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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Clarity on STO please

    Thread: Clarity on STO please


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    #31
    05-01-2018, 03:41 PM
    The veil was reinforced to bring more opportunity for polarisation and so increase the harvest.

    The weaker body was also designed to stimulate 3rd density lessons - "the necessity for a weaker physical vehicle to encourage the use of the mind."

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    05-01-2018, 06:56 PM (This post was last modified: 05-01-2018, 06:58 PM by xise.)
    (05-01-2018, 12:21 AM)Louisabell Wrote:
    (04-30-2018, 11:29 PM)xise Wrote: But perhaps it's par for the course. After all, Hatton went 4D positive after their 3D society basically reduced their civilization to rubble with a worldwide war, to paraphrase the l/l channeling on the subject, and Hatton specifically states it was because of the interaction of survival fears versus just letting go of those survival fears in order to fully embrace others and share the very limited resources so that more can survive. Maybe there's much more to this red ray issues springboarding into strong polarization than we realize.

    That is interesting, I did not know this about Hatton. Ra also had a difficult existence when in 3D.

    Thanks goes to rva_jeremy for finding the Hatonn origin story and making a thread about it. Here's a link to the L/L channeling with it. Here's the relevant part:

    Quote:Sunday Meditation

    November 16, 1980
    (Unknown channeling)
    Tonight we have been successful in contacting a new instrument and we are pleased that he was going to step out on his faith. We of Hatonn are willing to adjust our being if it is difficult to discern for this instrument. We will pause for this purpose. I am Hatonn.
    (Pause)

    I am Hatonn, and I am again with you. We have adjusted our being and we feel that we are more closely aligned with this instrument. At this time, we would like to share with you a story of our past.
    At one time, we of Hatonn were a warlike nation in that, although united as one planet, we were divided into many sects that strove to dominate or control the planet. We chose to combat one another in our efforts to achieve this control, however, none were able to dominate and all were weakened by the struggle. Finally a point was reached in which we of Hatonn were destitute. We had destroyed all of the resources that our planet had to offer and were unable to kill one another simply because we no longer possessed the raw materials from which to construct further weaponry. At this point, we had also destroyed our food chain and were near starvation. In many ways we were, at that time, very similar to you as your planet is today, fixed upon oblivion.

    We discovered that our survival as a priority superseded all other priorities and that the requirements for survival became very obvious: regard each man or woman as one’s own brother and share with that brother as you would with your wife or husband or child. Our decimation became, in this manner, our strength. In our choice, in our choosing to reduce our planet’s ability to support life, we inadvertently chose a very strenuously spiritual path, that of loving through forced sharing. Perhaps this may not sound very spiritual to those listening to our words, however, then we learned that sharing was more valuable than surviving. We obtained a vibration level that enabled us to both sustain our bodies and at the same time, progress beyond physical needs.

    We share this story with you not in pride, obviously, but in encouragement. Small though your numbers may be, those of you who have grown beyond your brothers in your desire to love and share will be able in destitution and poverty and in starvation to mold and guide the growth of your race but only if you keep faith with your feelings. We feel that it is necessary to encourage you at this point because the time draws near when your strengths will be called upon and tested severely. Many of those strengths in many of you are already being tested at this time.

    We love you in the manner of brothers who can only watch and encourage and advise you as you grow and we desire that your growth be rapid and as painless as is possible. However, what you call growing pains will occur and are occurring now that you may adapt yourselves to the experience of pain without taking the pain within and clinging to it as one would a valuable jewel or possession. All things pass, as will your pains even if they pass as a result of your death on the physical plane. Do not let this death or these pains worry you. They are merely tools with which the universe shapes the final product which you so desire to become. I am Hatonn.

    -----

    Now that I reread it, it sounds pretty intense: "We destroyed our food chain and were near starvation...We discovered that our survival as a priority superseded all other priorities and that the requirements for survival became very obvious: regard each man or woman as one's own brother...We obtained a vibration level that enabled us to both sustain our bodies and at the same time, progress beyond physical needs." 

    Maybe all's well that ends well, even if the learning involves some catastrophic war that ends millions or billions of lives? After all, our souls are eternal, so this is just one big physical reality simulation, at some level. Don't know if I 'feel' I agree with the logic of these last few sentences, but I 'think' I agree with them.
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    05-01-2018, 11:17 PM
    Every creature seeks to receive. The personality is a projection of this desire. How the catalytic influences are structured is done thru polarity. The mind contains all things. Yet may only may see thru the body. 'Harvestibility' is the degree to which one has choosen to structure (thru polarity) the love and light of the creator. The choice to love and the will to seek are the only tools, else is simply a resource (light).

    The practicality of polarization is determined by these tools and a intentful utilization of available resources.

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    05-02-2018, 12:59 AM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2018, 01:03 AM by loostudent.)
    (04-30-2018, 09:58 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Is it STS to pray to want to be more compassionate when you serve others? Like let's say you serve at a soup kitchen, but don't really feel it. But you really want to. Could you work on feeling it?

    I have a profession and a job that seems unfit for me. I asked myself many times how to go on. Is there something to learn or am I wasting my time and energy? What about my gifts? Recently I've realized what could be a way out (see quote below) but it's complicated because I have responsibility for my family ...

    Maybe you could try different ways of service and better know and accept yourself and so discover what kind of service suits you best. Maybe you are better at creating art works for people rather than kindly serving soup to the poor. Maybe you can share difficult experiences to help others ... Not everyone is born for the same service. You have to find a regular service right up your street. However some occasions also call for your different help and you can also be prepared for this if needed.

    I think it would be good to pray for guidance in getting to know who you are and why are you here - your shape. And if you're already doing the right service then be happy because you are blessed but you can pray for a heart of a servant to see peoples needs and be prepared to lend a helping hand in whatever task.

    Quote:While knowing your shape [the author used this word as an acronym - see blow] is important for serving God, having the heart of a servant is even more important. Remember, God shaped you for service, not for self-centeredness. Without a servant’s heart, you will be tempted to misuse your shape for personal gain. You will also be tempted to use it as an excuse to exempt yourself from meeting some needs.

    God often tests our hearts by asking us to serve in ways we’re not shaped. If you see a man fall into a ditch, God expects you to help him out, not say, “I don’t have the gift of mercy or service.” While you may not be gifted for a particular task, you may be called to do it if no one gifted at it is around. Your primary ministry should be in the area of your shape, but your secondary service is wherever you’re needed at the moment. Your shape reveals your ministry, but your servant’s heart will reveal your maturity. No special talent or gift is required to stay after a meeting to pick up trash or stack chairs. Anyone can be a servant. All it requires is character /.../

    Servants are always on the lookout for ways to help others. When they see a need, they seize the moment to meet it /.../ The size of the task is irrelevant /.../ Jesus specialized in menial tasks that everyone else tried to avoid: washing feet, helping children, fixing breakfast, and serving lepers /.../ Small tasks often show a big heart /.../ No task is beneath you when you have a servant’s heart.

    The shape acronym:

    Spiritual gifts
    Heart
    Abilities
    Personality
    Experience

    (R. Warren: The Purpose-Driven Life)

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    05-02-2018, 04:50 PM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2018, 05:22 PM by Infinite Unity.)
    (04-27-2018, 07:24 PM)cel Wrote: Carla Rueckert in Living the Law of One for STO provides the shining examples of the Peace Pilgrim and MLK (pages 82-87).  Being supremely peaceful with the intention of transforming society locally (nay, globally) you can achieve by striving as best you can to demonstrate and share the ultimate peaceful, loving state of being.


    Some kind souls in this world volunteer their time by feeding the poor and ministering to the sick. You could call these acts by individuals as literally “serving” or helping “others”, because these are both examples of loving kindness and charity.  But “chartity” is not what Ra means when s/he strictly refers to STO.  STO to Ra means causing another lost soul to remember his or her true origin as a being of Radiant Light. Graduation through STO means helping at least one other lost soul reach mystical union with the Creator, even if for a few fleeting moments. The temporary mystical experience - - feeling the Creator’s love flow inside, around and through you - - is a unique, special privilege. Such individual transcendence is indicative of success, in terms of graduation from 3rd to 4th Density. This is the whole purpose of human existence on this blue-green orb.  

    In comparison, spending time at a soup kitchen is by itself strictly not STO. Is this correct? 

    What about alleviating suffering through other means like perhaps by practicing “Reiki”?  Is this by itself what Ra is referring to as STO or not? 

    I question whether Ra means healing suffering (Reiki or any other modality) as a true path to graduation because graduation involves so much more than reducing someone else’s pain.  Ra’s STO path involves helping or inspiring in someone else to “open to intelligent infinity”(17.2)  Reducing someone else’s material suffering on a grand scale or tiny scale is not the experience of Enlightenment that Ra describes that leads to graduation. Am I right?

    Can someone please verify my understanding here and provide some clarity?

    L.V.X

    ahh the hallmark of 3rd density, confusion. The reduction in catalyst for another is inefficient form of learning for the self. Both "Parties" are effected, as You can not learn for another self, but inspire them to take up the baton. Each moment, and energetic exchange through potential opens many doorways. As each nexus and energy exchange there lay among the seeming infinitude of doorways a doorway or portal, known as the now. This portal is the lost island that you can only navigate to if you know where it is, as its location is not found on charts.The moment that you decide to enter this portal and enter the now, is called the choice. As Time itself is an aspect of The Will.

    The reduction in pain you speak of is a "symptom" or resulting reduction within "your own" universe or system/mind. Peoples choices only reflect an inner state. Choices or seeming outcomes can only be changed, when the inner realms change. The pain you see, pours from within. You becoming more balanced, and achieving higher states of being, or flow of infinite energy/infinite intelligence, will then be what you see, as your outer realm.

    So in my opinion there are beneficial ways of helping other beings, most readily coming to mind for me, is the lighthouse or beacon of love and inspiration. Or what the bible speaks of as a witness. Or more mundanely if what you plan on doing or giving is only going to incline them more towards ignoring the deep true self, and handicapping there ability to learn. Then you should not. If your help is like a gust of wind across a hot mans face, along a long journey. And that sweet coolness allows him or rises his will/desire to continue. Then yes. However, it seems to me. that you will know when it is time for you to step up. The universe has a way of calling our names. When its show time.

    Also spoken language is inherently apart of the veil on Earth. The vibrational nature, and how it is programmed within the mind, it is one of the causalities of the mind/body/spirit to be out of synch with one another. The three causalities form an aspect of the veil which offers us confusion. Or infinite interlaid memories/data, through forming conduits or transmission channels for the data to be sent. Or in other words, our intelligence is a thought form. Developed and designed a product to exist. Everything you see here, how we term things, would be/ is a product. Its designed, made, built, created. The portal I speak of above, takes you to where these products are birthed/created. Your own inner perception until you reach green ray, can only use already made products. When green ray is achieved, the ability to create products is achieved, and the magician/warlock has the potential to create products/thought forms. The ability at yellow ray, is to be able to focus the compass, and sail these products/thoughts. and the ability at any ray, given perameters, is to learn. As all things are Infinite Intelligence, and I think the nature of Infinite Intelligence is the unlimited ability to learn.
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    05-02-2018, 05:54 PM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2018, 05:55 PM by rva_jeremy.)
    Thanks for explaining your thinking on thoughts, heh, John. You appear to be drawing a distinction between our deeper beliefs or habits of mind and our more surface, conscious thoughts. This is an interesting angle I hadn't considered.

    Let me see if I am getting what you're saying: your point is that we can't simply consciously think ourselves to polarization; it comes from taking a thorough inventory of our beliefs, values, and perhaps what those of Ra call biases. Thoughts, though an element of the mind and the polarization process, are more a product of underlying beliefs and biases than themselves the drivers of polarization. Do I have that right?

    I think that's very insightful. So what, in your opinion, is the role of our day-to-day conscious thinking? If we can't think our way to polarization, towards what ought we think?
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    05-02-2018, 06:15 PM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2018, 06:23 PM by JJCarsonian.)
    (05-02-2018, 05:54 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: Thanks for explaining your thinking on thoughts, heh, John. You appear to be drawing a distinction between our deeper beliefs or habits of mind and our more surface, conscious thoughts. This is an interesting angle I hadn't considered.

    Let me see if I am getting what you're saying: your point is that we can't simply consciously think ourselves to polarization; it comes from taking a thorough inventory of our beliefs, values, and perhaps what those of Ra call biases. Thoughts, though an element of the mind and the polarization process, are more a product of underlying beliefs and biases than themselves the drivers of polarization. Do I have that right?

    I think that's very insightful. So what, in your opinion, is the role of our day-to-day conscious thinking? If we can't think our way to polarization, towards what ought we think?

    BINGO!

    Thoughts are good for combing through each aspect until we approach the deep rooted 'distortion' (coined by Ra) that needs to be examined.

    Example
    -"Why am I mad?"
    -"I'm mad because the car cut in front of me!"
    -"Why am i angry at that?"
    -"I'm in a rush to get to work and that car slows me down!"
    -"Will it really impact my time that much?"
    -"No it wont! Gosh darnit, then thats a stupid reason to be mad!!" ****Chakra slowly opens*******

    First time i came across Near Death Experience case studies and Law of One material, i could feel my Chakras opening and my entire perspective changing.

    You've heard of people going through hypnosis to rid themselves of cigarette addiction? They are essentially reprogramming the deep rooted mind (so i'm guessing).
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    05-02-2018, 07:09 PM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2018, 07:09 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    John, today I felt my heart chakra open a little more, and felt some bliss that lasted like a minute in the heart. It happened while I was meditating, and when I had just awoken from a nap. So I think we may reach a point where we can feel that bliss almost all the time. It's happening more than it used to. It's not overpowering, but pleasant.

    So that's another benefit of opening the chakras, and being in the flow.
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    05-02-2018, 07:51 PM
    (05-02-2018, 07:09 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: John, today I felt my heart chakra open a little more, and felt some bliss that lasted like a minute in the heart. It happened while I was meditating, and when I had just awoken from a nap. So I think we may reach a point where we can feel that bliss almost all the time. It's happening more than it used to. It's not overpowering, but pleasant.

    So that's another benefit of opening the chakras, and being in the flow.

    i would defnitely love having that experience all the time Wink thats probably what i'm yearning for...

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    05-03-2018, 06:37 AM
    When viewing Service to Others, I resonate with this paragraph in the channeling session of The Law of One.


    Quote:10.14 Questioner: For general development [of the] reader of this book, could you state some of the practices or exercises to perform to produce an acceleration toward the Law of One?

    Ra: I am Ra.

    Exercise One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously seek that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking powers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.

    Exercise Two. The universe is one being. When a mind/body/spirit complex views another mind/body/spirit complex, see the Creator. This is an helpful exercise.

    Exercise Three. Gaze within a mirror. See the Creator.

    Exercise Four. Gaze at the creation which lies about the mind/body/spirit complex of each entity. See the Creator.

    The foundation or prerequisite of these exercises is a predilection towards what may be called meditation, contemplation, or prayer. With this attitude, these exercises can be processed. Without it, the data will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit.
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    05-03-2018, 11:54 AM
    (05-02-2018, 06:15 PM)johncarson698 Wrote: Thoughts are good for combing through each aspect until we approach the deep rooted 'distortion' (coined by Ra) that needs to be examined.

    I think there's definitely value in separating beliefs from the more discursive or pragmatic thoughts that occur within one.

    I know that's something Jim McCarty talked about at homecoming 2015 that really stuck with me. He described how he would also play hypothetical, imagined future interactions with people in his head as he was working, and they were almost always confrontational or oppositional encounters. I do the same thing, so I really sympathized. He went on to say that he got tired of this, so he just started singing "hallelujah" when he'd work, over and over, and how this totally changed his entire mindset and emotional condition.

    So that doesn't perfectly map onto the utility of thought alone as a way to examine distortions and biases, but it does show how taking direct charge of our thinking -- mindfulness, in a way -- is very important to allowing new frequencies of life to filter through our mind complex. Like most people, I imagine, I feel more run by my thoughts than that I think them expressly. Meditation has started to slow me down enough to see what's going on, which is both a blessing and a tremendous responsibility!

    Your point, John, about using conscious thought in self-examination raises an interesting point: the responsible use of conscious thought in every other situation! What about those day-to-day thoughts?
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    05-03-2018, 12:48 PM
    (05-03-2018, 11:54 AM)rva_jeremy Wrote: I think there's definitely value in separating beliefs from the more discursive or pragmatic thoughts that occur within one.

    I know that's something Jim McCarty talked about at homecoming 2015 that really stuck with me. He described how he would also play hypothetical, imagined future interactions with people in his head as he was working, and they were almost always confrontational or oppositional encounters. I do the same thing, so I really sympathized. He went on to say that he got tired of this, so he just started singing "hallelujah" when he'd work, over and over, and how this totally changed his entire mindset and emotional condition.

    So that doesn't perfectly map onto the utility of thought alone as a way to examine distortions and biases, but it does show how taking direct charge of our thinking -- mindfulness, in a way -- is very important to allowing new frequencies of life to filter through our mind complex. Like most people,  I imagine, I feel more run by my thoughts than that I think them expressly. Meditation has started to slow me down enough to see what's going on, which is both a blessing and a tremendous responsibility!

    Hi Jeremy!

    You are correct, there are many ways to use thoughts. I think you and Sprout (His post just above) eluded to another way of using thoughts.

    If you tell yourself "I am superman" over and over again, you may end up believing it. Your thoughts could eventually seep into the deep root of mind and make a change. A powerful thought/epiphany/realization/enlightenment can make an instant change. I guess this is how brainwashing is done in POW camps.

    This is not just with your thoughts, but with any thought, words, messages, advertisements, etc.. Companies spend trillions of dollars on advertising every year - i'm sure they understand this aspect about the human psyche.

    I'm imagining the mind with a thick layer of soil on top. lets say that water represents information (thoughts, words, messages, etc). You sprinkle a little water, and the water never penetrates the soil. You flood the soil with water, and it eventually reaches the mind.

    (05-03-2018, 11:54 AM)rva_jeremy Wrote: Your point, John, about using conscious thought in self-examination raises an interesting point: the responsible use of conscious thought in every other situation! What about those day-to-day thoughts?

    What do you mean by day-to-day thoughts?
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    05-03-2018, 01:05 PM
    By "day-to-day" thoughts, I mean the kind of thinking we normally do consciously. I mean, can we be in a constant state of self-reflection? I suppose that's the premise of my question -- that we can't.
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    (05-03-2018, 01:05 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: By "day-to-day" thoughts, I mean the kind of thinking we normally do consciously. I mean, can we be in a constant state of self-reflection? I suppose that's the premise of my question -- that we can't.

    Ah ok.. My personal opinion is that it would be almost impossible to be in a constant state of self reflection. I guess you can come close if you decided to abandon society and join a monk or Buddhist group.

    Majority of my thoughts on most days are consumed with survival. Right now, i'm trying to design a monitoring plan for a pilot we are running so that we can analyze the impact between the test/control groups. I doubt thats going to help my polarize

    When i'm not working, i'm taking care of the kids. The only time i have to ponder & think is on the drive in/home from work and then when i'm doing tasks around the house. During these times, i actually put on the earphones and listen to Law of One discussions lol..

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    05-03-2018, 10:34 PM
    Quote:I agree, i think this is a pretty good theory, although i think most 3rd density life has this type mechanism.  I'm thinking low harvest is due to a combination of a couple things
    -this planet has a mix of souls at different levels of development.  You have those of Maldek and Mars, who destroyed their worlds due to bellicosity (So this was a bad start) and was at stage 3.3 or 3.4 in development, and then you have the primitive Ape man that originated from 2nd densitiy who is at 3.1,  then you have souls from other star systems who may be positive or negative that range from 3.3 to 3.7.

    Mars bodies did not reproduce. Reproducing bodies were Earth's. Genetic manipulation applied to all 3d ape-like bodies, so the sub logos is not totally responsible for what it was going to come. Souls reincarnation is different (3.0, 3.1 etc etc if you want to number sub densities). Reincarnated souls reincarnated in 3d ape bodies as appropriate. Melanin is the single most differentiator of so called ape bodies with blond blue eyed ape bodies having less melanin and possibly other forms of adaptation according to latitudes. A 3.9999 3D soul can reincarnate in Nigeria or in Sweden or in China. Same for 3.1. Same for double activated transitional 4d souls. Maldek souls (at the beginning), reincarnated way before 3d was available in ape 2d bodies due to karmic balance. Currently, at the end of the cycle and with so many billions of souls any soul will reincarnate where it should (or can), that is a Denebian won't reincarnate in China region necessarily, it might well be in Brazil, for example.

    The 150 harvestable entities at the end of second cycle were in my opinion, most likely local souls, an isolated South American group.

    Quote:-From what i've read, Earth has a level of Free Will that no other planet has, due to the veil.  Back in Atlantean times, they had telepathic awareness... Think about if we can hear each other's thoughts.  Then it would be difficult to hide our true intentions.  We would polarize much faster as a society.  The fact that veil was strengthened to give rise to speech probably was a big impact

    Don't recall the material talking about Atlantis and 3d entities able to communicate telepathically instead of speech. Can you provide the link?
    The speech issue was mostly due to the genetics implemented by the so called one of the Guardians (later losing their name) at the beginning of the 3d. Sub logos implemented the opposable thumb.

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    05-04-2018, 09:54 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2018, 09:55 AM by JJCarsonian.)
    (05-03-2018, 10:34 PM)crimson Wrote: Mars bodies did not reproduce.  Reproducing bodies were Earth's.  Genetic manipulation applied to all 3d ape-like bodies, so the sub logos is not totally responsible for what it was going to come.  Souls reincarnation is different (3.0, 3.1 etc etc if you want to number sub densities).  Reincarnated  souls reincarnated in 3d ape bodies as appropriate.  Melanin is the single most differentiator of so called ape bodies with blond blue eyed ape bodies having less melanin and possibly other forms of adaptation according to latitudes.  A 3.9999 3D soul can reincarnate in Nigeria or in Sweden or in China.  Same for 3.1.  Same for double activated transitional 4d souls.  Maldek souls (at the beginning), reincarnated way before 3d was available in ape 2d bodies due to karmic balance.  Currently, at the end of the cycle and with so many billions of souls any soul will reincarnate where it should (or can), that is a Denebian won't reincarnate in China region necessarily, it might well be in Brazil, for example.  

    I guess my main point was that most planets evolve at the same rate, with like-minded & polarized souls in a contiguous progression. Because Earth was a mixed bag (Souls @ different stages of evolution, souls @ different polarization), this has hindered development. I've read from many sources that there is a test going on to see if this type of thing works.

    (05-03-2018, 10:34 PM)crimson Wrote: Don't recall the material talking about Atlantis and 3d entities able to communicate telepathically instead of speech.  Can you provide the link?
    The speech issue was mostly due to the genetics implemented by the so called one of the Guardians (later losing their name) at the beginning of the 3d.  Sub logos implemented the opposable thumb.

    Its not in the Ra material, but its something that i came across in countless materials. Atlanteans was at a high spiritual development. At one point, Ra refrains from teaching other methods of crystals, because you can actually create life with it. Atlanteans did this, by creating the likes of mythical creatures like the centaurs and many more that we've never heard of, just by focusing intelligent energy.

    I do think the lost of telepathy helps folks hide their true intentions. You also experience true separation, too. Its hard to become unified if thats the case. Thats why 4th density is much more harmonious for Positive beings.

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