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    Thread: Can healing be done by STS adept?


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    #31
    07-17-2013, 04:51 AM
    (07-16-2013, 02:24 PM)Seeker of the One Wrote: The question is about positive/negative polarity that is a thread I cannot untangle. I am on my way to be polarized but I therefore realize that I can't accept the hypothesis of me being the One with another selves, so that I divide myself from others.

    Why? From polarity its a non-sequitor to say you cant accept the hypothesis. You cant live in the knowledge of the hypothesis accuracy at all times without transforming the concept of humans / all objects that move into the concept of the co-creator and therefore turn into a self and co-creator self with no other selves anywhere perceptible as they are all made by your "other self."

    So. You can accept that you are "one" with other selves in a very real very tangible way. To do as I just wrote is to polarize towards the negative extremely strongly but is in no way "impossible" or something that "cant" be done. I don't necessarily recommend you follow what I wrote but as you said you are in a tangle I felt the best way to approach that is to break a random line of logic that I see as being faulty and let you work from there.

    Quote:BUT this concers only OTHER HUMAN BEINGS. I can easily understand that I love animals, trees, whatever. But when I look at another human beings I feel some kind of disgust like "They are not the same as me. I am not the same as them. I am not they. They are not I."
    Is this a necessity to see the One Infinite Creator in Others if you are going the way of negative polarity?

    Seeing or not seeing the one infinite creator in others is not necessarily here or there in terms of 3rd to 4th D polarity. Once in 4th D your question would lose all cohesion and go "ahh, this is feels so simple I cant ask it because I already feel I know the answer" effect.

    It is a necessary step in higher terms of polarity to be able to see and understand that others are the one infinite creator as well. But for now it may not be what you want to see, nor may it be what you should see, so I dont comment on it, only to say that in terms of polarity to attain "Harvest" I have found it to be exceptionally difficult to find a distortion that actually prevents "harvest" on account of me going back and forth between the density line and constantly picking new distortions and dropping them to test how easy it is to rise from "different points of view of assumption what reality is" and I've yet to find something that actively prevents "Harvest". But I have found distortions that make it more and less difficult, what you are describing makes it more difficult but not impossible, once again.

    Now I have noticed that you have made 2 errors.

    Both of which are rounding errors, let me demonstrate.

    If I drop a ball at the floor, it will hit the floor, but not always. It may hit it every single time every single human being ever tries dropping a ball on the floor, but nothing is to say that gravity cant randomly flip. Who knows, maybe a mad scientist drilled a bomb to the center of the Earth and just as you drop the ball it gets whisked away and never touches the floor. In that case it never does and you have to admit that it is a possibility that it exists. Therefore you can say that it is 99.9(near infinite 9's)% probable that the ball will touch the floor but you cant guarantee it. It is a small but not insignificant point.

    If you practice and focus on simply this, every time you think its impossible or that's how things work. Think to yourself that if that is more than 50% of the time things work, then it works, but mildly, and if its close to infinity, then it works, almost always.

    But there are exceptions, we're those exceptions.

    Quote:I cannot say I love others. I am more neutral/hatred to them in some kinds, seeing how they are destroying everything else around them, how they treat animals, how they treat the nature. I think I would easily kill the stupid children that are injuring animals and so on.

    Reflection, its not about them, its about what you could be doing but are preventing yourself from doing. You could free all the animals and prevent all the mistreatment of nature, but you are weak, and you are small, and you hate yourself for it.

    You shouldn't hate yourself for it, or them, you should just do what your little hands can do. And trust me, once you get to it, one person can do much more than you can ever imagine, ever.

    Its about your inability to stop the destruction of the planet, not their desire to destroy the planet. That's the real anger, and its at the self, not at the other self.

    Quote:I am more feeling that neutrality is the right way, not loving/hating others just for nothing but what they do deserve for.
    I then think that my minds and feelings lead me to Service-to-Self, not Service-To-Others. Where should I look for the Truth? How to come to realize what is right?

    I was thinking about this myself, back when people were referring to me as a black hole and so forth. And not in the mean way, just in that their 3rd eyes cant really see me. Long story.

    "If you are a high level STS and want "out." Realize that all around are actors in trying to be human. Your "failure" to be "good" is what they study. The attention is the same, but they study why you fail as humans. Because we all fail eventually, that's your way out of neg 4d and above. Get into neg 4, sin is easier, that's the lesson. But remember why it is resisted and why you return. Some believe they can't reform their 3d chemical from 4th density."

    If you are where I believe you are, this will make sense.

    In closing, healing ability is in no way restricted to polarity.
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    07-17-2013, 07:34 AM
    (07-17-2013, 02:41 AM)Adonai One Wrote: At the ends of the universe, does not absolute agony become absolute bliss? Does not the rubber-band effect apply? How does infinity perceive agony? It certainly does not deny it, does it?

    If you find the ends of infinity, you let me know. Smile

    No, it does not deny it, but it doesn't really endorse it either. Agony is perceived, that is that, whether this is made the focus of one's reality is up to whichever one is doing the focusing.

    We discover what we seek to perceive for the Creator allows all, provides all. Ask and you shall receive. Yet, there is no objective save the asking.
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    #33
    07-17-2013, 09:21 AM
    (07-17-2013, 04:51 AM)Not Sure Wrote: If you are where I believe you are, this will make sense.

    Thank you for you great advice and thoughts, I will be considering it today's evening while being on the seaside and reply with my conclusions concerning this questions needed to be answered by myself.
    Everyone has written here a lot that need to be thought out more deeply.
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    #34
    07-18-2013, 03:39 AM
    (07-16-2013, 02:24 PM)Seeker of the One Wrote: Can healing be done by STS adept?

    Healing is service to... others, yes? If one is to consciously to polarize STS, then maximum 5% service to others is allowed to become harvestable.

    The answer is then, even if a negative adept can heal others (which I doubt), it would see it as a disservice, and instead take an advantage of anyone - unhealed, to serve the self.

    Quote:Is this a necessity to see the One Infinite Creator in Others if you are going the way of negative polarity?

    On contrary! The negative path is the path of separation. You need to be pure in that separation. Seeing another self as the Creator opens up the green ray:

    beloved, 84.9 Wrote:The awareness of all as Creator is that which opens the green energy center.

    So, you can absolutely not do that, if consciously choosing negative path.

    Quote:Where should I look for the Truth? How to come to realize what is right?

    If going STS, then you look only inside yourself:

    beloved, 36.14 Wrote:We remind you that the negative path is one of separation. What is the first separation: the self from the self. The one known as Himmler did not choose to use its abilities of will and polarization to seek guidance from any source but its conscious drives, self-chosen in the life experience and nourished by previous biases created in other life experiences.

    Good luck!
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    #35
    07-18-2013, 03:50 AM
    OFC negative adepts can heal. Why? Because if You have a disease that you want removed but cant remove for yourself but can confirm its presence/lack of presence and agree to serve me for a limited time when I will use you to get others to serve me permanently. I will ofcourse heal you. For the time being at least.
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    #36
    07-18-2013, 04:01 AM (This post was last modified: 07-18-2013, 04:03 AM by Adonai One.)
    Indeed, healing can be used a method of control. As for the actual metaphysics of such healing and energy... I have no understanding. But I am certain it is possible but far more difficult than doing it out of energy of unity.
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    07-18-2013, 04:08 AM
    (07-18-2013, 03:50 AM)Not Sure Wrote: OFC negative adepts can heal.

    I don't think so, because healers work from the green ray:

    Ra, 73.17 Wrote:When the magical personality has been seated in the green-ray energy center for healing work the energy then may be seen to be the crystalline center through which body energy is channeled.
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    07-18-2013, 04:11 AM (This post was last modified: 07-18-2013, 04:11 AM by Adonai One.)
    Are you familiar with the story of Rasputin, Ankh, and how he healed to gain respect of the Czars and increase his power?

    Of course this is discussed prior in this thread and it's contended he never fully healed the boy.

    He certainly healed himself through the numerous pseudo-deaths he overcame.

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    07-18-2013, 04:26 AM
    I might have a word or two to say about associating the magical personality with the ego self orientation of the below 6.5D polarized entity in the magical personality but I'll refrain.
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    07-18-2013, 04:41 AM
    It is possible to "heal" using a yellow ray, which is what negative entities use to open the gateway to intelligent infinity. However:

    Ra, 66.5 Wrote:We may note that there are some who use the yellow-ray configuration to transfer energy and this may be done but the effects are questionable and, with regard to the relationship between the healer, the healing energy, and the seeker, questionable due to the propensity for the seeker to continue requiring such energy transfers without any true healing taking place in the absence of the healer due to the lack of penetration of the armoring shell of which you spoke.
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    07-18-2013, 04:45 AM
    (07-18-2013, 04:41 AM)Ankh Wrote: It is possible to "heal" using a yellow ray, which is what negative entities use to open the gateway to intelligent infinity. However:

    Ra, 66.5 Wrote:We may note that there are some who use the yellow-ray configuration to transfer energy and this may be done but the effects are questionable and, with regard to the relationship between the healer, the healing energy, and the seeker, questionable due to the propensity for the seeker to continue requiring such energy transfers without any true healing taking place in the absence of the healer due to the lack of penetration of the armoring shell of which you spoke.

    This part has great relevance in regards to control. Wink

    It's always a pleasure to hear from you, Ankh. Smile
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    07-18-2013, 06:04 AM
    (07-18-2013, 04:41 AM)Ankh Wrote: It is possible to "heal" using a yellow ray, which is what negative entities use to open the gateway to intelligent infinity. However:

    Ra, 66.5 Wrote:We may note that there are some who use the yellow-ray configuration to transfer energy and this may be done but the effects are questionable and, with regard to the relationship between the healer, the healing energy, and the seeker, questionable due to the propensity for the seeker to continue requiring such energy transfers without any true healing taking place in the absence of the healer due to the lack of penetration of the armoring shell of which you spoke.

    Nice to see Ra share its distortion on the healing process.
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    07-18-2013, 11:27 AM (This post was last modified: 07-18-2013, 11:33 AM by Seeker of the One.)
    How can you determine the actual percent of the serving (to achieve 51%/95%)? Are you asking your Higher Self or whatever? I have been studying the Law of One for some months and have completed four books already but also analyzing my own life, treating to people etc. I have one more question for all of you.

    I am not skeptic, but I have read a lot of topics here on the forum that were interested for me, including meditation, are you really able to talk to your Higher Self, able to see some visions, able to feel some energy in the energy centers (I even found the topic about the new chakra centers that are appearing in entities, able to travel in astral)? I don't know, I am doing, guess, hard work on meditating and it is easy to me to remain as a spectator and calm down while that process but nothing concerning feeling the energy in the centers (can't they ALL be blocked, huh?), manipulating it inside my body complex so that I reserve for myself only the way of reading, thinking out to seek the One (the reason for username to be chosen). Everything else seems not working, am I stupid or simply wrong/incorrect/faulty/irregular/abnormal in something? During my everyday-trainings and meditations, I am always thinking that the energy inside should be felt as something impossible-to-describe that is inspiring you so much, I don't get anything while trying to whisper to my body.

    I never was able to know if I had previous life in 3rd density as a human, or could I happen to come from higher densities (which I really doubt because of my inability to do everything described upper). Analyzing all of this it would be nice to see that this is my first life in 3rd density after completing the 2nd density, haha. Although, I was gifted with iron will in my actions which I can control in the way I like so I see it as a great opportunity to use, as well as other intelligent functions and insight. Can you guess?

    There is a lot of talk about communicating with the unconscious mind. I tried some techniques to get to astral, but, surely there is no feeling coming to me that indicates the release to switch the body. I am more theoretician as is results in and I feel this to be wrong. I want to learn the Creator but nothing opens to me in response, I guess to do wrong something but cannot determine it.

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    07-18-2013, 12:09 PM
    I've gotten to the point of throwing percentages and labels out the window. They are only valuable up to a certain point. I want to serve others, and I look for opportunities to serve, and I take them when they arise. What else can be done? I don't stop to consider "Will this finally grant me that extra percent so I can graduate?" I do it because to me it feels like the right and reasonable thing to do. I wouldn't pass up an opportunity to improve myself just because I was "already there"...I want to spend every second of my life becoming as bright of a polished diamond as I possibly can. Likewise, self-serving adepts are so consumed with their own business that I doubt they care to waste time calculating their own selfishness. They simply take every opportunity to advance their own personal cause. If you truly want to gauge your harvestability, look at what you are doing with your life.
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    07-18-2013, 12:15 PM (This post was last modified: 07-18-2013, 12:18 PM by Seeker of the One.)
    (07-18-2013, 12:09 PM)Brittany Lynn Wrote: I've gotten to the point of throwing percentages and labels out the window. They are only valuable up to a certain point. I want to serve others, and I look for opportunities to serve, and I take them when they arise. What else can be done? I don't stop to consider "Will this finally grant me that extra percent so I can graduate?" I do it because to me it feels like the right and reasonable thing to do. I wouldn't pass up an opportunity to improve myself just because I was "already there"...I want to spend every second of my life becoming as bright of a polished diamond as I possibly can. Likewise, self-serving adepts are so consumed with their own business that I doubt they care to waste time calculating their own selfishness. They simply take every opportunity to advance their own personal cause. If you truly want to gauge your harvestability, look at what you are doing with your life.

    This is a good answer because it was not meant in the question for how to determine the percent so I will not do anything when I achieve it lol.
    I asked because there is a lot of talk of these percentages for being able to be harvested. And Ra tells these calculatings but what is the point to tell accurate data and not viewing how exactly to calculate it for adepts?
    Or is it just parting words to show the great pit between STO and STS so that adepts may choose carefully and be ready to what is prepared for them. However, the Creator actually calculates the percentages and it decides if you are ready or not, for example if you have not achieved 51% and you are something near 50.4%, isn't it? (Is this a Logos who harvests?)
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