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    04-15-2017, 10:54 PM
    https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-stud...-memories/

    Pretty excited a university is so openly considering this.
    It must be getting much more common if a university in the western world is taking notice.
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    04-16-2017, 12:27 AM
    Why can they recall past life memories?? Are they not as veiled being dual activated?

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    04-16-2017, 07:54 AM
    (04-16-2017, 12:27 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Why can they recall past life memories?? Are they not as veiled being dual activated?

    Correct. Dual-bodied people have less of the forgetting. Those with dual bodies have harvested third density and graduated and have been allowed the privilege to begin early 4D work.

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    04-16-2017, 09:51 AM
    Apparently when we come in we've always had people that knew this wasn't their whole storey but it seems they are remembering incredible detail now, I'm not sure these are dual bodied because they still forget it all by age 7. Wouldny the dual bodies not forget after? Seems we are getting closer though at least. The veil is less heavy for them.

    I as a toddler new my mom wasn't my mom.
    If I'd fall or cry for mom I remember always thinking "no not you my other Mom" when she picked me up. I used to always stand at the window and think.
    I want to go home, knowing this wasn't home but certainly didn't know where home was.

    Alternatively the young ones now

    One of my clients had a 6 year old girl for a student who remembered her life in Hungary during the Second World War. She new all the leaders and the types of planes and apparently even talked like a little old lady.

    Would the planet moving into 4th effect the veil?

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    04-16-2017, 11:34 PM
    (04-15-2017, 10:54 PM)Glow Wrote: https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-stud...-memories/

    Pretty excited a university is so openly considering this.
    It must be getting much more common if a university in the western world is taking notice.

    Wow! Thank you for sharing this. I was quite amazed seeing this on a traditional university's website. A big part of my personal catalyst in life, especially lately, is reconciling that this part of my life and belief system that would be considered "paranormal" and trying to live within a society that basically ridicules all of it. It is always a bit comforting for me to see these issues approached with an open mind by mainstream sources.

    The article prompted me to look into the division of the school. It is University of Virginia School of Medicine's Division of Perceptual Studies. I was amazed again when I read the description of the division: https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/

    Quote:Founded in 1967 by Dr. Ian Stevenson, the Division of Perceptual Studies (DOPS) is the oldest and most productive university-based research group in the world devoted exclusively to the investigation of phenomena that challenge current physicalist brain/mind orthodoxy – including investigation of phenomena directly suggestive of post-mortem survival of consciousness.

    Through its research, DOPS strives to challenge this entrenched mainstream view by rigorously evaluating empirical evidence suggesting that consciousness survives death and that mind and brain are distinct and separable.

    As we expand our leading edge research, we believe mainstream academia will become more accepting of survival psi and that science will enlarge to take on new challenges in studying the nature on consciousness and its interaction with the physical world.

    Simply put, our goal is to expand the current paradigm, because we believe that recognition of consciousness as something greater than a physically produced phenomenon is both more optimistic and more accurate than the prevailing materialist worldview.

    It's so cool to see something like this. Children who remember past lives is one of their primary areas of interest, which is why that article is written so "matter of factly." They also seem to explore Near-Death Experiences, "Neuroimaging – Studies of Psi," and Altered States of Consciousness, and more.

    They even have a page which lists books on reincarnation written by their faculty, along with tons of academic information on these subjects on their website. This is sort of a goldmine! Very excited to read through it.

    It's likely they've been researching children with past-life memories for quite some time now, but it is still cool to finally find this mainstream oasis.
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    04-17-2017, 10:08 PM
    Anybody interested in the phenomenon of children allegedly recalling past lives should look into the work of Ian Stevenson.

    http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/...enson.html
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    04-18-2017, 02:38 AM
    Wow! This is awesome! I can imagine that Don is smiling in heaven when seeing research like this becoming more "mainstream ". Smile
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    04-18-2017, 04:50 AM (This post was last modified: 04-18-2017, 05:48 AM by Dekalb_Blues.)
    (04-15-2017, 10:54 PM)Glow Wrote: https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-stud...-memories/
    Pretty excited a university is so openly considering this.
    It must be getting much more common if a university in the western world is taking notice.

    [Image: mechanism_of_reincarnation.jpg]  E-Z Do-It-Yourself Rebirth Guide (referred to in the Pink Floyd tune, "Watch That De-Palestration, Eugene"

    "Der Wahrheit ist allerzeit nur ein kurzes Siegesfest beschieden, zwischen den beiden langen Zeiträumen, wo sie als Paradox verdammt und als Trivial gering geschätzt wird. [The truth is always destined to have only one brief victory parade between two long time spans in which it's first condemned as paradoxical, and then belittled as trivial.]" -- Arthur Schopenhauer (German philosopher, 1788 – 1860), from his Die Welt als Wille und Vorstellung [The World as Will and Representation](1818).

    What you're seeing here is at the U. of Va. is actually part of the sneaky process Schopenhauer so grumpily pointed out 199 years ago as being deployed by the busybody intelligentsia, and could be considered as the beginning of his  "trivialization-through-belittlement" phase. The hyper-rationalist materialists of Academia, acolytes of the Great Scientismic God Positivismus Maximus,* find to their annoyance that they must perforce confront a no-longer-deniable phenomenon that will not civilly go away of its own accord, so they must needs exert their word-magic upon it so as to make of it a rationally categorizable thing of minor importance (a mere psychoneurological glitch in the otherwise apple-pie-order proceedings of physics as per the modern non-God-haunted paradigm of reality) that must be noted only so that it may be appropriately named, and named precisely so that it may be officially dismissed as old hat. Thus neatly side-stepping the phase in which it needs to be addressed seriously as a reality with certain implications tending to undermine the power structure status quo. Which God forbid. Meanwhile, of course, it seems like only yesterday it was totally beyond the pale, and a sure sign of imbecility, if not actual lunacy, to even countenance the thing at all.**

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    Take, for example: "Persons considering hypnotic regression experiments should ask themselves: What benefit would there be for me in coping with my present difficulties if I did remember something that seemed somehow connected with them from a previous life? Would such a memory, even if it were real, remove the difficulties? This being a brief statement, it cannot do justice to all the complex aspects of the subject, but I will mention that very rarely something of value may emerge during experiments with hypnotic regression to 'previous lives.'" (from Hypnotic Regression to Previous Lives: A Short Statement by Ian Stevenson, M.D. -- linked to in the page cited by Glow)
    Those of us who have experienced through QHHT (http://www.dolorescannon.com/about-qhht) or through any number of other avenues (for example, http://www.lawofone.info/, to cite a really far-out and obviously lunatic-fringe one) the simple, self-evident everyday reality and validity of the deeper (and officially "disapproved") dimensions of our human psyches tend to view the comical paradigm-saving scramblings of the academically learned but experientially clueless ones with compassion. Imagine having your life, professional and personal, utterly staked on the utter needfulness for rabid skeptical debunking of anything and anybody whatsoever even threatening to tend to disprove an ultimate, desolate reality of a chaotic vacuum of senselessly swirling nothingness-based particles endlessly permuting into random patterns such that they pointlessly trick one's randomly-arrived-at-and-only-robotic lifeform's automatic-reflex perceptions into seeming to experience anything at all, much less real consciousness with real free will.


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    ** In the world of intelligence and espionage, it's done a little more pro-actively: disinformation is fed to all and sundry right out of the gate when some palpable grand deception is being launched, so that the pesky truth that cannot be hidden is fatally contaminated by association with lies of omission and commission -- thus imbuing said undeniable truth with a germ of spurious reasonable doubt, all in the service of plausible deniability. If it's done right, nobody know just what the hell to definitively think about anything anymore, no matter how seemingly self-evident, even the nose on their face, if there's a chance that in so doing they might appear foolishly gullible or even slightly un-hip, or run afoul of Friendly Fascism as delivered by the appropriate local Social Justice Warrior brownshirts. Much better to simply Go Along with what The Experts say! After all, one is then only Unquestioningly Obeying Authority. And what possible downside could there be to that?  See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials



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    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...#pid206933
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    04-18-2017, 01:53 PM
    (04-18-2017, 04:50 AM)Dekalb_Blues Wrote: What you're seeing here is at the U. of Va. is actually part of the sneaky process Schopenhauer so grumpily pointed out 199 years ago as being deployed by the busybody intelligentsia, and could be considered as the beginning of his  "trivialization-through-belittlement" phase. The hyper-rationalist materialists of Academia, acolytes of the Great Scientismic God Positivismus Maximus,* find to their annoyance that they must perforce confront a no-longer-deniable phenomenon that will not civilly go away of its own accord, so they must needs exert their word-magic upon it so as to make of it a rationally categorizable thing of minor importance (a mere psychoneurological glitch in the otherwise apple-pie-order proceedings of physics as per the modern non-God-haunted paradigm of reality) that must be noted only so that it may be appropriately named, and named precisely so that it may be officially dismissed as old hat. Thus neatly side-stepping the phase in which it needs to be addressed seriously as a reality with certain implications tending to undermine the power structure status quo. Which God forbid. Meanwhile, of course, it seems like only yesterday it was totally beyond the pale, and a sure sign of imbecility, if not actual lunacy, to even countenance the thing at all.**

    This is not at all the sense I got looking through their work both on that website and the faculty's published books. In fact, I think it's a gross mis-characterization of their studies and the way they frame their mission.

    Can you explain why you believe this? Besides that they have views of hypnotic regression that are not in alignment with yours. I certainly don't agree with their take on hypnotic regression, but disagreeing on one point doesn't seem like a decent reason to completely dismiss someone's work. Is there anything else that leads you to this conclusion?
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    04-24-2017, 05:11 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2017, 12:27 AM by Dekalb_Blues.)
    Bring4th_Austin Wrote:
    Dekalb_Blues Wrote:[Blah-blah-blah & so on & so forth, Amen]

    This is not at all the sense I got looking through their work both on that website and the faculty's published books. In fact, I think it's a gross mis-characterization of their studies and the way they frame their mission.

    Can you explain why you believe this? Besides that they have views of hypnotic regression that are not in alignment with yours. I certainly don't agree with their take on hypnotic regression, but disagreeing on one point doesn't seem like a decent reason to completely dismiss someone's work. Is there anything else that leads you to this conclusion?

    "Pastern: The knee of a horse."   --  Incorrect definition given by Dr. Samuel Johnson in his Dictionary of the English Language (1755). When asked post-publication by a certain horsey-set Lady how he came to make such a flagrant mistake, his biographer Boswell tells us he quite forthrightly replied: “Ignorance, Madam, pure ignorance.”

    Yes, Austin, I see that my cynical, jaded contention was perhaps a bit too harsh on U. of Va., which is actually shooting well above par in the paradigm-change due-diligence game (though perhaps they are the exception that proves the rule).* You'd have to know that... [checks http://madtbone.tripod.com/misc.html for something legitimate-sounding] uh, my train of thought was distracted whilst writing the post in question by an irate ex-wife who's dunning me for emotional reparations for perceived slights I gave her in now-anciently-bygone peccadillos of yesteryear. Yeah, that's it.

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    Otherwise I would have carried on at greater length and easily substantiated my open-and-shut case about the predictably disinformational dimension of that well-known sociology-of-knowledge phenomenon furor academicus, in a veritable apocalyptical avalanche of ungainsayably weighty evidentiary detail, elegantly running rings logically around all futile oppositional delusions born of callow naïveté about how this wicked world works. Mwah-ha-haaa!! However, I'm too shagged out just now from crime-fighting and helping little old ladies cross the street to prosecute my case, so I'll graciously plead nolle prosequi and allow sweetness and light to once again reign untrammeled.
    Incidentally, I find it sobering to realize that though in my own callow but energetic youth I could effortlessly grossly mischaracterize at least half a dozen actually worthy efforts each morning before breakfast (omitting no devilishly sophistic trick regardless of its under-handedness [http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...7#pid83937]), I now find it tiring to commit even one or two such outrages in a whole day's trying. Oh well. Thus passes the glory of the world; time flies; remember Death; 'twas ever thus; No Irish Need Apply; Objects In Mirror Closer Than They Appear. How true this is.

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    Various apropos works previously sighted but not previously cited, due to sheer intellectual laziness:



    Our Fear of Psychic Phenomena
    http://imhu.org/fear-psychic-phenomena/

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    The Archives of Scientists' Transcendent Experiences website
    http://issc-taste.org/main/introduction.shtml

    [Image: paradigm-and-novelty-n.jpg]

    The Unbearable Fear of Psi:
    On Scientific Suppression in the 21st
    Century
    ETZEL C
    ARDEÑA
    Lund University, Lund, Sweden

    Journal of Scientifc Exploration, Vol. 29, No. 4, pp. 601–620, 2015 
    http://windbridge.org/papers/unbearable.pdf

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    On Wolverines and Epistemological Totalitarianism
    By Cardena, Etzel
    Journal of Scientifc Exploration, Vol 25, No 3, pp. 539–551, 2011
    https://www.scientificexploration.org/do...torial.pdf



    The Faustian Face of Modern Science: Understanding the Epistemological Foundations of Scientific Totalitarianism
    by Phillip D. Collins, June 11th, 2009
    http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/06...tarianism/

    Don’t Let Fear of Other Academics Control Your Academic Career
    Article from the Academic Ladder newsletter
    http://academicladder.com/dont-let-fear-...mic-career

    Debunking The Ra Material
    (mostly various assorted rationalist materialist positivist-scientismic super-geniuses)
    The Skeptics Society Forum < General Subjects < Brain, Mind, & Consciousness
    http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25205

    Re: "Ra" & "Seth" Alien Seances / Scientific Experiments / Debate
    (mostly various assorted rationalist materialist positivist-scientismic super-geniuses)
    General Subjects < Skepticism < UFOs, Cryptozoology, and The Paranormal
    http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.ph...&start=240



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    * And the University itself (198 years into its existence as an institution of higher learning)  has such virulent folly as the following to contend with: https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/24668-university-of-virginia-students-and-profs-seek-to-censure-uva-president-for-quoting-Jefferson (Keep in mind that Thos. Jefferson was the seminal master-mind behind the very founding of U. of Va. itself...)
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    04-24-2017, 10:11 PM
    (04-18-2017, 01:53 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:
    (04-18-2017, 04:50 AM)Dekalb_Blues Wrote: What you're seeing here is at the U. of Va. is actually part of the sneaky process Schopenhauer so grumpily pointed out 199 years ago as being deployed by the busybody intelligentsia, and could be considered as the beginning of his  "trivialization-through-belittlement" phase. The hyper-rationalist materialists of Academia, acolytes of the Great Scientismic God Positivismus Maximus,* find to their annoyance that they must perforce confront a no-longer-deniable phenomenon that will not civilly go away of its own accord, so they must needs exert their word-magic upon it so as to make of it a rationally categorizable thing of minor importance (a mere psychoneurological glitch in the otherwise apple-pie-order proceedings of physics as per the modern non-God-haunted paradigm of reality) that must be noted only so that it may be appropriately named, and named precisely so that it may be officially dismissed as old hat. Thus neatly side-stepping the phase in which it needs to be addressed seriously as a reality with certain implications tending to undermine the power structure status quo. Which God forbid. Meanwhile, of course, it seems like only yesterday it was totally beyond the pale, and a sure sign of imbecility, if not actual lunacy, to even countenance the thing at all.**

    This is not at all the sense I got looking through their work both on that website and the faculty's published books. In fact, I think it's a gross mis-characterization of their studies and the way they frame their mission.

    Can you explain why you believe this? Besides that they have views of hypnotic regression that are not in alignment with yours. I certainly don't agree with their take on hypnotic regression, but disagreeing on one point doesn't seem like a decent reason to completely dismiss someone's work. Is there anything else that leads you to this conclusion?

    In Jazz circles Austin, musicians might explain to one who was received badly that he was just "too hip for the room." That's what I say happened here. DeKalb was having fun.

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    05-10-2017, 11:32 PM (This post was last modified: 05-10-2017, 11:39 PM by Dekalb_Blues.)
    (04-24-2017, 10:11 PM)kycahi Wrote:
    (04-18-2017, 01:53 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:
    (04-18-2017, 04:50 AM)Dekalb_Blues Wrote: [Mucho utter bull***t] .... a sure sign of imbecility, if not actual lunacy... [blather].

    Leave us not assassinate this subject further, Dekalb. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?!

    If you have anything to get off your chest in this sordid matter besides your chin, please regale us with more of your pathetic delusional effusions as we break out the torches and pitch forks.

    In Jazz circles Austin, musicians might explain to one who was received badly that he was just "an @$$hole" (possibly even from El Paso) and richly deserved "an @$$-whoopin'" as well as ostracism.

    It would seem that D.B. is too full-of-$#!t for this room.

    Well, all y'all severally run rings around me logically. It's a fair cop, k., but Society's to blame.

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    [Image: uyiVwVA.gif] Well, perhaps a little hop now and then.

     That is very far.

     

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