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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Is meditation a STS act?

    Thread: Is meditation a STS act?


    fr33d0m (Offline)

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    #91
    12-06-2011, 09:52 PM
    Meditation is what you make of it. If you follow your line of thinking, sleeping, breathing, eating, any act to aid the self would be considered STS. STS is all about separation, control, and fear. If you meditate upon unity, freedom, and love, you are strengthening STO.

    I applaud your progress in discernment, that you wish your every act to be in accordance with your chosen polarity.

    Having said that, spend a bit of time on STS/STO studies, then be prepared to throw all of that away. I found that a useful framework for over 10 years. Now I don't care if you wear a black t-shirt or a white t-shirt, I serve the One Creation.

    Just meditate. Your being will naturally strengthen what it already is: Love. Peace and Love to You.
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    #92
    12-17-2011, 05:38 PM
    I think meditation is actually an act of self-transcending.
    We aim to reach oneness, to improve our connection with the divine, to open our heart, and to see in others ourselves and vice-versa. I think this can be good for people walking the STO path.

    Meditation is also not something you do, but something that happens to you. Something that you become. That is given to you. Otherwise it is not meditation, it is an act of mind. Meditation is a state of pure awareness. I think the concept STS/STO (duality) cannot apply to meditation.





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    #93
    03-28-2014, 09:31 AM
    (12-17-2011, 05:38 PM)irpsit Wrote: I think meditation is actually an act of self-transcending.
    We aim to reach oneness, to improve our connection with the divine, to open our heart, and to see in others ourselves and vice-versa. I think this can be good for people walking the STO path.

    Meditation is also not something you do, but something that happens to you. Something that you become. That is given to you. Otherwise it is not meditation, it is an act of mind. Meditation is a state of pure awareness. I think the concept STS/STO (duality) cannot apply to meditation.

    Found this old thread. Thanks for letting me know that meditation doesn't apply to sto/sts. I guess it's what we do with the meditation that makes the difference. If we work on ourselves, it can't inherently be sts.

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    #94
    04-05-2014, 09:10 PM
    "Warning

    Some of you may be familiar with Drunvalo Melchizedek's "Merkaba" meditation.

    DO NOT DO THE MEDITATION!

    Drunvalo's source is Thothe and this is the same 5th density entity that plagued Carla, Jim, and Don and the same entity that I have named as Edgar. The meditation is targeted toward wanderers and breaks the Intelligent Infinity flow into the torus.

    Also, for those of you who may be followers of Aeasha Dean and the Keylontic Science cult, this too is from negative sources (Thothe). You may do as you choose, but be warned that the source of these seemingly helpful and loving blessings is not from the Confederation or designed to help you into 4th density."


    Ever heard of this?

    http://deangraves.typepad.com/

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    #95
    04-05-2014, 09:34 PM (This post was last modified: 04-05-2014, 09:41 PM by Sagittarius.)
    (04-05-2014, 09:10 PM)darklight Wrote: "Warning

    Some of you may be familiar with Drunvalo Melchizedek's "Merkaba" meditation.

    DO NOT DO THE MEDITATION!

    Drunvalo's source is Thothe and this is the same 5th density entity that plagued Carla, Jim, and Don and the same entity that I have named as Edgar. The meditation is targeted toward wanderers and breaks the Intelligent Infinity flow into the torus.

    Also, for those of you who may be followers of Aeasha Dean and the Keylontic Science cult, this too is from negative sources (Thothe). You may do as you choose, but be warned that the source of these seemingly helpful and loving blessings is not from the Confederation or designed to help you into 4th density."


    Ever heard of this?

    http://deangraves.typepad.com/

    Utter dross. What's the difference between thoth and thothe? Nothing only the ones you create.

    How naive, thinking the implications you make toward one aspect of the creator do not bleed into the coloured division of every aspect in it's entirety. Blindness is no excuse. Do you really think in a united creation that the higher density does not have an equivalent blindness in essence? What you are implying makes no sense and is the same old dung that we fed to ourselves previously, there ain't no backwards only forwards. Contribute to discovery and creativity or don't it makes no difference you are just a single dot on an indestructible infallible bell curve.

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    04-06-2014, 01:14 AM
    (04-05-2014, 09:34 PM)Sagittarius Wrote:
    (04-05-2014, 09:10 PM)darklight Wrote: "Warning

    Some of you may be familiar with Drunvalo Melchizedek's "Merkaba" meditation.

    DO NOT DO THE MEDITATION!

    Drunvalo's source is Thothe and this is the same 5th density entity that plagued Carla, Jim, and Don and the same entity that I have named as Edgar. The meditation is targeted toward wanderers and breaks the Intelligent Infinity flow into the torus.

    Also, for those of you who may be followers of Aeasha Dean and the Keylontic Science cult, this too is from negative sources (Thothe). You may do as you choose, but be warned that the source of these seemingly helpful and loving blessings is not from the Confederation or designed to help you into 4th density."


    Ever heard of this?

    http://deangraves.typepad.com/

    Utter dross. What's the difference between thoth and thothe? Nothing only the ones you create.

    How naive, thinking the implications you make toward one aspect of the creator do not bleed into the coloured division of every aspect in it's entirety. Blindness is no excuse. Do you really think in a united creation that the higher density does not have an equivalent blindness in essence? What you are implying makes no sense and is the same old dung that we fed to ourselves previously, there ain't no backwards only forwards. Contribute to discovery and creativity or don't it makes no difference you are just a single dot on an indestructible infallible bell curve.

    I agree, this is nonsense and not at all like my experiences with the Merkaba techniques. However, I admit I am not entirely trusting of Drunvalo but not on the matter of technique.
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    #97
    04-06-2014, 03:01 AM
    I had an awesome meditation this night. It was just for 5 minutes, not more, as I had to run later. I started in thoughts of the Creator, or unity, and then managed to achieve silence. This silence then "became" the Creator, speaking to me, and making me to almost melt with this mystery-clad unity which binds all the Creation. And then a dark face appeared, and I felt a shadow on my left side, knowing that it was a negative entity, also knowing that this is when I get scared or uncomfortable. But those few minutes before it happened were enough to look right into that face, and not feeling any fear, as this was a Creator experiencing itself - how could you be scared of the Creator? And shadow disappeared, melting into unity of all things. This activation from top to toes, lasted for some time after the meditation. As daddy Ra said:

    "Always begin and end in the Creator, not in technique."

    Smile
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    #98
    04-06-2014, 04:05 AM
    You are service. Meditation is service to all. In service to yourself you serve others.

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    04-10-2014, 07:59 PM (This post was last modified: 04-10-2014, 08:00 PM by Stranger.)
    (01-28-2010, 11:47 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: However, in the time I am meditating, I am working on myself, opening my chakras, and letting the energy flow through me. Since this is myself, is meditation in this sense service-to-self?

    As physically embodied beings, we have a tendency (as Ra would say, a distortion) towards focusing on observable actions and their consequences rather than on states of being. Yet our states of being are continuous, ongoing actions. Being in a peaceful state and radiating love into the energy field of this planet accomplishes a great deal of service; in addition, it creates a more emotionally stable and loving disposition for our individual future actions.

    I find it helpful to keep in mind that service to self is not taking care of self; it is benefitting oneself at the expense of another. Taking care of self with love, laughter, joy and compassion are activities that make a positive contribution to the energetic environment we all share, and are absolutely necessary on our spiritual path. The converse of "love your neighbor as yourself" is "love yourself as your neighbor".

    Your question caught my eye because during one of my meditations early on, I was told, "it's still a service to self activity" and was troubled, until a highly trusted guide explained to me that it was a negatively polarized entity's attempt to block my progress.

    More recently, I was given the following guidance: "When you meditate, you think you're only sitting, but you're actually walking the path to God." When I took this advice and began meditating daily, wonderful changes transpired.

    With much love,
    Stranger
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    #100
    04-11-2014, 12:52 AM
    On the service to others path, you are an other self that is also to be served.
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    #101
    04-11-2014, 11:34 AM
    I agree Stranger. Being in a state of peace while transmitting Love to the energy field of the planet is a great form of service.

    And thanks for the input xise. It makes it much more meaningful to take care of oneself.

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    #102
    12-16-2016, 08:30 AM (This post was last modified: 12-16-2016, 08:31 AM by Infinite.)
    (04-05-2014, 09:10 PM)darklight Wrote: Drunvalo's source is Thothe and this is the same 5th density entity that plagued Carla, Jim, and Don and the same entity that I have named as Edgar. The meditation is targeted toward wanderers and breaks the Intelligent Infinity flow into the torus.

    This doesn't make any sense. Obvious that we need have discerniment when to study any author/school. The best way is analyse the message. Then, about Drunvalo and Thoth:

    - Is possible feel the positivity in your books.
    - Some informations is very similar to the Ra Material
    - He talks about unity and the illusion of separation

    Peace, love and light.

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    #103
    12-16-2016, 11:56 AM
    In the influence of infinite love, all actions serve the Creator in the love of unity. The love that is awakened and radiated to others is the deepest love of the Creator. Whether this is done by meditation or another type of act, which is meditation also, all will be touched by the spirit of oneself. One radiates the Creator.
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    #104
    12-18-2016, 12:01 AM
    this question only promotes division since true sto polarization is of unity not division, it is of benefit to the self and others..

    where as the service to self individual cannot understand beyond polarity itself, of a percieved way of elitism, and the other way is supposedly not as important.

    very lacking in wisdom if you ask me.

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    12-18-2016, 02:12 AM
    Acts of self-improvement done with the long-term intention of increasing one's ability to do service for others are still ultimately coming from an STO polarization. An obvious example would be how much effort it takes to become a licensed doctor in nearly all countries. Someone who feels a call to heal others has to go through 5-10 years of intensive and largely self-focused learning processes just to be able to practice.

    Now, one might say "But some doctors are only in it for the money or the fame!" And this is true. However, it just illustrates how difficult it is to judge the polarity of an individual based solely on their activities. Likewise, while meditation can be a gateway to far greater realization of interconnectedness and the importance of serving otherwise, it can also be a gateway to very selfish abilities.

    It all depends on the individual, and their underlying intentions.

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    #106
    12-18-2016, 02:44 AM
    I think the best manner to consider the position of self within the STO path is to consider the self as one of the others, except that it is the one you are most intimate with.
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    12-21-2016, 10:54 AM
    I think it would be beneficial to differentiate between working FOR the self as opposed to working ON the self.
    I would say meditation as well as healing work done unto the self is a prerequisite for sto.
    Everything deep inside of us that is not yet healed could easily result in distorted service.
    Or rather in distorted perception of ones service.
    Alot of so-called "service to others" is probably done out of egoistic motives.

    My personal experience with this was for example, I would "offensively assist or help" my partners in healing and developing. But years later I realized my main purpose in doing this was that I wanted to "create" a partner that would love me unconditionally and assist in my healing.

    Another example would be: a friend of mine would always bless the places or locations in nature that we were and do healing work for this particular place.
    At the same time he was heavily radiating energy like anger, fear and so on.
    Healing work on his self would have stopped him polluting the surroundings with strongly negative energy.

    I think, the work we do on ourselves like meditation and healing work, when done with the background of a positive polarity is indeed an sto act.
    When meditation is practiced with the intention to control and gain power to control others it would be an sts act.
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