The mysterious nature of time

[Confused]

[Confused]

Is It Love? Or Attachment?

[yshurik]

Amazingly, just yesterday I found very interesting topic of Q'uo which was entirely about the feeling flow of time and especially highlighted divergences of speed that is felt comparing to old times or for different people and circumstances.

This is the session of April 8, 2007
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0408.aspx

Question from D: I feel as though something is out of order as far as time and the perception of time. The days don’t feel like they are supposed to be. It is as if something is out of sync. We are wondering if Q’uo could give us any information about the energies that affect our illusion at this time. Is there any particular reason why people who are sensitive to such things might be feeling that there is something not quite right with the way we are perceiving time; with the way time is being experienced in our illusion? Are there any spiritual principles here that Q’uo could speak to that might help us understand this situation?

Wondering if this transcript was already mentioned in the forum thread. I have a feeling that it's a good source for the contemplating and discussing the "time" subject.

[Confused]

Amazingly, just yesterday I found very interesting topic of Q'uo which was entirely about the feeling flow of time and especially highlighted divergences of speed that is felt comparing to old times or for different people and circumstances.

This is the session of April 8, 2007
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0408.aspx

Question from D: I feel as though something is out of order as far as time and the perception of time. The days don’t feel like they are supposed to be. It is as if something is out of sync. We are wondering if Q’uo could give us any information about the energies that affect our illusion at this time. Is there any particular reason why people who are sensitive to such things might be feeling that there is something not quite right with the way we are perceiving time; with the way time is being experienced in our illusion? Are there any spiritual principles here that Q’uo could speak to that might help us understand this situation?

Wondering if this transcript was already mentioned in the forum thread. I have a feeling that it's a good source for the contemplating and discussing the "time" subject.

Hello, yshurik! A very warm welcome to you to the thread! Thank you for stopping by.

No, that Q'uo transcript has so far not been discussed on the thread, so far. If it contains lot of interesting material, I would go through it, as well. However, if you have a brief synopsis of your understanding to share, that would be great, too. I enjoy reading opinions of fellow LOO seekers. It usually contains extraordinary insights. Thanks for bringing the thread back to its original intended purpose of discussing Time. Actually, I have gone into multiple directions, but it has been very productive, spiritually

Thanks once again!

[Ruth]

Amazingly, just yesterday I found very interesting topic of Q'uo which was entirely about the feeling flow of time and especially highlighted divergences of speed that is felt comparing to old times or for different people and circumstances.

This is the session of April 8, 2007
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0408.aspx

Question from D: I feel as though something is out of order as far as time and the perception of time. The days don’t feel like they are supposed to be. It is as if something is out of sync. We are wondering if Q’uo could give us any information about the energies that affect our illusion at this time. Is there any particular reason why people who are sensitive to such things might be feeling that there is something not quite right with the way we are perceiving time; with the way time is being experienced in our illusion? Are there any spiritual principles here that Q’uo could speak to that might help us understand this situation?

Wondering if this transcript was already mentioned in the forum thread. I have a feeling that it's a good source for the contemplating and discussing the "time" subject.

Excellent share yshurik!

[Confused]

Slighting - the Dangers of Being Disrespected

[Confused]

What Is Courage? : Existential Lessons From the Cowardly Lion

[Confused]

Life on this planet is pretty difficult and disillusioning, in many respects. There is no doubt in my mind about that. However, I think spiritual practitioners should not take their profound bitterness and frustration of dealing with such deeply troublesome planetary life as evidence of lack of compassion or love within them, in my opinion. I think the following LOO quote speaks to that --

41.14 Questioner: Is this energy center, then, on a very small scale related to the orange energy center in man?

Ra: I am Ra. The true color is precisely the same. However, the consciousness of the second-density beginning is primitive and the use of orange ray limited to the expression of self which may be seen to be movement and survival.

In third density, at this time, those clinging to orange ray have a much more complex system of distortions through which orange ray is manifested. This is somewhat complicated. We shall endeavor to simplify.

The appropriate true color for third density is, as you have ascertained, yellow. However, the influences of the true color, green, acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self or green ray. This may not be seen to be of a negatively polarized nature, as the negatively polarized entity is working very intensively with the deepest manifestations of yellow-ray group energies, especially the manipulations of other-self for service to self. Those reverting to orange ray, and we may add these are many upon your plane at this time, are those who feel the vibrations of true color green and, therefore, respond by rejecting governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self.

However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus.

Thus true color orange is that which it is, without difference. However, the manifestations of this or any ray may be seen to be most various depending upon the vibratory levels and balances of the mind/body or mind/body/spirit complexes which are expressing these energies.

[AnthroHeart]

So if we aren't serving others, do we have to worry that we've slipped back to yellow ray or orange ray, and maybe aren't harvestable?

[Hototo]

Harvest was a concern for people in the 1980's when the material was new. Looking around I think its pretty clear we've all already been harvested.

[Unbound]

Now to separate the wheat from the chaff!

[Confused]

So if we aren't serving others, do we have to worry that we've slipped back to yellow ray or orange ray, and maybe aren't harvestable?

Good question! I am now tired of even thinking about the Harvest and related concepts

The real world of the balance sheet is too very vivid.

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Looking around I think its pretty clear we've all already been harvested.

Hello, hi, Not Sure! Glad to have you here.

What makes you really say that, in terms of looking around and feeling that the Harvest has happened?

[Confused]

What Makes You Tick? : Understanding the mysteries of the unconscious mind

[Ruth]

What Makes You Tick? : Understanding the mysteries of the unconscious mind

Love the section title for this article: "A Headshrinker's Guide to the Galaxy" - I'm a big fan of Douglas Adams and appreciate the nod to his work.

I'm curious, Confused, about why this article sparked your interest?

[Confused]

I'm curious, Confused, about why this article sparked your interest?

I am inspired in this direction due to the amount of importance that the LOO placed on the role of the subconscious, Ruth!

[Ruth]

I'm curious, Confused, about why this article sparked your interest?

I am inspired in this direction due to the amount of importance that the LOO placed on the role of the subconscious, Ruth!

I see. Thank you, Confused.

[Confused]

I'm curious, Confused, about why this article sparked your interest?

I am inspired in this direction due to the amount of importance that the LOO placed on the role of the subconscious, Ruth!

I see. Thank you, Confused.

I thought you might like watching this, Ruth

[Ruth]

Confused - can you translate the story?

[Confused]

Confused - can you translate the story?

The context to the song is a funny one, actually. It is actually a song from a period Indian movie, called Lagaan (2001; Wikipedia page), set during 1893, when India was part of the British Empire.

In the song, the Indian girl is jealous that she might lose her lover, the protagonist, to the sister of a British administrative bureaucrat. The British girl actually fancies and loves the courageous Indian man in the movie

Well, I have not had such luck, so far :p

In the song, the Indian girl evokes imagery of Lord Krishna from Hindu mythology, who is known for his flamboyant ways with women. The protagonist tries to reassure her.

Lord Krishna is quite a character and probably, there is lot of spiritual allegory in terms of casting him as the prolific lover. After all, in the eyes of the One Infinite Creator, we are all his lovers.

39.6 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me— can you interpret a transmission from “The Nine”, where they say “CH is a principle which is the revealing principle of knowledge and law?” Can you tell me what that principle is?

Ra: I am Ra. The principle so veiled in that statement is but the simple principle of the constant or Creator and the transient or the incarnate being and the yearning existing between the two, one for the other, in love and light amidst the distortions of free will acting upon the illusion-bound entity.

[Meerie]

Who does CH refer to?
I read a bit on the session you mentioned but they don't seem to explain it?

[Confused]

Here, Ruth, I found the same one with English subtitles

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Who does CH refer to?
I read a bit on the session you mentioned but they don't seem to explain it?

Hello, Meerie!

Don got that from a transmission outside the LOO and asked Ra as to what that meant. Don asked a number of questions about other channeled materials, books, movies, etc. Part of that tradition, I think.

For understanding what CH is, I think we need to go to the original work, which is part of some transmission of the “The Nine”.

[Meerie]

is the transmission "the nine" online available also?
thank you C

[Confused]

is the transmission "the nine" online available also?
thank you C

Let me just do a quick scan of the internet and see whether it is available, Meerie.

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is the transmission "the nine" online available also?
thank you C

Hi, Meerie, I googled on the same and found this page -- http://www.uri-geller.com/uri-mystery/uri15.htm

Might be helpful.

[Meerie]

Thank you dear C!
CH is a principle which is the revealing principle of knowledge and law. CH is the principle of timeless knowledge as revealed through the time process.

<- do you think this could refer to Ra?
and the LOO

[Confused]

<- do you think this could refer to Ra?

Which one, Meerie? I did not get it.

[Ruth]

It's a beautiful dance, Confused and I love the music. Thank you for the version with subtitles it made things a bit more clear for me.

Watching the video the first time I was noticing the colors of the women's clothing - all yellow, orange and red with a little green here and there - and it seemed to me more green showing nearer the end of the dance. I wondered if the use of colors had a deeper meaning to the plot. I would also love to understand hand positions as I believe I've heard somewhere that they also hold meaning.

[Meerie]

CH.
That Ra is CH.
Btw googling council of nine at lawofone.info, I found other hits, mentioning that there had been 9 archetypes (prior to the veiling?) - could it be that each of the 9 members of the council represent an archetype?

[Confused]

It's a beautiful dance, Confused and I love the music. Thank you for the version with subtitles it made things a bit more clear for me.

Watching the video the first time I was noticing the colors of the women's clothing - all yellow, orange and red with a little green here and there - and it seemed to me more green showing nearer the end of the dance. I wondered if the use of colors had a deeper meaning to the plot. I would also love to understand hand positions as I believe I've heard somewhere that they also hold meaning.

Hello, yes, that is a nice observation regarding the colors. I did not notice them before.

I ran a search for 'Orange ray' and got this

32.14 Questioner: I just meant was it possible, say, for a green-ray… when we’re talking about green-ray activation and energy transfers, is it possible for a green-ray person who is primarily green-ray activation to vary on both sides of green ray a large or a small amount in energy activation, or does he stay primarily green-ray?

Ra: I am Ra. We grasp the newness of material requested by you. It was unclear, for we thought we had covered this material. The portion covered is this: the green-ray activation is always vulnerable to the yellow or orange ray of possession, this being largely yellow ray but often coming into orange ray. Fear of possession, desire for possession, fear of being possessed, desire to be possessed: these are the distortions which will cause the deactivation of green-ray energy transfer.

The new material is this: once the green ray has been achieved, the ability of the entity to enter blue ray is immediate and is only awaiting the efforts of the individual. The indigo ray is opened only through considerable discipline and practice largely having to do with acceptance of self, not only as the polarized and balanced self but as the Creator, as an entity of infinite worth. This will begin to activate the indigo ray.

Well, well, what is jealousy if not a form of possession?!

Probably, as the female lover gets more and more reassured towards the end, she allows her green ray love to peek through! Of course, I do not think that probably the cloths color scheme was based on the Chakra symbology. But, who knows?!

You are right about the hand positions, Ruth. They are called Mudras, actually. Though I have not read this page fully (just skimmed the top), I think it contains some good information on Mudras -- Mudras in Indian Classical Dance

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That Ra is CH.

I really do not know, Meerie. However, if you ask me my personal opinion, I do not think it to be the case.

... 9 archetypes (prior to the veiling?) - could it be that each of the 9 members of the council represent an archetype?

:idea: Well, well, that is an interesting correlation. It could be more than just coincidence. I think we also have nine members on the Council of Saturn?

Well worth some contemplation, I think :exclamation:

[Ruth]

following is a quote from Wikipedia about Radha:

"
Radha’s love towards Krishna in the terrestrial or customary meaning is not just the relation between a man and woman. The feeling of this love is divine and phenomenal which gives this love a pious form. The philosophical side of this reduces the distance of the support and supportive, also the difference between the worshipper and worshipful is not there. Krishna is the life of Vraj; Radha is the soul of Krishna. That is why, it is said, “Atma Tu Radhika Tasya” (Radha, you are His soul). One form of Radha is, she is a devotee, worshipper of Krishna and in the second form she is the worshipful, devoted by Krishna. ‘Aradhyate Asau itii Radha.’ Radha – Krishna’s love is the symbol of the feeling of being united. When two souls are united, the difference of the other or the second vanishes.Her father Vrsabhanu was the king of cowherds Gop. Vrsabhanu was a partial incarnation of Lord Narayana while her mother Kalavati was a partial incarnation of Goddess Lakshmi."

So it seems that their relationship includes all the rays. Together they incorporate the yin/yang, male/female sides of the creator. So of course if there is separation, there is a feeling of jealousy, a longing to become one again.

I don't see jealousy as necessarily being a desire to control. Rather, as I said above, I see it as a sadness of separation. The loss of part of yourself with whom you long to be reunited.

[Meerie]

they could also represent a planet each, since we have 9 planets in our solar system:
http://nineplanets.org/planetorder.JPG
and the planets are also linked to archetypes (I believe even Ra said this)
79.15
Questioner: I will guess that those nine were three of mind, three of body, and three of spirit. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

here referring to the nine archetypes... does anyone familiar with the archetypes know which ones he is referring to?