Effects of Good Intentions on the Planet

[zenmaster]

Moderator note: These posts were originally part of the Life on Planet Earth > Bring 4th Call to Action: Japan thread but were split due to a new topic being discussed.

I agree fear wouldn't help matters - but it's a useful emotion to stimulate the adrenals in immediate flight/fight situations, and broadcasting a generic idea of love may offer useful energies.

However, there is no technique that we 'must' do.

We're all unique individuals with different appreciations of what might be done to address a situation. That's the whole point. This particular idea is sort of the loving opposite of a 'lynch mob', but equally distorted. If the individual does not have an idea of 'balance' in a some life circumstance that calls for 'balance', for example, then visualization to address that circumstance will not 'do' much external to self. What is really being offered as intelligence in that intelligent energy?

Also, affective 'love/light' and effective 'love/light' are not necessarily the same thing. I agree that a basis of 'love' is appropriate, because that is a starting point and platform for working with acceptance and respect. As a focus, by itself, 'love' as such can not 'heal' or 'correct' without unambiguous intention capable of addressing the specific distortion. After all, things would 'follow the lead' of this energy. Just because it may make one feel assured and centered, maybe 'protected' or 'empowered' or 'connected', does not mean it can also automatically correct particular planetary distortions.

[unity100]

Just because it may make one feel assured and centered, maybe 'protected' or 'empowered' or 'connected', does not mean it can also automatically correct particular planetary distortions.

quite.

[Richard]

Just because it may make one feel assured and centered, maybe 'protected' or 'empowered' or 'connected', does not mean it can also automatically correct particular planetary distortions.

quite.

Yes,yes...but what does it hurt? Even in thought or meditation....to say a few words or offer a few thoughts for those that have passed and those that may be injured.

Even if it , physically, does nothing...in your opinions of course.

Richard

[unity100]

Just because it may make one feel assured and centered, maybe 'protected' or 'empowered' or 'connected', does not mean it can also automatically correct particular planetary distortions.

quite.

Yes,yes...but what does it hurt? Even in thought or meditation....to say a few words or offer a few thoughts for those that have passed and those that may be injured.

i dont need to mention that, what we have said, and what you are responding, are irrelevant to each other.

deceased people are not planetary distortions.

[Richard]

Just because it may make one feel assured and centered, maybe 'protected' or 'empowered' or 'connected', does not mean it can also automatically correct particular planetary distortions.

quite.

Yes,yes...but what does it hurt? Even in thought or meditation....to say a few words or offer a few thoughts for those that have passed and those that may be injured.

i dont need to mention that, what we have said, and what you are responding, are irrelevant to each other.

deceased people are not planetary distortions.

As always, Unity, you are literal to a fault. I was not responding to the precise example. It was a general observation about people that seem to be unable to take the good intentions of someone in stride.

It doesn't matter if you guys think what Blatz is doing is effective or not. Actually neither of you has any idea, other than your opinions as to the efficacy of his meditations.

What matters is that Blatz cared. And , in his own way...wanted/wants to help.

Richard

[unity100]

As always, Unity, you are literal to a fault. I was not responding to the precise example. It was a general observation about people that seem to be unable to take the good intentions of someone in stride.

however, we were discussing about something particular. i didnt see anyone saying anything about intentions.

i dont even understand whats your particular problem here.

It doesn't matter if you guys think what Blatz is doing is effective or not. Actually neither of you has any idea, other than your opinions as to the efficacy of his meditations.

What matters is that Blatz cared. And , in his own way...wanted/wants to help.

Richard

what does he have anything to do with this particular side discussion ?

just what are you trying to mean ?

[BlatzAdict]

Just because it may make one feel assured and centered, maybe 'protected' or 'empowered' or 'connected', does not mean it can also automatically correct particular planetary distortions.

thanks richard. from the bottom of my heart.

@unity and zenmaster - If you have nothing nice to say, please don't say anything. i merely provided an example of my own meditative practice.. not some directive for you to follow.

@ richard again - yes i just want to help and i care. this is how i show that and thank you for your support. sometimes i feel so alone in these matters and your love is very much felt and appreciated.

@zenmaster and unity - as far as i know all you guys are doing is trying to depolarize the situation by being these really lousy nitpickers and I will say now and forever that I love you, and that there is no amount of your intellectualization that will EVER change that.

This thread is for love, and peace only. Not for you to nitpick on the specific ways I decide or anyone else decides to carry out said love. Please cease and desist if you want to bring anything less than that.

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It is in your free will to believe that it is not possible. Nothing I can say or do will ever change that as long as I am a 3rd Density being, therefore I will continue to speak and promote my own techniques that I have learned throughout my psychic and spiritual endeavors.

It is not a directive for you to follow, take it or leave it. But seriously don't crash in on my love parade.

[unity100]

i would like to make an example of this situation, which has recurred again, and which contradicts with the apparent green ray compassion pursuit. im not replying to blatzaddict's posts, due to the reasons discussed before, however, this time it is quite an important case for the future understanding of important fundamental concepts to pass up. lets see :

@unity and zenmaster - If you have nothing nice to say, please don't say anything. i merely provided an example of my own meditative practice.. not some directive for you to follow.

everyone has their own lessons and knowledge they are pursuing. its not anyone's place to tell someone else to shut up or stop.

@zenmaster and unity - as far as i know all you guys are doing is trying to depolarize the situation by being these really lousy nitpickers and I will say now and forever that I love you, and that there is no amount of your intellectualization that will EVER change that.

these 'love based' aggressive character analysis some of you had been doing, DESPITE claiming to 'be from a place of love', has become quite absurd. it has deteriorated into an effort of portraying others baselessly as villain, demanding them to do this or that, and eventually at this point, demanding them to shut up.

if you are 'coming from a place of love', you dont label people, you dont call them names, you dont make fun of them, you dont tell them to shut up.

you are doing all of these.

This thread is for love, and peace only. Not for you to nitpick on the specific ways I decide or anyone else decides to carry out said love. Please cease and desist if you want to bring anything less than that.

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It is in your free will to believe that it is not possible.

It is not a directive for you to follow, take it or leave it. But seriously don't crash in on my love parade.

if one speaks of free will 'cease and desist' shouldnt be in the same sentence. or love, or peace either.

up to this point, nobody, including zenmaster or me, had told you to stop, or 'cease and desist', or 'not coming from a place of love', or 'not being in peace' or this or that, despite your actions and wordage had contradicted what you were saying in numerous occasions.

i havent even told anything, when you slapped that curiously absurd and irrelevant 'neet troll' pic or something.

neither did i make a character analysis of you or anyone else, nor did i accuse anyone of this or that or demanded them to do anything.

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noone is saying anything about your intentions, or your love parade. noone has the obligation to continually amend someone else's misconceptions/ misperceptions either. in addition, noone is obliged to put up with accusations or character attacks of people who misperceive this or that and create villains in their mind's eye on that basis and go out on a crusade against them. EVEN if the crusade is beautified/veiled with supposed 'words of love'.

two people on this thread, has concentrated on whether particular vibrations fix planetary distortions or not. they have a right to discuss and learn this. its not your place to prevent them from doing that, or anyone else's. JUST like how these other people, did not prevent you from doing what you were doing or told you to stop doing it.

at most, you can ask people talking in side discussions, to take those side discussions to other topics, not to get topic off its original subject. this is quite proper and productive, and actually the way many different threads with different subjects branch out and created.

however, you dont tell them to 'shut up'.

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what strikes me as odd, however is that, none of those claiming to be coming 'from a place of love', or, pursuing the ways of green ray compassion, this and that, have come out and said the things i had had mentioned here, about the apparent conflict of between character-assaulting, villainizing, labeling, telling people to shut up, and the green ray compassion/love. in this, or, in the one and a half thread in which my character was assaulted with various accusations of being evil, sts, again, baselessly too - over something i have NOT said.

i am supposedly someone 'not from a place of love', yet, i am the one voicing these conflicts whenever such a situation arises ? just why is that ? how many times does this need to repeat, before someone else than me comes up and mentions these contradictions in such approaches someone makes ? esssspecially the ones who are claiming to be 'from a place of love', and accusing me, or other 'intellectually inclined' people in this forum, of 'lacking love' or something ?

[Richard]

A simple plea by Blatz for others to pray and meditate for the people of Japan. Thats all it was.

Richard

[unity100]

A simple plea by Blatz for others to pray and meditate for the people of Japan. Thats all it was.

Richard

and noone said anything against this, or noone said anyone to stop.

did they ?

[Aaron]

Maybe it's not only people of Japan, but ourselves that need our love, light, and focused attention...

The situation in Japan is pretty serious. Coastal areas in other places like Hawai'i, Australia, and California are being evacuated. Let's not let the thread become misdirected.

However, as long as we're in a state of disharmony here, we won't be able to promote harmony anywhere else. I would suggest that, instead of reacting defensively to posts by unity100 and zenmaster which suggested that such meditations may be ineffectual, I would practice acceptance of the other self by asking them what their suggestions of action would be. This way, everyone gives input, everyone's included, everyone's accepted, and we're harmonized on intent.

[BlatzAdict]

just facepalm

[zenmaster]

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@unity and zenmaster - If you have nothing nice to say, please don't say anything.

Can't speak for unity, but I'll continue comment on my understanding, whenever I may feel like it, regardless of whatever you may interpret from it. Thanks. Sorry if it 'depolarizes' your 'polarization', which seems to be problematic for you.

[BlatzAdict]

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@unity and zenmaster - If you have nothing nice to say, please don't say anything.

Can't speak for unity, but I'll continue comment on my understanding, whenever I may feel like it, regardless of whatever you may interpret from it. Thanks. Sorry if it 'depolarizes' your 'polarization', which seems to be problematic for you.

sorry i interpreted your words as attack and reacted with defense as opposed to viewing it some other way.