Earth changes

[BrotherInWaiting]

Lying awake at night, a thought occurred:

Ra/Q'uo speak of our physical monkey vehicle as being second density. You, right at this moment, are in part second density (unless you are from outer space).

You have a body that comes from the second and a part of your mind that is instinctual, aware of its unity with creation, according to the readings.

It follows that as long as we are utilising a physical vehicle, there is an interdependence between the second and third.

My main point for you guys to discuss, if it's at all of value: if the transition to fourth is now occurring -- this all suggests that it may not be true that we completely abandon the third entirely. I had frankly always envisioned the transition as a total replacement.

Perhaps it's something else. An awakening of facilities, awarenesses, rather than some kind of earth-bending lurch out of a physical vessel.

[AnthroHeart]

Some beings are in 4th density here on Earth.
We are actually in part all densities.

[sillypumpkins]

I honestly don't know. BUT, this might be of interest:

16.51 Questioner: Could you define the word density as we have been using it to give us a little greater idea of the concept of this term when used by you?

Ra: I am Ra. The term density is a, what you would call, mathematical one. The closest analogy is that of music, whereby after seven notes on your western type of scale, if you will, the eighth note begins a new octave. Within your great octave of existence which we share with you, there are seven octaves or densities. Within each density there are seven sub-densities. Within each sub-density, seven sub-sub-densities, and so on infinitely.

The only reason I share this quote is because it sort of expresses how many "shades" densities there are, that is, an infinite amount so perhaps it's not as clear cut as you might perceive? I dunno

take care

[Navaratna]

Sahaja yoga and Law of One have incredibly specific parallels. Jim says densities are chakras. In Hinduism, the 9 navaratna are jewels and planetary positions. The third planet is Saturn which is also where the planetary council is. The fourth density is Venus. This is also the fourth planet in navaratna. The jewel representing Venus in navaratna is diamond. The densities have already been stated to be a chakras by Jim McCarty. My interpretation is that the 9 gems are really the precise tools for balancing the seven chakras in addition to the sun and the Moon. Now with this in mind read this. I would consider the most practical application of information contained within the channelings to be to find a suitable diamond or Ruby and to meditate upon it in the sunlight:
Ra: I am Ra. The principle of crystal healing is based upon an understanding of the hierarchical nature of the structure of the illusion which is the physical body, as you would call it. There are crystals which work upon the energies coming into the spiritual body; there are crystals which work upon the distortions from spirit to mind; there are crystals which balance the distortions between the mind and the body. All of these crystal healings are charged through purified channels. Without the relative crystallization of the healer working with the crystal, the crystal will not be properly charged. The other ingredient is a proper alignment with the energy fields of the planet upon which you dwell and the holistic or cosmic distortions or streamings which enter the planetary aura in such a manner that an appropriate ratio of shapes and placement within these shapes is of indicated aid in the untangling or balancing process.
To go through the various crystals to be used would be exhaustive to this instrument, although you may ask us if you wish in another session. The delicacy, shall we say, of the choosing of the crystal is very critical and, in truth, a crystalline structure such as a diamond or ruby can be used by a purified channel who is filled with the love/light of One in almost any application.
This, of course, takes initiation, and there have never been many to persevere to the extent of progressing through the various distortion leavings which initiation causes.
May we further inform you in any fairly brief way upon this or another subject?

[BrotherInWaiting]

Thank you for responding.

I have an image of a sound meter with different coloured lights, certain colours coming on when the volume reaches a crescendo. We enter the fourth and the next light blinks on for the first time, then STAYS on, until the cycle is over and it starts again from the first.

If there is power in saying what I HOPE the fourth indicates for me, instead of pondering what might occur: I hope to feel at one with the Earth and other beings again, not just believe it as I do, but KNOW it...!!

[Navaratna]

I picture a hologram representing a big hourglass/horizontal ouroboros dragon. Our centers are represented by planets and particular earth materials have the power to stabilize our centers by absorbing and deflecting negative and positive radiations from solar bodies. Light is meant in the most literal way as sunlight/biophotons

[schubert]

ive heard several sources talking about how part of ascension to certain levels involves the body transitioning from being carbon-based to crystalline-based and turning on more dormant dna. i dont know a whole lot about it but if you want to look into it further some things to look up would be stuff like crystalline dna activation and light body activation.

[Infinite]

Lying awake at night, a thought occurred:

Ra/Q'uo speak of our physical monkey vehicle as being second density. You, right at this moment, are in part second density (unless you are from outer space).

You have a body that comes from the second and a part of your mind that is instinctual, aware of its unity with creation, according to the readings.

It follows that as long as we are utilising a physical vehicle, there is an interdependence between the second and third.

My main point for you guys to discuss, if it's at all of value: if the transition to fourth is now occurring -- this all suggests that it may not be true that we completely abandon the third entirely. I had frankly always envisioned the transition as a total replacement.

Perhaps it's something else. An awakening of facilities, awarenesses, rather than some kind of earth-bending lurch out of a physical vessel.

Well, it seems to me that there are more similarities between the first 3 densities than between 3D and 4D. These first 3 are visible, while 4D is invisible. This is because the material is of a higher frequency than 3D vibration. This indicates that 4D bodies are quite different from 3D bodies. I believe that they are what is called the astral body. However, as Ra said, the transition appears to be gradual and not at once for 4D entities to be able to subtle their bodies until they are invisible to 3D. This indicates that a body with a still visible vibration will appear before the final 4D body.

[unity100]

3d body is part of 3d. Its not a 2d vehicle.

There is transition and change in every part of life. Even in an average lifetime in earlier in 3d, entities pass through many changes and each stage of their lives are different.

Social changes that happened in the past 200 years are also a good example. Life is considerably different than what it was. The transition from late 2d to 3d was similar, and the difference in between late 2d and mid 3d are incomparable. Late 3d compared with 2d seems like a different reality.

Similar is the change that is happening - early 4d is manifesting now, with 4d properties starting to show. From feeling/sensing the 'energies' of other people, which is today interpreted as 'getting this vibe from someone' or 'i felt that the group was tense', to early paranormal phenomenon like 'synchronicities'. Some of these are already normalized, seen as just occurrences in daily life.

Over time, people will experience and normalize more 4d traits. These will be 'just normal' stuff. And some time along the way, the society will have changed so much that it will feel like a new reality to those observers who could remember earlier times or those who can imagine/visualize those earlier periods.

A sudden change with all those stuff manifesting at once in a 3d environment would be too hard to handle for many.

[BrotherInWaiting]

Thank you for your insights.

Correct me please if this is not true, but I'm quite confident the readings refer to the body as a second density vehicle. I believe they also refer to certain second density characteristics of what we know as our minds.

This is not to say we are primarily second density beings. As some of you highlighted, we are clearly part of the third and even already detecting the early stages of the fourth for many here...

I wonder if there will continue to be second density vehicles for fourth density beings in the distant future? That's perhaps the crux of this. We have been third density for eons, but retained a second density vehicle the whole time. Who knows.

Maybe we will retain a second density vehicle but of a 'higher' nature as schubert noted.

[Jade]

You are right that the vehicle is second density. In fact, it's the genetic changes/manipulation that were done by Yahweh that make us so different from second density -Ra says in most cases, third density is much closer in appearance and function to second density than we are. I think this contributes to a lot of our superiority to second density and feeling "other than" a natural part of this planet - hence why we are now under quarantine.

Ra says that right now, we are gradually birthing dual activated third/fourth density body complexes. Within a few more generations of bisexual reproduction, we will be fully fourth density beings. Second density will still exist, but for a while there will be no third density cycle of existence, until the newly fourth density entities learn to harness their new abilities and are able to make themselves not visible to third density.

Third density is a brief moment of time on any planet. 75,000 years is a blink. The only thing that makes us third density is our *awareness*. This awareness allows us to strive for fourth density, where our chemical vehicles are not the same as they are in third density.

[Sacred Fool]

My main point for you guys to discuss, if it's at all of value: if the transition to fourth is now occurring -- this all suggests that it may not be true that we completely abandon the third entirely. I had frankly always envisioned the transition as a total replacement.

Perhaps it's something else. An awakening of facilities, awarenesses, rather than some kind of earth-bending lurch out of a physical vessel.

An "earth-bending lurch out of a physical vessel" sounds like a picturesque description of a car wreck to me.  But if that's what you're into.........

To be serious for a moment, I think you are on the right track with the first clause of that sentence, from a spiritual perspective.  From a physical perspective, who can say exactly?  But our "physical vessels" are holding what?  They are holding consciousness.

What differentiates a 2D consciousness from a 3D consciousness?  Well, they're each focusing on one particular wrung of the ladder of conscious awareness, they just happen to be focusing on different ones.  Same goes for 4D, right?  You have more conscious facility, if you will, and you are focusing on exploring different lessons in a different kind of environment.  In some sense, it's all about a similar pattern.  What happened when the Creator originally became aware?  It began to know itself.  You're doing the same thing now, but at your own pace, one wrung at a time.

So, does third grade get thrown out the window when you move on to fourth grade studies.  No, it just becomes less important to you because you are focusing on other things.
  
  

[BrotherInWaiting]

Thank you for responding.

I had a dream that furthers this a little, to me:

It was of the 2d ape creature as almost predatory in how it interacts with the upper dimensional beings that come to reside within it. Particularly for those embedded in a lengthier cycle of incarnations, it was depicted as having a strong depleting effect on the overall spirit/mind complex 'above' it. If this is a true message, which is outside the realm of what we can guarantee while down here, I feel it suggests we pay a massive toll to even arrive.

[BrotherInWaiting]

I ought to add I feel mixed about sharing it and please use discretion. As in there is positive and negative involved and it is useful, but I feel not perfectly clean ...

[flofrog]

Keep on, BrotherInWaiting, I find your search and thoughts quite interesting... lol as if you couldn't keep on, all apologies I think Peregrine's view quite on target, I have an idea that at one point we shall focus on other things..

[Wanderer Seven]

Lying awake at night, a thought occurred:

Ra/Q'uo speak of our physical monkey vehicle as being second density. You, right at this moment, are in part second density (unless you are from outer space).

You have a body that comes from the second and a part of your mind that is instinctual, aware of its unity with creation, according to the readings.

It follows that as long as we are utilising a physical vehicle, there is an interdependence between the second and third.

My main point for you guys to discuss, if it's at all of value: if the transition to fourth is now occurring -- this all suggests that it may not be true that we completely abandon the third entirely. I had frankly always envisioned the transition as a total replacement.

Perhaps it's something else. An awakening of facilities, awarenesses, rather than some kind of earth-bending lurch out of a physical vessel.

3d body is part of 3d. Its not a 2d vehicle.

There is transition and change in every part of life. Even in an average lifetime in earlier in 3d, entities pass through many changes and each stage of their lives are different.

Social changes that happened in the past 200 years are also a good example. Life is considerably different than what it was. The transition from late 2d to 3d was similar, and the difference in between late 2d and mid 3d are incomparable. Late 3d compared with 2d seems like a different reality.

Similar is the change that is happening - early 4d is manifesting now, with 4d properties starting to show. From feeling/sensing the 'energies' of other people, which is today interpreted as 'getting this vibe from someone' or 'i felt that the group was tense', to early paranormal phenomenon like 'synchronicities'. Some of these are already normalized, seen as just occurrences in daily life.

Over time, people will experience and normalize more 4d traits. These will be 'just normal' stuff. And some time along the way, the society will have changed so much that it will feel like a new reality to those observers who could remember earlier times or those who can imagine/visualize those earlier periods.

A sudden change with all those stuff manifesting at once in a 3d environment would be too hard to handle for many.

I agree.
Ra speaks of our bodies as 'yellow ray' or third density, not second. I have not read many of the Q'uo channeling. Ra also indicates an infinite level of variation within the subdensities.

[unity100]

Lying awake at night, a thought occurred:

Ra/Q'uo speak of our physical monkey vehicle as being second density. You, right at this moment, are in part second density (unless you are from outer space).

You have a body that comes from the second and a part of your mind that is instinctual, aware of its unity with creation, according to the readings.

It follows that as long as we are utilising a physical vehicle, there is an interdependence between the second and third.

My main point for you guys to discuss, if it's at all of value: if the transition to fourth is now occurring -- this all suggests that it may not be true that we completely abandon the third entirely. I had frankly always envisioned the transition as a total replacement.

Perhaps it's something else. An awakening of facilities, awarenesses, rather than some kind of earth-bending lurch out of a physical vessel.

3d body is part of 3d. Its not a 2d vehicle.

There is transition and change in every part of life. Even in an average lifetime in earlier in 3d, entities pass through many changes and each stage of their lives are different.

Social changes that happened in the past 200 years are also a good example. Life is considerably different than what it was. The transition from late 2d to 3d was similar, and the difference in between late 2d and mid 3d are incomparable. Late 3d compared with 2d seems like a different reality.

Similar is the change that is happening - early 4d is manifesting now, with 4d properties starting to show. From feeling/sensing the 'energies' of other people, which is today interpreted as 'getting this vibe from someone' or 'i felt that the group was tense', to early paranormal phenomenon like 'synchronicities'. Some of these are already normalized, seen as just occurrences in daily life.

Over time, people will experience and normalize more 4d traits. These will be 'just normal' stuff. And some time along the way, the society will have changed so much that it will feel like a new reality to those observers who could remember earlier times or those who can imagine/visualize those earlier periods.

A sudden change with all those stuff manifesting at once in a 3d environment would be too hard to handle for many.

I agree.
Ra speaks of our bodies as 'yellow ray' or third density, not second. I have not read many of the Q'uo channeling. Ra also indicates an infinite level of variation within the subdensities.

Indeed. 3d body is different than 2d body in many ways, ranging from its mind complex's capability to its capability to manipulate environment.

[BrotherInWaiting]

Ra calls it a yellow-ray vehicle, drawing a link to 3D. Q'uo highlights 2D features of the brain and vehicle. Both highlight the primitive nature of parts of the vehicle and note several ways that the animal's impact remains with us now, even in our consciousnesses.

Trees, certain minerals/physical places, whales and other organisms are supposed to have awakened to 3D, from the various readings. Comparing ourselves with other 3D consciousnesses, it is obvious how each tribe bears the marks of its origins in a real and ongoing way.

[Patrick]

I believe that the concept of the veil is simply to put a 3D mind/body/spirit complex into a 2D physical vehicle.  That is how a Logos has achieved the forgetting.  Fully 3D physical vehicle would not have this feature.