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    Thread: Self-imposed discipline


    Nau7ik (Offline)

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    03-17-2018, 09:14 AM (This post was last modified: 03-17-2018, 09:15 AM by Nau7ik.)
    I believe that one of the keys to progression upon the spiritual path is study and practice. A personalized daily practice should be set up, established, and faithfully kept to. Eventually it will become a natural part of one’s daily life. Very important!! We must “walk the talk.”

    So my question to B4 is: what is your daily practice like? How do you personally choose to study, worship, practice, meditate, contemplate, etc?

    I think a sense of novelty is a good thing to have on the spiritual path. It keeps the flame burning. I also recognize that it’s inevitable that we pass through “the desert” from time to time. And this is where perseverance and faith comes in.

    I have my own personally devised practice which I do daily. I have been feeling that I should refine my technique, per se. I believe that the first steps upon any spiritual / magical / mystical training program should be: posture and rhythmic breathing.

    I first begin with a relaxation technique I learned when I was 17-18. I imagine a point of white light twinkling in deep space above my head, it shoots down to between my feet and forms a ball of white-golden light which then goes over each part of my body relaxing it.
    I usually meditate in the god position, with my hands in my lap forming the cosmic mudra. I employ my own prayers for intention and protection, which I am now learning is eerily similar to a Qabalistic prayer. I ask for protection starting from the “one Infinite Creator” (Kether on Tree of Life, note I did not realize these correspondences when I devised this prayer and subsequently refined it, naturally, as felt right.) “in the name of Jesus Christ” (Tiphareth), “for Thine is the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, forever and ever, Amen.” (Grounding in Malkuth, in the Material realm). During the prayer, after the protection of Christ (unconditional love) is invoked, I visualize the Sun’s golden rays shining down upon me where I am sitting.
    I then proceed to invite the spiritual realms to participate and meditate with me. For example, I invite the angels, my guides and teachers, Higher Self, Confederation such as those of Q’uo, and all of my unseen friends. (I’m not hesitant to say “all” because your space is protected in Light. Unfriendly “friends” will not want to be there.)
    I count down from ten, and enter into the meditative state. Breathing is rhythmic during the entirety of the meditation. Ill admit that I haven’t quite mastered this yet. After the meditation is done, I count up to 10, then I say prayer to dismiss those that I’ve invited to join and close the meditation. The prayer is ended by speaking aloud, “ADONAI.” (I learned this from the Confederation sources.)

    These ritual movements signal to the subconscious and one will thereby establish a means of entering into the meditative state. You subconscious mind is alerted to your intentions by the repeated ritual movements.

    Anyway, feel free to share what you have to share. What inspires you? What motivates you personally? How do you impose self-discipline? This is my own personal practice. Yours may be quite different and that’s perfectly fine. I think we can learn a lot from each other by observing different techniques and perspectives. There’s no judgment here. I believe that one’s practice is personal and unique to them, and that’s well. In fact, I think one’s personally devised practice is more meaningful when its self-imposed.

    Much love to all of the beautiful souls of B4!
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    03-17-2018, 03:08 PM
    Lately it's been doing energy exchanges with a higher density being. I think I am helped more than them.

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    03-18-2018, 09:23 AM
    (03-17-2018, 03:08 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Lately it's been doing energy exchanges with a higher density being. I think I am helped more than them.

    What kind of energy exchanges? Like sexual? I think that’s what you said in my last thread. I don’t have any experience with working with unseen beings, that I’m aware of. I would count that as work/practice.

    I really need to start my dream journal. It has been the hardest thing for me to accomplish thus far, establishing a dream journal.

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    03-18-2018, 09:42 AM
    yeah - I was going to mention that.

    Dreams.

    It's the one consistent resource that I've utilised over the last 10 years.

    The trick that I've found is that because the symbolism/encoding is so mysterious, it's extremely helpful to treat it as an answer.  If it's an 'answer', then what is the question?  The question is something that has been on your mind, unresolved, and there have been subtle prompts at least over the previous day (and maybe stretching back multiple days).

    Once you figure out the 'question'; the 'answer' makes much more sense.

    So that's one way of working with it, that I've found to be quite useful.

    Plen
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    03-18-2018, 10:29 AM
    (03-18-2018, 09:23 AM)Nau7ik Wrote:
    (03-17-2018, 03:08 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Lately it's been doing energy exchanges with a higher density being. I think I am helped more than them.

    What kind of energy exchanges? Like sexual? I think that’s what you said in my last thread. I don’t have any experience with working with unseen beings, that I’m aware of. I would count that as work/practice.

    I really need to start my dream journal. It has been the hardest thing for me to accomplish thus far, establishing a dream journal.

    I don't think my exchanges are sexual, or of the sexual chakra. But they are of the heart and 3rd eye chakras.
    Or just my whole field in general. I just mainly focus on feeling their energy.
    It has helped with anxiety. But it has also let my thoughts run wild, so I have to discipline myself there.

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    03-19-2018, 06:28 AM
    (03-17-2018, 09:14 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: So my question to B4 is: what is your daily practice like? How do you personally choose to study, worship, practice, meditate, contemplate, etc?

    I'm following the Christian way although I hold other paths in great respect. That means for me seeking communion with the One Creator by active fulfillment of God's will, with the help of His grace, for the greater glory of God. My innitiation was when I consciously and willingly entered into this "life in Spirit" (in our church there are rites of passage: "baptism" and "confirmation"). That's my frame of reference and thus my basic disposition in practice is oriented toward synergy, dialogue and communion. Ra's advice "Always begin and end in the Creator, not in technique" resonates with me.

    When possible I approach the Creator and nourish spiritual life with the help of sacraments, rituals, gestures, music, words, texts, symbols, names, guides, meditation method ... from the rich church tradition and my personal expressions from the heart. From this resource I get elements for composing the morning ritual for example.

    "Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed." (Mr 1, 35)
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    03-19-2018, 09:07 AM
    (03-18-2018, 09:42 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: yeah - I was going to mention that.

    Dreams.

    It's the one consistent resource that I've utilised over the last 10 years.

    The trick that I've found is that because the symbolism/encoding is so mysterious, it's extremely helpful to treat it as an answer.  If it's an 'answer', then what is the question?  The question is something that has been on your mind, unresolved, and there have been subtle prompts at least over the previous day (and maybe stretching back multiple days).

    Once you figure out the 'question'; the 'answer' makes much more sense.

    So that's one way of working with it, that I've found to be quite useful.

    Plen

    Thank you for this piece of insight! I very much appreciate it! It will be helpful to me, because you’re right, the symbolism is mysterious.
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    03-19-2018, 09:15 AM
    (03-18-2018, 10:29 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:
    (03-18-2018, 09:23 AM)Nau7ik Wrote:
    (03-17-2018, 03:08 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Lately it's been doing energy exchanges with a higher density being. I think I am helped more than them.

    What kind of energy exchanges? Like sexual? I think that’s what you said in my last thread. I don’t have any experience with working with unseen beings, that I’m aware of. I would count that as work/practice.

    I really need to start my dream journal. It has been the hardest thing for me to accomplish thus far, establishing a dream journal.

    I don't think my exchanges are sexual, or of the sexual chakra. But they are of the heart and 3rd eye chakras.
    Or just my whole field in general. I just mainly focus on feeling their energy.
    It has helped with anxiety. But it has also let my thoughts run wild, so I have to discipline myself there.

    Yes discipline is needed to quiet the mind. One just has to keep working at it. This could take a while to accomplish, but I think it’s better to keep trying than to not try.

    Since I just started discipline rhythmic breathing, I’ve noticed that my mind is more focused during the meditations. Thoughts will still come into my mind, but they are fewer. Time also goes by very quickly.

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    03-19-2018, 01:55 PM
    I discussed my routine in this thread, here's a recap:

    Quote:1. Get up and make coffee. Coffee is not an absolute requirement, but in addition to helping me wake up, it is a downright ritual at this point. I don't need it to get my day going, but I sure do like starting with it!
    2. I read one session of the Ra contact.
    3. I read one chapter of When Things Fall Apart. This is probably my 10th re-reading and is likely the most consistently vital book I read in the morning because it's so practical. I bought another book of Chödrön's and will start reading that when I'm finished with this reread of the old one.
    4. I read one non-Ra channeling. I've been purchasing the channeling archive books and going through them, highlighting passages that I'll later consider tweeting.
    5. I say the Lord's prayer and start clearing the mind.
    6. I ask for Confederation assistance with my meditation, usually from Laitos.
    7. About 10 minutes or so in is when I feel the satisfying portion really starts. Before then I'm doing more practice with letting thoughts go. It's an exercise in patience to keep diligently touching and releasing your thought processes.
    8. Once I feel I've gotten to a stopping point, I say the prayer of St. Francis of Assisi ("Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace"). I do a cabalistic cross on my amen ("Ateh, Malkuth", etc.).
    9. This part I got from Jade. I then place my hands on my heart and say an affirmation, setting the intent for the day, whatever I want to work on that comes to mind.
    10. I visualize the earth and send love and appreciation. When I'm at my best I really try to practice tonglen, the breathing in of suffering, pain, heat, uncomfortableness, stress, etc. and the breathing out of coolness, happiness, freshness, etc.
    11. I sing the "I am the circle" song.
    This is my normal routine, but when I have a special need to practice my tuning and challenging, I go through my preliminaries which involve visualizing my guides, doing special dedications and energy exercises (clearing chakras), etc.
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    03-19-2018, 01:57 PM
    (03-19-2018, 09:15 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: Yes discipline is needed to quiet the mind. One just has to keep working at it. This could take a while to accomplish, but I think it’s better to keep trying than to not try.

    Yeah, discipline is key, but in my experience it's more a discipline of "not giving up" than doing something particular or forcing anything.  My best meditations are ones where I want to explore myself in meditation. When I don't want to do that for whatever reason, I meditate anyway, even if it's bad and unfocused, and trust that my practice is building my ability to hold attention.
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    03-19-2018, 11:47 PM
    If you're really clear with what you want to do, doing it becomes the necessary discipline to shift perspective or circumstances in the desired way. That is the challenge. Cyclic progression. Discipline is gained in the psychic flexibility to handle catalyst thru experience
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    03-20-2018, 11:42 AM (This post was last modified: 03-20-2018, 11:44 AM by Ra1111.)
    What would you do with your dream journal ? I’ve been keeping one for a few years now, and I can’t find a benefit yet, outside of every now and then going back and reading something that I don’t even really remember and getting a giggle. I can never find connections to waking life.

    Currently the thing that works best for my daily practice is sitting in the sunshine, eyes closed, praying for more sunlight and more warmth. It also usually ends with some intense cloud gazing. That is such a natural “talent” of mine , I wish I could find a way to use it in a way that is not strictly for my amusement.

    Edit: also, I am trying so hard to (re?)gain high sense perception because I am being so drawn to human energy field healing studies.

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    03-21-2018, 09:25 AM
    (03-20-2018, 11:42 AM)Ra1111 Wrote: What would you do with your dream journal ? I’ve been keeping one for a few years now, and I can’t find a benefit yet, outside of every now and then going back and reading something that I don’t even really remember and getting a giggle. I can never find connections to waking life.

    Currently the thing that works best for my daily practice is sitting in the sunshine, eyes closed, praying for more sunlight and more warmth. It also usually ends with some intense cloud gazing. That is such a natural “talent” of mine , I wish I could find a way to use it in a way that is not strictly for my amusement.

    Edit: also, I am trying so hard to (re?)gain high sense perception because I am being so drawn to human energy field healing studies.

    Well from what I’ve been told and have read, the keeping of the dream journal helps one to remember his dreams. One is showing conscious interest in his dreams. This signals to the subconscious mind and it begins to produce dreams with substance and meaning for you.

    Quote:Make a note, too, of your dreams. This last item will be of considerable value, for your dream life is a potent vehicle of communication between your unconscious and conscious levels. As you continue to record your dreams, your inner faculties will respond, increasingly and ever more clearly, to your interest in their activity, and the content of your dreams will accordingly be enriched and will reflect your progress in the Great Work.

    And my friend I think you are doing work by simply observing nature. Resting in more fully in the present moment is good thing to be able to do. And from my own experiences with gazing at the natural world, you perceive more of the inherent Glory of Creation! Being able to perceive beauty and glory means the higher chakras are being activated.

    There is the service of simple “being”. I believe this to be a great service to the planet and to the planetary population: resting, walking, living with an open heart. One’s actions and “doings” will thereby be informed by love.
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    03-25-2018, 03:26 AM
    (03-17-2018, 09:14 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: So my question to B4 is: what is your daily practice like? How do you personally choose to study, worship, practice, meditate, contemplate, etc?

    Basic summary:

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    Anagogy,

    That video reminds  me of the Strawberry Swing one:


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