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    03-21-2014, 09:36 AM (This post was last modified: 03-21-2014, 09:41 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    Does infinity never change, or is it more accurate to say that infinity is simultaneous?

    And what caused Creator to become aware? Was it the desire to know itself sprung up at some point? Was there a time before Creator was aware? (I'm guessing if so, then that was the previous Octave). The Creator became aware as a harvest of the previous Octave.

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    03-21-2014, 12:30 PM (This post was last modified: 03-21-2014, 12:33 PM by Horuseus.)
    (03-21-2014, 09:36 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Does infinity never change, or is it more accurate to say that infinity is simultaneous?

    What would either of scenarios mean to you? It can only be simultaneous (The appearance of such) if the very idea of time is also a concept within Infinity (Which is outside that concept having 'realized it', so to speak).

    'Infinity' is simply a blanket term which denotes the encompassing of all potential concepts. If 'Infinity' were to change in some fashion it would not be considered Infinity in the first place, for that previous state must have been lacking the new state. There is the concept of change within the Infinity sure, though at a higher level no. You're forced to abstract Infinity into something tangible, which you cannot, as any and all explanations will inevitably fall short of what it is, having existed within that thing being described. Ask a fish to describe water.

    Quote:And what caused Creator to become aware? Was it the desire to know itself sprung up at some point? Was there a time before Creator was aware? (I'm guessing if so, then that was the previous Octave). The Creator became aware as a harvest of the previous Octave.

    You can't desire to know yourself without being aware of yourself in the first place, though if time is also a concept within infinity (And therefore the linear sequential series of events we are accustomed to), the paradox is resolved. I'd say out of one of the many concepts or 'nodes' to explore awareness was one of them, so it was a natural inherent result of Infinity. There is an entire spectrum of experience (Infinite in itself) which can only be realised whilst exploring the idea of being 'aware'. As Ra says, "The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle".
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    03-21-2014, 12:41 PM (This post was last modified: 03-21-2014, 12:41 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    I like your avatar Horuseus. It makes me think of being in the presence of my higher self.

    I agree that infinity is both static and simultaneous. Time exists, but is only an illusion. In fact, Bashar says we are going through billions of static parallel realities per second. Movement itself is an illusion. I believe Ra says that consciousness is unmoved. I think Quo says that Creator is intelligent infinity, which is that conscious principle.

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    03-21-2014, 06:35 PM
    Infinity is simply all. All is all. To define it is to separate its truest nature.

    This is my belief/understanding.
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    03-23-2014, 11:13 AM (This post was last modified: 03-23-2014, 11:34 AM by anagogy.)
    (03-21-2014, 09:36 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Does infinity never change, or is it more accurate to say that infinity is simultaneous?

    Infinity does not change. But it doesn't matter, because all possibilities of "changingness" are contained within it. So we might even paradoxically say that infinity is unchanging in its infinite changingness.

    The main point is that the concept of "changing" is contained within the unchanging eternalness that is "infinity". What we call "change", or "time" (that's all time is), is our perception of lower energy shells, or orbits, of infinity.

    It is all "simultaneous" because all states of change are present within what you call "infinity", and as I said, time is simply a measurement of change.

    (03-21-2014, 09:36 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: And what caused Creator to become aware? Was it the desire to know itself sprung up at some point? Was there a time before Creator was aware? (I'm guessing if so, then that was the previous Octave). The Creator became aware as a harvest of the previous Octave.

    In my opinion, unpotentiated intelligent infinity was always "aware", as in the sense that what Beingness is, from my perspective, is a awareness of awareness. It is an awareness of existence. This would be the eighth density of consciousness. Now, that is not entirely concomitant with what we might call "self-awareness". In my opinion, this unpotentiated intelligent infinity does not have a "self" or "ego" as we would think of it. It is like intelligence without a focus.

    Self awareness occurs when this infinite intelligence randomly discerns or distills a concept from its own infinite beingness called "finity", which is the exact opposite of its natural broadest and unpotentiated base state of existence.

    When this infinite intelligence "explores" this concept, and I hesitate to say "explore" because I would liken this exploration to the same exploring that a stream of water, that has diverged from the ocean, "explores" the contours of the Earth which separate it from the Ocean. In other words, it is an inevitable exploration of the tide of Beingness. This "focuses" the intelligence into what seems like a kinetic focus in relationship to the infinite potential that is unpotentiated intelligent infinity. It is now potentiated intelligent infinity, coalesced into a 7th density self, or Logos, and it is now aware of a "self" that it is focusing through.
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    03-23-2014, 11:52 AM (This post was last modified: 03-23-2014, 11:53 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    So when Creator extended Free Will to intelligent infinity, the system of 7 densities was automatically created. Or perhaps when intelligent infinity was focused into Love or Logos, and then Logos gave way to Light were the densities created. I don't know if the Logos had to plan out the densities, or if they just fell into place automatically through free will. I hadn't realized that the Logos was 7th density. But that makes sense, since Ra says the sun is the entire Octave.

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    03-23-2014, 12:14 PM
    (03-23-2014, 11:52 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: So when Creator extended Free Will to intelligent infinity, the system of 7 densities was automatically created. Or perhaps when intelligent infinity was focused into Love or Logos, and then Logos gave way to Light were the densities created. I don't know if the Logos had to plan out the densities, or if they just fell into place automatically through free will. I hadn't realized that the Logos was 7th density. But that makes sense, since Ra says the sun is the entire Octave.

    The Logos had to deliberately create the densities.

    However, the Logos intuitively knows what thresholds of vibrations/colors/understandings will be required for consciousness to pass through in order to "know itself". So it knows the densities to be created will be designed with the course of traveling through the seven areas of knowing in mind. It creates a structure that corresponds with the consciousness of red ray, creates a structure that is resonant with the consciousness of orange ray, and so on, till the school is complete.

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