out our incarnations or do we change?  
    I believe a fire sign is more spontaneous, more passionate about things and sometimes lacks control. This might be shown as losing one's temper sometimes, going out spontaneously, being passionate about what you do and who you like. However this can lead to bad decisions in mates, hurting people with one's temper. The goal is to know oneself and moderate one's reactions to situations. I.e. self-control.

    Quote: For instance, my husband is a Capricorn, tends to be more materially focused than me, more balanced and traditional- and honestly as awesome as that is in the physical world, why design a wanderer personality that has a tendency to be less emotional and more monetarily/ status driven?  Not that there is anything wrong with that- I hope I am not offending anyone here, I'm just curious why we wouldn't make us all deep thinkers with big hearts?  

    Because a variety of experiences make a well-rounded soul. Sometimes a soul needs to learn to handle money/resources better, sometimes a soul has to learn to love deeper.

    Quote:-Does our chosen personality correlate to any of our previous lives or biases?  

    Probably. In general, if a person has not learned X in a past life, they will have to learn X sooner or later before they can advance to the next density.

    Quote:-Another question: Are there such things as old souls?  Or are we all the same 'age'..?

    Yes. I know someone who is very kind and loving and will give all of themselves just for the asking. But in this life that gets them into a lot of trouble because of their naivete and lack of balance. I think they are here to learn moderation and adaptability. Their life has been very very hard as reality has slapped them in the face over and over. I think older souls are given/choose the hardest tasks of all.

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