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    Glow Away

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    09-19-2020, 12:08 PM (This post was last modified: 09-19-2020, 12:59 PM by Glow.)
    I’m doing a reread and I am finding stuff that wasn’t terribly impactful to me on first or second go is way more significant this time.

    I’m starting in book two since I’ve lent out book one so here is the first one that suprised me this go.

    If you have some you’d like to add I’d love it and maybe why it hit you different this time, if you are inclined.

    “ 6.24 Questioner: I’ll just ask one little short one that you may not be able to answer before the final… The short one is, can you tell me what percentage of the Wanderers on Earth today have been successful in penetrating the memory block and becoming aware who they are, and then finally, is there anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or improve the contact?

    Ra: I am Ra. We can approximate the percentage of those penetrating intelligently their status. This is between eight and one-half and nine and three-quarters percent.

    There is a larger percentile group of those who have a fairly well defined, shall we say, symptomology indicating to them that they are not of this, shall we say, “insanity.” This amounts to a bit over fifty percent of the remainder.

    Nearly one-third of the remainder are aware that something about them is different, so you see there are many gradations of awakening to the knowledge of being a Wanderer. We may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense.

    This instrument is well. The resting place is somewhat deleterious in its effect upon the comfort of the dorsal side of this instrument’s physical vehicle. We have mentioned this before.
    You are conscientious. We leave you now, my friends.
    I am Ra. I leave you in the love and in the light of the Infinite Creator. Go forth, then, rejoicing merrily in the power and the peace of the One Creator. Adonai.”


    I feel like I didn’t even see this in other reads.

    8.5 - 9.75 % is such a small percentage. I remember being in the second group. 50% of the remainder so approximately 45% of wanderers just feeling they don’t fit, or understand why the world is so foreign to their nature, why there is so much disharmony and everything just feels so uncomfortabley unsuitable for life they resonate with.

    I was lucky. I remember or rather was haunted by wanting to go home and staring up to the sky when I was just learning to walk. I at least subconsciously knew this wasn’t anything like the last experience, some how I knew something came before but not what, just it wasn’t here and this didn’t feel right.

    Eventually I saw someone quote a part of the LOO channeling and it rang like a bell. I had to find out where they got the info they espoused, and they told me.

    At least I could follow my resonance with the material and find a map or clarity.

    It is startling to think how many wanderers feel some version of what I felt and do not have the good fortune to have their signposts be so clear.
    Or perhaps they have so much trauma or distractions that they couldn’t see it if the signposts were smacking them in the face.

    I guess I don’t have the right words but this seems another reason to wander. If I was unable to awaken but stuck behind the full veil. I would need all the grace, compassion and help any could offer, likely even more than a native 3D entity would need. At least they do not subconsciously remember densities with more unity.
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    09-19-2020, 12:28 PM
    yes yes yes. So the importance of giving more love and compassion. In a way getting the percentage is just an indication and motivation to move further in love and we are all in this together, not just STO butSTS too in the way they motivate us to love more both inside and outside through catalyst.
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    09-19-2020, 01:39 PM
    First block was not understanding why children used lies. Did not begin figuring this out until high school and only because i read psychology and astro cosmology books.

    Most channeled material i find resonant and useful. I looked for it in sci fi fiction. Wrong category i think.
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    09-21-2020, 08:01 PM
    Just saw this thread now. It's a good idea. I have a few tidbits that I've come across on my recent re-read that I wouldn't want to start a whole new thread over.

    This may seem insignificant to others, but this is the first time I noticed that Ra stated that they can offer philosophical information without direct questioning:
    Quote:2.6 ... "A: I am Ra. We are pleased that you asked this question, for it is not our understanding that we have the right/duty to share our perceptions on any subject but philosophy without direct question."

    Of course it makes sense as Ra does insert philosophical concepts when answering transitory questions a lot, which I am very grateful for.

    I think it's an interesting point to ponder as it has implications for the freewill we experience here on Earth as philosophies can be so freely given. Philosophy can appear relatively harmless, but when we absorb a certain philosophy it has the power to dictate what reality tunnel we live in.
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    09-22-2020, 12:15 AM (This post was last modified: 09-22-2020, 12:17 AM by Ymarsakar.)
    https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...?tid=14612

    I have been investigating YHVH's identity for quite some time, ever since 2016.

    It's because it is such a critical part of Western human history. Kind of hard to avoid it given state christianity and the Vatican. If I was still a Deist, it would have been easy to ignore it, but not when I was initiated into the Melchizedek priesthood. That changed things, then it became personal.

    Before, I didn't care, as God was a type of Source without awareness or not a person. So all these religions and their holy texts, I discounted as fanciful fantasies and self entertainment. And later I found out that was not true and true at the same time. It was an intuitive knowing about God/Source. YHVH was a type of personality, true, and so are many other ETs and elder civilization representatives. But God/Source itself, is not a person as we think of a personality. Definitely not a human elder or leader.

    Generally speaking, the Gnostics fall in line with the belief that YHVH was Yaldaboath, a dark matrix AI given by revelation to John. But then there are positive polarized individuals that are obviously polarizing service to other, utilizing the Christ or even the Torah.

    It got confusing. Very confusing. Dark night of the soul magical attack realm confusing.

    The Law of One material shed some light on it, but I was still seeking. I found most of what I sought in Only Planet of Choice.
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    09-22-2020, 07:09 AM
    I am enjoying that book right now. But I must say that if I had not have the Ra Material under my belt before reading it, I would have been somewhat confused. Now I feel I am properly equipped to distill the information I require from it.

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    09-22-2020, 08:22 AM (This post was last modified: 09-22-2020, 08:29 AM by Ymarsakar.)
    (09-22-2020, 07:09 AM)Patrick Wrote: I am enjoying that book right now. But I must say that if I had not have the Ra Material under my belt before reading it, I would have been somewhat confused. Now I feel I am properly equipped to distill the information I require from it.

    One of the weird things about the Council of 9 sessions were all the individuals that rotated through it.

    Gene Roddenberry, for one.

    But the other seekers asking questions there... I got the distinct impression these were sleeper agents or seekers (of our polarity/civilization).

    The questions and responses they asked... were not from humans. It was not even Don's "I can't believe US has these fleets you talk about" reaction in the early sessions. These individuals have a telempathic connection, and finish each other's sentences. Even the translator/representative, Tom (Atum/Thoth) often said these humans were getting it. That is high and rare praise from most of these entities. They were led to this channel and the scribe (the woman).

    Why are most channels women? Eh....

    For those that need a refresher on why this relates to the Law of One materia, read here. https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=...+of+Saturn

    Pay close attention to the number of times that "authorizations" are sought from this council and given. They often say they don't have a spiritual hierarchy. But they do have a type of government and authority system.
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    09-22-2020, 01:15 PM (This post was last modified: 09-22-2020, 01:55 PM by Ymarsakar.)
    https://www.lawofone.info/s/39#9

    39.9 Questioner: I see. “The Nine” describe themselves as the “nine principals of God.” Can you tell me what they mean by that?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is also a veiled statement. The attempt is made to indicate that the nine who sit upon the Council are those representing the Creator, the One Creator, just as there may be nine witnesses in a courtroom testifying for one defendant. The term principal has this meaning also.
    The desire of the scribe may be seen in much of this material to have affected the manner of its presentation just as the abilities and preferences of this group determine the nature of this contact. The difference lies in the fact that we are as we are. Thus we may either speak as we will or not speak at all. This demands a very tuned, shall we say, group.

    Category: Ra Contact

    39.10 Questioner: I sense that there is fruitful ground for investigation of our development in tracing the evolution of the bodily energy centers because these seven centers seem to be linked with all of the sevens that I spoke of previously and be central to our own development. Could you describe the process of evolution of these bodily energy centers starting with the most primitive form of life to have them?

    Ra: I am Ra. This material has been covered previously to some extent. Therefore, we shall not repeat information upon which rays dwell in first and second density and the wherefores of this, but rather attempt to enlarge upon this information.
    The basic pivotal points of each level of development; that is, each density beyond second, may be seen to be as follows: Firstly, the basic energy of so-called red ray. This ray may be understood to be the basic strengthening ray for each density. It shall never be condescended to as less important or productive of spiritual evolution, for it is the foundation ray.
    The next foundation ray is yellow. This is the great stepping stone ray. At this ray the mind/body potentiates to its fullest balance. The strong red/orange/yellow triad springboards the entity into the center ray of green. This is again a basic ray but not a primary ray.
    This is the resource for spiritual work. When green ray has been activated we find the third primary ray being able to begin potentiation. This is the first true spiritual ray in that all transfers are of an integrated mind/body/spirit nature. The blue ray seats the learning/teachings of the spirit in each density within the mind/body complex, animating the whole, communicating to others this entirety of beingness.
    The indigo ray, though precious, is that ray worked upon only by the adept, as you would call it. It is the gateway to intelligent infinity bringing intelligent energy through. This is the energy center worked upon in those teachings considered inner, hidden, and occult, for this ray is that which is infinite in its possibilities. As you are aware, those who heal, teach, and work for the Creator in any way which may be seen to be both radiant and balanced are those activities which are indigo ray.
    As you are aware, the violet ray is constant and does not figure into a discussion of the functions of ray activation in that it is the mark, the register, the identity, the true vibration of an entity.

    Category: Energy Centers

    39.11 Questioner: In order to clarify a little bit I would like to ask the question if we have a highly polarized entity polarized towards service to others and a highly polarized entity polarized towards service to self, what would be, taking each ray, starting with red, would there be a difference in the red ray of these two entities?

    Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full question of this working.
    There is no difference in equally strongly polarized positive and negative entities as regards red ray.

    Category: Energy Centers: Red Ray

    39.4 Questioner: I will then continue now with the general questioning, attempting to find a way into a line of questioning which will get us into an area of understanding non-transient functions which may be worked upon by us and others to raise our consciousness and I may make several mistakes here in trying to find a way into this questioning. I apologize in advance if my questioning is misleading. I notice that everything seems… or most of the basic things seem to be divided into units which total seven. In looking at a transcript by Henry Puharich from “The Nine” I found a statement by The Nine where they say, “If we get seven times the electrical equivalent of the human body then it would result in sevenon of the mass of electricity.” Could you explain this?

    Ra: I am Ra. To explain this is beyond the abilities of your language. We shall, however, make an attempt to address this concept.
    As you are aware, in the beginning of the creations set up by each Logos, there are created the complete potentials, both electrical, in the sense of the one you call Larson, and metaphysical. This metaphysical electricity is as important in the understanding, shall we say, of this statement as is the concept of electricity.
    This concept, as you are aware, deals with potentiated energy. The electron has been said to have no mass but only a field. Others claim a mass of infinitesimal measure. Both are correct. The true mass of the potentiated energy is the strength of the field. This is also true metaphysically.
    However, in your present physical system of knowledge it is useful to take the mass number of the electron in order to do work that you may find solutions to other questions about the physical universe. In such a way, you may conveniently consider each density of being to have a greater and greater spiritual mass. The mass increases, shall we say, significantly but not greatly until the gateway density. In this density the summing up, the looking backwards— in short, all the useful functions of polarity have been used. Therefore, the metaphysical electrical nature of the individual grows greater and greater in spiritual mass.
    For an analog one may observe the work of the one known as Albert who posits the growing to infinity of mass as this mass approaches the speed of light. Thus the seventh-density being, the completed being, the Creator who knows Itself, accumulates mass and compacts into the One Creator once again.

    39.2 Questioner: Is there anything that the instrument could do in addition to what she is attempting to do to help her condition get better faster? I know that she hasn’t been able to exercise because of her foot problem for the last couple of days— not able to walk, but we are hoping to get back to that. Is there anything else that she could do?

    Ra: I am Ra. As we have implied, the negative entities are moving all stops out to undermine this instrument at this time. This is the cause of the aforementioned problem with the pedal digit. It is fortunate that this instrument shall be greatly involved in the worship of the One Infinite Creator through the vibratory complexes of sacred song during this period. The more active physical existence, both in the movements of exercise and in the sexual sense, are helpful. However the requirements of this instrument’s distortions towards what you would call ethics have an effect upon this latter activity. Again, it is fortunate that this instrument has the opportunities for loving social intercourse which are of some substantial benefit. Basically, in your third-density continuum, this is a matter of time.

    Distortions towards what you would call ethics have an effect upon this latter activity... which would be what, active physical existence in the sexual sense?

    I'll get to this topic later.


    70.6 Questioner: In the last session Ra stated that “the path back from sixth-density negative time/space revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative time/space.” Could you explain the higher self’s position with respect to positive and negative time/space and why it is so reluctant to enter negative time/space that it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time to find its path back?

    Ra: I am Ra. In brief, you have answered your own query. Please question further for more precise information.

    Category: Ra Contact: Psychic Greeting

    70.7 Questioner: Why is the higher self reluctant to enter negative time/space?

    Ra: I am Ra. The Higher Self is reluctant to allow its mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative time/space for the same basic reason an entity of your societal complex would be reluctant to enter a prison.

    Category: Ra Contact: Psychic Greeting

    Prison! The idea of the root/yellow/orange/red chakras boosting to 4th density heart chakra, was an idea I got whenever I saw psychics and tele empaths do things in the opposite fashion. Meaning, they come with the indigo chakra activated and are drawing on their divine memories to imprint the dna here for an activation. As a result, their lower 3 chakras are the weakest. This is the reverse of the orthodox seeker's method, refined in India. Having an outside verification, channeled information ,is very useful. It allows me to discern what may be more accurate vs the distortions.

    https://youtu.be/PEYxuoYnxUs?t=2400

    The sexual magic relook. A recent Jim McCarty talk about Law of One. Carla was Don's research partner and also romantic partner I presume. Jim then says "sexual energy transfer between Carla and myself".

    OMG, they really are a Japanese love triangle. I knew it. I intuited and sensed something like it from reading some after commentary. If Carla was Don's partner, why would she be "ethically" against tantric sex with him?

    These wanderers have so many veils and confusion, violet cloaks, around them, that it takes awhile for me to penetrate past the outer cover.

    In my case, it is usually not the channeled informatio nitself that is difficult to comprehend. That only requires a few nights on the astral, to reconfigure and re activate divine dna and get downloads. But rather, it is certain details about people that are the most difficult.

    The "free will infringement" is potentially much larger for living individuals. Since in this case, the living individual Jim brought it up, I can now bring it up.

    I also need to make a correction. Quo is not a 4th density channel as I once wrote, that would be Hatonn. Quo is as I now read in the article, a principle/principal of 3 as one. Sorta like the telepathic communion of the Council of 9. Are they mimicking their higher 7th density mentors? Or is there a working that they are involved in that requires Hatonn/Latwii/Ra....

    Much like John Desouza, I like to investigate and pierce mysteries. Strangely though, i do not look for mystery novels.

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    09-22-2020, 04:52 PM (This post was last modified: 09-22-2020, 04:59 PM by Patrick.)
    Glad to see you getting more intimate with the people and circumstances behind the Ra Material.  I always find it of interest to get to know the people behind a source of information.  Not for judging the info, but so that I can understand it better, knowing more about the source's point of view.

    (09-22-2020, 01:15 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...Are they mimicking their higher 7th density mentors? Or is there a working that they are involved in that requires Hatonn/Latwii/Ra...

    Carla is channeling Hatonn who is channeling Latwii who is channeling Ra.  So it's translated in realtime in between each densities. Each of them does their best to input the least amount of distortions at each steps, but of course that is not the same purity as Carla channeling Ra. Yet Q'uo stuff is really good.

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    (09-22-2020, 04:52 PM)Patrick Wrote: Glad to see you getting more intimate with the people and circumstances behind the Ra Material.  I always find it of interest to get to know the people behind a source of information.  Not for judging the info, but so that I can understand it better, knowing more about the source's point of view.





    (09-22-2020, 01:15 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...Are they mimicking their higher 7th density mentors? Or is there a working that they are involved in that requires Hatonn/Latwii/Ra...

    Carla is channeling Hatonn who is channeling Latwii who is channeling Ra.  So it's translated in realtime in between each densities.  Each of them does their best to input the least amount of distortions at each steps, but of course that is not the same purity as Carla channeling Ra.  Yet Q'uo stuff is really good.

    Channeled material is already utilizing a translation service. The new name gives the hint that they are a telepathic combination of vibrations, rather than just a translation. Higher densities, like Council of Saturn, routinely use sub civilizations to translate and gain certain information. But it does not usually change their name vibration or their greeting method.

    Who are you as Q’uo as you speak to us?

    I am Q’uo. I am two social memory complexes, the one you know of as Ra, and the one you know of as Latwii. We have combined because this instrument constantly asks for the highest and best contact it may stably carry.

    The energies of the one known as Ra, which is a social memory complex of sixth density, is an energy band narrow enough that it requires the locking in, and therefore the unconscious state, of the mind of the channel. The entities of Ra were appalled to see the toll it took upon this instrument to bring forth that which it did channel. It was not expected that there would be so much interest from what this instrument calls the loyal opposition.


    When our energies are stepped down to those of Latwii, an energy this instrument feels most comfortable with, we are able to offer concepts that are to some degree more precise and, may we say, perhaps more interesting to the advanced student of metaphysics, than that which is called Latwii would be by the self, for Latwii is of the fifth density, the density of wisdom, and as you can feel, our vibrations are the vibrations not only of wisdom, but compassion as well.


    https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue..._0917.aspx
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ixdv9pRj-g

    These references aren't easy to find, given the lack of an archive search.
    Quote:Carla: One question. I notice that when I say your name in channeling there seems to be an “a” before your name when I verbalize it. I wondered what I was picking up?

    I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my sister. We are, as you are aware, a principle which has been created or constructed of two different mind/body/spirit complexes, each of which contains its own signature vibration or sound vibration which designates and identifies the entities involved. The beginning of the identification which you have noticed is that sound of, as we have discovered your peoples call it, the spheres, the great Aum which those of Ra partake of in a more balanced fashion. Thus, this sound of the “a” is a kind of bleed-through or a vibratory range that somewhat overlaps the blending of our two sound-vibration complexes, overlaps and underlies, for this sound of the spheres is that music that is available to any entity which has tuned itself to the one creation.

    Is there a further query, my sister?

    Carla: Yes. I noted that you spoke of the two social memory complexes involved, and for a while I felt that there was a third one involved, namely Hatonn, and that that entity had come on board with the principle in order to deal with some of the needs of some of the members of the circle at that time, and when that entity left perhaps Hatonn left also. Is this correct?

    I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my sister. And though this supposition upon your part has its correctness it is not simply enough to say that that is correct, for there are many entities of the social memory complex nature which have been attracted to and have spoken to this group in its history, as you would say. When such a commitment and communication has been made it is never broken but remains as a link so that when this group gathers in its circle of seeking there are many who are drawn to it and do not participate directly in the spoken communication but which lend their vibratory presence to this circle of seeking, and any of this group of entities may be called upon by any in your circle of seeking for special communication, shall we say, that is, the calming effect that one group may have for a certain entity, the inspirational effect that one group may have for another entity. In general, there is much support that is available to this circle of seeking from those of the Confederation of Planets in the Service of the One Infinite Creator.

    Is there a further query, my sister?

    Carla: No, thank you for the information. It is fascinating and good to know.

    I am Q’uo, and again we thank you, my sister. We would ask for a final query at this time if there is one.

    R: The answer you have just given about the entities being present when the circle is together has touched upon a feeling that I had and I wanted to voice it. When I listen to Q’uo I really take Q’uo to represent a Brotherhood of Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow, as Ra has called it. I wanted to thank you for bringing it up because it has cleared up something for me because I felt there were more than just two entities involved and you have put it into a structure that my mind can deal with better. I appreciate that comment.

    I am Q’uo, and we are responding to your response to us, my brother, and we thank you for the grasping of the nature of this contact in a more full sense, for as each in the circle is more able to appreciate that which is offered it makes the service which we have to offer take on a certain ease of momentum, shall we say. We are always gratified to be called specifically by this group, but we would reiterate that when any of the Confederation entities have been called that there is the joining of the particular entities called by others who are attracted by the seeking of the group. For as the group in which you sit gathers itself together and shares with the others of the group the concerns of the heart, the concerns of the mind, and the concerns of the day there is created a certain vibratory level which is likened to a calling for service in these areas from entities that are, shall we say, specialists and whose desire is to provide information and inspiration to those of the Earth population who would seek such solace.

    As to the beginning of the New Year of your experience, we find that such demarcations of time, and especially this one, are helpful to each entity in that it provides a clean slate in the mind of the entity upon which can be written the new and more refined aspirations that the entity may desire to express within its own life pattern and [may] find it more easily able to do so when it feels that there is a new opportunity presented. Much as a level of a new incarnation offers the freedom of expression to an entity, so does this beginning of a new calendar year for your peoples.

    We are those of Q’uo, and would at this time express our appreciation to each here for inviting our presence in your circle of seeking this day. It is a great honor to be able to do so and we would hope that each entity would use the discrimination native within each to take those words which ring of truth that we have spoken this day and use them as each will, leaving behind those that do not have that ring of truth at this time. At this time we shall take our leave of this instrument and this group, leaving each in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator. We are know to you as those of Q’uo. Adonai, my friends. Adonai.

    The term "principle" or "principal" is the same term used by the Council of Saturn to describe their 9 telepathic linking. It's a kind of Google search basically, where solar complexes combine to share information and cut down on miscommunication. Their version of a Zoom meeting.
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