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    Thread: Thoughts and actions create reality


    ScottK (Offline)

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    #1
    12-24-2012, 09:56 AM
    So, in the great mystery of the creation, we all remain here. The illusion seemingly stays the same. We don't know what happened on 12/21/12, nor should we. We were sent here to clean up a world in shambles, and to create a new reality.

    The coming days will allow those folks who have ideas to change our reality to something better, to actually change it. The bad guys are crumbling, and the good guys are coming on with not only positiveness, but real money too.

    How will you change the world? How will WE change the world? Think BIG.
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    12-24-2012, 11:18 AM
    That does seem to be the general narrative from the perspective of those using the 'shift' idea as a catalyst for introducing desired change. It's almost a form of cargo cult idealism, where somehow something is now being offered which can be leveraged by framing conditions in a certain way. For example the notion of positives taking over and negatives being on the run.

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    12-24-2012, 12:01 PM
    (12-24-2012, 11:18 AM)zenmaster Wrote: That does seem to be the general narrative from the perspective of those using the 'shift' idea as a catalyst for introducing desired change. It's almost a form of cargo cult idealism, where somehow something is now being offered which can be leveraged by framing conditions in a certain way. For example the notion of positives taking over and negatives being on the run.

    Hi there Zenmaster..

    Perhaps, but as someone who is, let's just say, close to the action, I can say comfortably that this will happen. Your choice on whether you believe me or not.

    Our reality is going to be fixed step by step - no one will be waving any magic wands to fix anything, though, very soon, big events in the financial system WILL begin to happen.

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    #4
    12-24-2012, 01:13 PM
    It is not Exactly a Gift You Know
    December 23rd, 2012
    Michael as channeled through Ron Head


    Michael

    We come once again to congratulate you for the passing of another significant marker, the most significant one ever, as a matter of fact. It went amazingly well.

    Oh yes, there were a great number of very surprised people. Some were surprised by what has happened. Most were surprised by what appeared not to have happened. At least the fearful are appreciative that the doom and gloom prophets were wrong, as we told you.

    It is as we foretold, my friends. You heard us say many times that the biggest change ever would occur in your energetic being, and that of Earth and all its creatures. You understood this, and yet you held on to expectations of much more. Yes, we did speak many times of much more, and we tell you now, these things are coming. They are coming because now you are equipped to see to it. You are able. You are capable. You will discover that you know how. There is a very great deal for you to discover now about yourselves. But that will be fun, don’t you think? Fun and amazing.

    Nothing of it should take you by surprise. It is all ancient knowledge. But it is ancient knowledge long dormant and only half believed. You still see, hear, and feel the remnants of third dimensional thought and belief. It may take some little time for you to allow that to fade away and for you to ‘test your wings’, as it were.

    Almost all of you are feeling, when you allow yourself to feel, something rather new about yourselves. Many are describing to each other surprising and diverse experiences and feelings. This continues to happen, and will for quite some time. It is not exactly a gift you know. It is the being you have always been, just with the wrapper removed. Find it. Dig it out. Examine it. Play with it. You now have all the eternity you need to relearn how to use it. Have fun.

    There are still vast amounts of energetic change on the way. Your twenty twelve is not quite over.

    We will speak again soon. Good day.
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    12-24-2012, 02:59 PM
    Greetings Scott, and welcome.

    (12-24-2012, 09:56 AM)ScottK Wrote: So, in the great mystery of the creation, we all remain here. The illusion seemingly stays the same. We don't know what happened on 12/21/12, nor should we.

    Oh, but we do know what happened on 12/21/12! The same thing that happens every other day since immemorial times: change, growth, learning, progression, spiritual development, soul evolution. This planet is simply now at that crux point in which a new "age," a new cycle, is begun; the next quantum leap in evolution, if you will. That is the only difference between now and, say, 4,000 years ago: the transition into a new experiential paradigm of reality has been commenced.

    And yes, we remain here! You didn't think 3rd-density was spontaneously going to black out and 4th-density was going to come in with a sudden flash of light, did you? Recall your 2nd-density to 3rd-density transition: it was a gradual (but rapid) process. So is this one.

    Quote:The coming days will allow those folks who have ideas to change our reality to something better, to actually change it. The bad guys are crumbling, and the good guys are coming on with not only positiveness, but real money too.

    Although I agree with the premise of incredibly rapid change/transformation up ahead; I must disagree with your assumption in there being "bad guys" and "good guys." You are counting/judging mind/body/spirit complexes by one incarnation/role alone. There is infinitely more than that behind every 3rd-density mask.

    Quote:How will you change the world? How will WE change the world? Think BIG.

    I Am.

    I don't really expect to change anything, but simply live/love/enjoy my/our journey. When one flows with the flow, so to speak, change is the most natural and inevitable and effortless thing. That is me, personally and subjectively. Other-selves in 3rd-density may become "social activists" and engage in civil protests, throwing tantrums and "making noise" in an attempt to change their socio-economical politico-governmental system. There are ways and there are ways. All are viable choices. We learn through experience. All is well.
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    #6
    12-24-2012, 03:56 PM
    Re: Channeling. I am wary of vague promises of future oriented expectations and self-congratulating messages. This is what creates the condition for unfulfilled expectation and disappointment/anger. Let's go deeper than that and go beyond this type of message. What pulls you, attracts you to this type of message? What do you desire? What healing/development are you looking for?

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    12-24-2012, 08:45 PM
    Hi Siren,

    Indeed, service comes in many forms and we all choose freely the manner of our service.

    With my query, I was seeking those who do have ideas on how to be of service to many other selves - those who have a strong desire to help others in tangible ways, who have an idea, and who may not feel empowered to implement their idea at the current time. A time is coming when their ideas may be implemented in this physical reality illusion in order to bring more fun, happiness, love, and peace to our world.

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    12-24-2012, 09:27 PM (This post was last modified: 12-24-2012, 09:28 PM by Turtle.)
    (12-24-2012, 08:45 PM)ScottK Wrote: Hi Siren,

    Indeed, service comes in many forms and we all choose freely the manner of our service.

    With my query, I was seeking those who do have ideas on how to be of service to many other selves - those who have a strong desire to help others in tangible ways, who have an idea, and who may not feel empowered to implement their idea at the current time. A time is coming when their ideas may be implemented in this physical reality illusion in order to bring more fun, happiness, love, and peace to our world.

    Comment on the words I put in bold...

    That time you speak of, whether vague or specific, is not worth waiting for. Waiting for a future date to do what you feel called to do is not necessary in my opinion. Whatever you can do, each and every day, that involves your calling, whether it's one thing or several, then simply do it with joy and repeat the process until you pass away!

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    12-25-2012, 02:03 AM
    (12-24-2012, 12:01 PM)ScottK Wrote:
    (12-24-2012, 11:18 AM)zenmaster Wrote: That does seem to be the general narrative from the perspective of those using the 'shift' idea as a catalyst for introducing desired change. It's almost a form of cargo cult idealism, where somehow something is now being offered which can be leveraged by framing conditions in a certain way. For example the notion of positives taking over and negatives being on the run.

    Hi there Zenmaster..

    Perhaps, but as someone who is, let's just say, close to the action, I can say comfortably that this will happen. Your choice on whether you believe me or not.

    Our reality is going to be fixed step by step - no one will be waving any magic wands to fix anything, though, very soon, big events in the financial system WILL begin to happen.
    Oh another 'insider'.

    "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." Rahm Emanuel

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    12-25-2012, 02:25 AM
    (12-24-2012, 09:27 PM)Turtle Wrote:
    (12-24-2012, 08:45 PM)ScottK Wrote: Hi Siren,

    Indeed, service comes in many forms and we all choose freely the manner of our service.

    With my query, I was seeking those who do have ideas on how to be of service to many other selves - those who have a strong desire to help others in tangible ways, who have an idea, and who may not feel empowered to implement their idea at the current time. A time is coming when their ideas may be implemented in this physical reality illusion in order to bring more fun, happiness, love, and peace to our world.

    Comment on the words I put in bold...

    That time you speak of, whether vague or specific, is not worth waiting for. Waiting for a future date to do what you feel called to do is not necessary in my opinion. Whatever you can do, each and every day, that involves your calling, whether it's one thing or several, then simply do it with joy and repeat the process until you pass away!

    Ah, although we can live our dreams day by day oftentimes we are still removed from them here due to time. This can be alleviated by sharing our dreams as the more people that dream the same thing will actively be manifesting it much faster.

    So, if you walk around holding your light strongly on the inside but do not share it with those around you, you are effectively limiting the manifestation of your dreams.

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    12-25-2012, 04:08 AM
    What positive goals should we be striving for, zenmaster? I hear you criticize a lot of positive ideas, no matter how fanciful they may feel (some not so fanciful). Should we just want to sit back and let stuff that is in our control (to some degree) just happen and continue to get worse? How long are we going to sit back and let the elite play with our lives and the financial system via slavery through consumerism (over 70% of our economy is based on consumerism)? Do you thing this world has to be this negative for it to be normal for you? Are all the positive changes meant to happen after you're long dead and buried of old age?
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    12-25-2012, 05:00 AM
    (12-25-2012, 02:03 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Oh another 'insider'.

    "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." Rahm Emanuel

    I've merely put myself in a position to help, and then followed through. That seems to get you a bit more knowledge. Don't worry, I won't be muddying the waters with what I know. Loose lips sink ships is the old saying.

    We've been psy-op'ed into believing that there is a hero that's going to all of a sudden show up and solve our problems for us, and also, mankind has been quite effectively divided along every conceivable line. The real power of the creation is in many people working together to create. I kinda would like to hear the the ideas of those who wish to create.
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    12-25-2012, 10:07 AM
    (12-25-2012, 04:08 AM)Parsons Wrote: What positive goals should we be striving for, zenmaster? I hear you criticize a lot of positive ideas, no matter how fanciful they may feel (some not so fanciful). Should we just want to sit back and let stuff that is in our control (to some degree) just happen and continue to get worse? How long are we going to sit back and let the elite play with our lives and the financial system via slavery through consumerism (over 70% of our economy is based on consumerism)? Do you thing this world has to be this negative for it to be normal for you? Are all the positive changes meant to happen after you're long dead and buried of old age?

    If you haven't noticed, the OP calls for waiting for a future time where change would be allowed. Yet more of the incipient change on the horizon meme. No thought provided for solutions. No thought of yours provided solutions. Continue bitching about your lack of freedom, framing separation, shoulds and should nots. Keep asking yourself those questions, and maybe someday you will bother to answer them for yourself. The only 'slavery' is due to lack of responsibility. This is how it 'should be' so that you may eventually learn to take it. It's actually a gracious allowance of which you may one day be thankful.

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    12-25-2012, 11:22 AM (This post was last modified: 12-25-2012, 11:25 AM by xise.)
    Since we're on the idea of solutions, just wanted to say:

    I for one think we have seen some pretty big positive things recently embraced here in the US: the idea of health care as a basic human right (whether or not you agree with the incarnation of Obamacare). I think we've also made great strides in racial equality.

    Things I hope to see change in the future that I only really talk about (but then again, my friends are people who have some sort of power so hopefully there is a percolation of ideas):
    1) change into a currency backed by something tangible, such as a precious metal or an assortment of commodities.
    2) realization that free market is the most efficient system, but there are values more important than efficiency such as equality between people which requires heavy regulation/limitation on the powers of certain companies and financial institutions, such as banks.
    3) Move away from allowing unlimited corporate money into campaigns, by basically accepting that money is a force multipler in all situations and should be removed from political equations where we believe in one person, one voice, one vote.
    4) A fundamental acceptance of the principle that prevention is the best approach in all situations, but in particular as applied to crime. As such, regarding crime, in areas of high crime more money would be spent on addressing the socieoecnomic/educational issues that play a large role, in addition to increasing police and prison funding.

    Certainly these ideas are focused on financial issues, but those are the ones that I've been thinking about lately and frankly I do think we may just see positive change on them in our lifetime.
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    12-25-2012, 12:23 PM
    (12-25-2012, 05:00 AM)ScottK Wrote: We've been psy-op'ed into believing that there is a hero that's going to all of a sudden show up and solve our problems for us, and also, mankind has been quite effectively divided along every conceivable line. The real power of the creation is in many people working together to create. I kinda would like to hear the the ideas of those who wish to create.

    I think problem formulation is critical in order to undersand social change. When we talk about a 'power' out there, that seems like a disconnection between society and self. Social change is about changes in human consciousness. I remember a saying that goes - we cannot solve problems at the same level of consciousness that created the problem in the first place. Some talk about increased complexities in our thinking that leads to a more complex, advanced way of being as a society.

    My hypothesis is that we get stuck on the 'us vs them' way of thinking. In order to go beyond that perhaps we need to recognize that we are all one. External world mirrors our internal world. Therefore, the solution is to take personal responsibility to doing our own internal work. Personal responsibility and accountability will eventually lead to changes that mirror a society that is in alignment with those values.

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    12-25-2012, 12:43 PM (This post was last modified: 12-25-2012, 12:55 PM by Spaced.)
    I think the only world you can really change is the one inside your head. At that point all you can do is radiate the wisdom and peace you have found inside yourself and hope it inspires others to change their world. Enough people do that and it will reflect in our consensus reality. There is no time in which to do this other than right now.

    That's my view at least.

    Also I'm not into the good/bad dichotomy. I see the two polarities as almost cooperating to help each other evolve. It's a game, a dance.
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    12-27-2012, 07:38 AM (This post was last modified: 12-27-2012, 07:53 AM by norral.)
    jobs, jobs, jobs !!

    there is a ton of work needing to be done in america. upgrading the bridges , roads, tunnels. and we have over 1000 bases around the world. the american empire needs to contract, bring troops home to work on our infrastructure for one.
    our transit system needs to be improved. i work for nyc transit. the equipment and the stations need to be upgraded. better lighting, better security, better information available for commuters.
    our voting system needs to be overhauled. make it so people can vote over the internet. huge task there

    bring high speed internet to every home in the country . every place a person lives lets have high speed internet.
    our postal system needs to be revamped.

    there are a huge number of needs right here right now. if money was allocated for these things it would create a resurgence in our system. when people are working and productive everyone is happier.

    and the minimum wage needs to be raised to 10 bucks an hour absolutely.

    so there are some choices. for allocation of resources. and that is just the start of ideas. that doesnt even approach the spiritual side of life. how can we spiritualize this country. i have some ideas. it needs to be done . to assist the conciousness of people to move into a unity conciousness. the mass media needs to be broadcasting positive things not murders. now that is an area i would be interested in if the op occurred.

    and the entertainment industry. the music industry , the rappers the heavy metal, all of this needs to be changed to send a positive message to children and young people. there are a zillion changed that could be made if groups were formed to appeal to people.

    norral Heart

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    01-11-2013, 10:18 PM
    Scott, are you looking for business ideas? Are you part of an investment group? What's up?

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