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    10-01-2016, 11:35 PM
    (10-01-2016, 10:43 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I think we are the Creator, deep in it's infinite meditation or inner exploration of itself.

    This may be true, but in order to get where I want - which is freedom within my own mind, and freedom to direct my own energies - I have to remove some very tricky distortions.

    I guess my point is that I see just about everyone, STS or self-proclaimed STO, energizing these distortions in myself and others, whereas liberating forces are few and far between, and usually every bit as nasty.

    I'm not morally judging anybody; I'm just frustrated. This place sucks. Life here is hell.

    And I wish I knew how to get to freedom. It's there, it's possible, and I want it more than anything, but there's so much limitation.

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    10-01-2016, 11:53 PM (This post was last modified: 10-01-2016, 11:54 PM by anagogy.)
    (10-01-2016, 11:35 PM)Mahakali Wrote: And I wish I knew how to get to freedom. It's there, it's possible, and I want it more than anything, but there's so much limitation.

    This world can certainly be rough at times. I feel you on that front. :-/

    What does your ideal reality look like Mahakali? What does 'freedom' look like from your perspective if you don't mind my asking?

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    #33
    10-02-2016, 12:14 AM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2016, 12:14 AM by Mahakali.)
    (10-01-2016, 11:53 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (10-01-2016, 11:35 PM)Mahakali Wrote: And I wish I knew how to get to freedom. It's there, it's possible, and I want it more than anything, but there's so much limitation.

    This world can certainly be rough at times. I feel you on that front. :-/

    What does your ideal reality look like Mahakali? What does 'freedom' look like from your perspective if you don't mind my asking?

    My kundalini, mind, and sexual energy unblocked and the ability to do with them, for myself, what I please.

    I had a lot of natural magickal talent as a kid. The enslavers try to keep it from me. They are trying to tie me up in a full-body suit that prevents magick, which makes me more likely than anything to get violent with them. I feel like it can be fixed, now that I understand the fluid nature of reality... all I have to do is focus on the way it used to feel, which creates that image on the plasmic level, and then it starts coming back.

    I want to be able to worship as I please, direct my energies as I please, access to solitude, and the ability to create my own world on the astral level so that I can achieve salvation.

    My ultimate goal would be to use this life to fill my mind and spirit with as much information (intellectual and emotional) as possible, and to create on the astral level a place to go when I die where I could enjoy myself, and also to enjoy myself in that place while I'm here.

    I remember someone (maybe you) posting about how sometimes, ghosts will end up hallucinating an astral reality after death, with some degree of vibrational overlap between the two, and are even sometimes unreachable.

    Sounds nice, depending on how it's done.

    I wanna reach the higher astral planes of emotional, spiritual, and intellectual fulfillment. I want to create and be free.
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    #34
    10-02-2016, 12:16 AM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2016, 12:17 AM by Mahakali.)
    Barring that, sadistic violence born of a nihilistic contempt for the world sounds nice.

    There isn't a whole lot of in-between for me. I'm an incredibly angry person.

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    10-02-2016, 12:23 AM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2016, 12:24 AM by Mahakali.)
    I really mostly just want to expand my knowledge base and emotional base, share with and receive from others, and then blow my brains out and go to my own place once I've had enough of being here.

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    10-02-2016, 12:29 AM
    (10-02-2016, 12:16 AM)Mahakali Wrote: There isn't a whole lot of in-between for me. I'm an incredibly angry person.

    It's understandable. There are a lot of reasons to feel angry in this world. It can be a challenging thing to look at catalyst that makes your blood boil, and legitimately feel love. I wouldn't fault anyone for not doing it.

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    10-02-2016, 08:48 AM
    This is a self imposed prison or a self imposed learning experience. The way you see things depends upon you. The funniest part is just like minyutar said, You are already manifesting your reality. simple as pancakes. However the problem is that, what your manifesting would be considered the future, and what you choose presently, will then be your "future." Here the secret to manifesting is not just direct will power. It is accomplished and understood through self awareness. Realize and see that yes this is all my doing, I am the one who made that choice. I am quite sorry to say for your sake, that the so called good guys would never use manifesting in the terms that you speak. I am not trying to be rude, but the want to manifest every want at thought, would not be healthy for a lot of people. Also my opinion is that your unhappiness does not stem from lacking "control" in your life. Look outside, look at the sunshine and all the beautiful life. Can you see the creators love? Can you feel its kiss in the wind? The moment is already perfect. Happiness does not rest within materials. It rest within the heart of all.

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    #38
    10-02-2016, 03:40 PM
    I'm reading an Out of Body book, and it says that commands made while out of body have more manifestation power than those made while in physical.
    I believe in the astral that my desires are possible, but it says that the astral is abstract.

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    10-02-2016, 07:42 PM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2016, 07:43 PM by anagogy.)
    (10-02-2016, 03:40 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I'm reading an Out of Body book, and it says that commands made while out of body have more manifestation power than those made while in physical.
    I believe in the astral that my desires are possible, but it says that the astral is abstract.

    There may be some truth to that, but it has more to do with being closer to the deeper mind (subconscious) than it does the fact of being out of body. In our waking daily life, it is almost like we are focusing through an abstraction of consciousness -- what some might term the "outer ego". So when you dissociate from the physical sensory apparatus you naturally come "more into yourself". But this same degree of increased communion with the deeper mind occurs during the hypnagogic and hypnopompic states of consciousness. The astral can be somewhat abstract, but it doesn't have to be. It could be argued that what we experience on the 3rd density physical level is an abstraction of "actual red ray consciousness" (that is to say "actual physicality") which, I assure you, is quite different from how a 3rd density being interprets physicality. In other-words, seeing red ray through the interpretative lens of red ray consciousness is much different than the abstraction of seeing red ray from the interpretive lens of yellow ray identification. 1st density beings see physicality with less distortion than a 3rd density being does. We just see the abstraction of the more native and primal reality.

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    10-02-2016, 08:38 PM
    So can experiences in trance seem as real as the waking world? Or in deep meditation? And will you remember them when you come back?

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    #41
    10-03-2016, 01:32 AM
    (10-02-2016, 08:48 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: This is a self imposed prison or a self imposed learning experience. The way you see things depends upon you. The funniest part is just like minyutar said, You are already manifesting your reality. simple as pancakes. However the problem is that, what your manifesting would be considered the future, and what you choose presently, will then be your "future." Here the secret to manifesting is not just direct will power. It is accomplished and understood through self awareness. Realize and see that yes this is all my doing, I am the one who made that choice. I am quite sorry to say for your sake, that the so called good guys would never use manifesting in the terms that you speak. I am not trying to be rude, but the want to manifest every want at thought, would not be healthy for a lot of people. Also my opinion is that your unhappiness does not stem from lacking "control" in your life. Look outside, look at the sunshine and all the beautiful life. Can you see the creators love? Can you feel its kiss in the wind? The moment is already perfect. Happiness does not rest within materials. It rest within the heart of all.

    I always burn pancakes.

    If the prison is self-imposed, then why are there guards and a giant fence to keep you from getting out? I should be able to choose something else if this is only making me worse. This planet is almost exclusively not a positively-oriented one, I think.

    So if the good guys aren't trying to make life more enjoyable for all, what exactly ARE they trying to do?

    (10-02-2016, 07:42 PM)anagogy Wrote: There may be some truth to that, but it has more to do with being closer to the deeper mind (subconscious) than it does the fact of being out of body. In our waking daily life, it is almost like we are focusing through an abstraction of consciousness -- what some might term the "outer ego". So when you dissociate from the physical sensory apparatus you naturally come "more into yourself". But this same degree of increased communion with the deeper mind occurs during the hypnagogic and hypnopompic states of consciousness. The astral can be somewhat abstract, but it doesn't have to be. It could be argued that what we experience on the 3rd density physical level is an abstraction of "actual red ray consciousness" (that is to say "actual physicality") which, I assure you, is quite different from how a 3rd density being interprets physicality. In other-words, seeing red ray through the interpretative lens of red ray consciousness is much different than the abstraction of seeing red ray from the interpretive lens of yellow ray identification. 1st density beings see physicality with less distortion than a 3rd density being does. We just see the abstraction of the more native and primal reality.

    Do you think that the soul creates the physical body, or that the physical body creates the brain?

    When we go "out-of-body", are we really going out of body, or are we projecting something outwards from our brain?

    Is the subconscious a physical part of the brain, or is it something else that is simply connected to certain parts the brain, and has its primary existence elsewhere?

    (10-02-2016, 08:38 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: So can experiences in trance seem as real as the waking world? Or in deep meditation? And will you remember them when you come back?

    They can, but only with practice. Lucid dreaming is a thing, too. Dream diary will get you there (because you have to learn how to remember first).

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    10-03-2016, 01:39 AM
    I read that 1/2 the brain can be removed and it won't affect memories. So memories are stored in a field of sorts. Like consciousness.

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    10-03-2016, 01:44 AM
    (10-03-2016, 01:39 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I read that 1/2 the brain can be removed and it won't affect memories. So memories are stored in a field of sorts. Like consciousness.

    Yes, but which side is dominant?

    If someone cuts half your brain out, can you regrow it based on the consciousness it was attached to (the "higher bodies")? Young children can apparently do this with fingers.

    Or does the brain create the higher bodies?

    Does the willpower stem from consciousness itself, or from the physical body?

    Does the body create consciousness, or the other way around?

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    10-03-2016, 02:01 AM
    We don't know whether matter or consciousness is more fundamental.

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    10-03-2016, 03:31 AM
    (10-03-2016, 02:01 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: We don't know whether matter or consciousness is more fundamental.

    I don't think they're two separate things. And especially considering that entities can remember their consciousness after blowing up their entire planet and dissolving their mind-body-spirit complexes with a nuclear bomb and being unreachable for millennia, things do not look so bleak for me, considering that I can still open up my chakras.

    I just wish I knew which steps to take in my own personal situation.

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    10-03-2016, 09:53 AM (This post was last modified: 10-03-2016, 09:54 AM by anagogy.)
    (10-02-2016, 08:38 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: So can experiences in trance seem as real as the waking world? Or in deep meditation? And will you remember them when you come back?

    Under certain conditions, yes.

    (10-03-2016, 01:32 AM)Mahakali Wrote: Do you think that the soul creates the physical body, or that the physical body creates the brain?

    When we go "out-of-body", are we really going out of body, or are we projecting something outwards from our brain?

    Is the subconscious a physical part of the brain, or is it something else that is simply connected to certain parts the brain, and has its primary existence elsewhere?

    The only thing that is "real" from my perspective, is consciousness. Everything else, is an abstraction of that. Hence all that is physical is simply a virtualization of processes in consciousness.

    (10-02-2016, 08:38 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: We don't know whether matter or consciousness is more fundamental.

    We have more evidence that consciousness is more fundamental, despite what materialist ideologues have brainwashed people to believe (and make no mistake, materialism *IS* their religion). You have never had an experience outside of consciousness. You can only ever observe physicality from the lens of consciousness, and the failure of scientists to figure out how precisely consciousness is generated by the brain as some kind of epiphenomonon of physical interaction is simply because it is not generated by the brain.

    If anyone cared to objectively think about it, in a serious manner, they would see, with perfect clarity, that it assumes far less, and explains far more, than materialism ever has. It is a more parsimonious explanation, even in regards to Occam's razor.
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