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    02-25-2016, 05:09 PM (This post was last modified: 02-25-2016, 05:09 PM by Nicholas.)
    Stranger, this thread where you have shared your milestone has been a joy to read!

    I would like to bring some Ra quotes that come to my mind upon reading this pleasurable thread...

    "The attempt, if it reaches one, reaches all....but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?"


    I could post more but I don't want to make it too obvious as to what I am suspecting and implying. I would only ask, have you studied the clues that your guides gave you during their offer of congratulations and praise? They are screaming out to me but I cant offer anything that isn't requested. And I cant even point directly to them even if there was a request...But I surely share this joy with you and rejoice!


    PS. Concorde grape juice tastes real good at times such as these. Be well brother!


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    02-25-2016, 06:34 PM (This post was last modified: 02-25-2016, 07:47 PM by Stranger.)
    Thanks so much for your very kind words, Nicholas, and I can feel the excitement in your message all the way from here! A joy shared is definitely a joy doubled. But my main reason for posting is to document this process in order to derive, hopefully, some general understandings that others may find helpful.

    I Googled up the Ra quote you mentioned and read Ra's entire response (17.2). Unless I am mistaken, you may be suggesting that this is "enlightenment"?

    Quote:17.2 Questioner: Is it possible to help an entity to reach fourth-density level in these last days?
    Ra: I am Ra. It is impossible to help another being directly. It is only possible to make catalyst available in whatever form, the most important being the radiation of realization of oneness with the Creator from the self, less important being information such as we share with you.
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    We cannot offer shortcuts to enlightenment. Enlightenment is of the moment, is an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery, of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?

    That's a difficult question to address, because "enlightenment" is such a confusing term that there is an entire magazine whose name had been for years, literally, "What is Enlightenment?" (recently renamed, it appears). I certainly don't "know all there was to be known", as Buddha allegedly did. Nor do I feel miraculously different -- although, despite the clearing-out process still ongoing, there have been definite, definite changes. I think more than anything it's important to maintain perspective and humility - even if I got a turbo-boost past my inner obstacles, the road to God's perfection is infinitely long. I'm simply grateful to have more peace and more insight, and hopefully to document this so that it may help others. I don't feel it's necessarily helpful to assign specific terms to this event. Just another, clearly very major step on a long journey of many surprises!

    When the dust settles a bit, I'll post another update!
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    02-25-2016, 06:41 PM
    To me the road to God's perfection is but a path toward awareness that it ever was present and there.

    Awareness that each and every of your choices were right, just as those of others, that none of us ever was unrequired nor undesirable in the grand cosmic plan.

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    02-25-2016, 06:52 PM
    Of course, that's part of it, but I think it's not helpful to conclude that there is nothing to be done. The Logos very carefully created a game for us to play (for himself to play, as us!), where we do in fact grow and develop -- in our capacity to express and radiate that perfection, which is always there, into the Creation around us.

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    02-25-2016, 06:57 PM (This post was last modified: 02-25-2016, 06:57 PM by Minyatur.)
    (02-25-2016, 06:52 PM)Stranger Wrote: Of course, that's part of it, but I think it's not helpful to conclude that there is nothing to be done.  The Logos very carefully created a game for us to play (for himself to play, as us!), where we do in fact grow and develop -- in our capacity to express and radiate that perfection, which is always there, into the Creation around us.

    Well within the game you don't have a choice to play, but you can stretch the experience of yourself as you want.

    Our actions will be judged, but the judge will be ourselves and this inevitably creates change.

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    #36
    02-25-2016, 07:15 PM
    Even when I read something that should be upsetting, I can quickly shift the mood to satisfaction or a mild form of joy, or contentment.

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    02-25-2016, 07:52 PM
    To add to my last post. If you want to consider that there always is something to be done (in self and other-selves), are you more likely to radiate love for what is or seek to fix something?

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    02-25-2016, 08:53 PM (This post was last modified: 02-25-2016, 08:55 PM by Minyatur.)
    My yellow ray is pretty much in the same state as yours for the same kind of reasons. I tend to call those distortions 'past experiences to resolve and accept'. In one of my first psychedelic experience, I expanded the awareness of my yellow ray all over myself and my reaction was pretty much "Wow.. this will take ages to untangle".

    The main difference in my experience is that I do not see myself as a disappointment, I allow myself to be as I am and distill what happens and what it does. I think change always happen, and how I am now is but a temporary state and it's own mirror on what we all are.
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    02-25-2016, 09:30 PM (This post was last modified: 02-25-2016, 09:40 PM by Stranger.)
    I hear you, and I'd had this blockage for hundreds of years it seems, so by this life I'm ready to be done with it. Yes it's not the worst thing in the world, but enough is enough!

    As to your other question:
    Quote:If you want to consider that there always is something to be done (in self and other-selves), are you more likely to radiate love for what is or seek to fix something?


    I don't see it as a dichotomy. It was the work I've done on myself that has allowed me to radiate love, in increasing amounts -- and to find growing happiness for myself and my family -- rather than continuing to sit in my grumpy self-absorption.

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    02-25-2016, 10:49 PM
    Here's an amusing anecdote. For two nights in a row since that event I'd had nightmares where third chakra issues vividly played out. I understood them to be side effects of the nighttime clearing-out process I had been told about. But the second nightmare (the night before last) was so intense it woke me up at 5am and I couldn't go back to sleep - it wrecked my day. Yesterday I thought, "I wonder what my nightmare will be tonight?" and was immediately told by a guide: The nightmares were due to the carelessness of the entity doing the clearing; he has been reprimanded and I won't have any more nightmares.

    Last night I dreamt of being at a children's party, sitting in a circle and holding hands with an uber-intelligent and very friendly sloth.
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    02-25-2016, 10:52 PM
    I think we can unblock yellow ray faster if we never hurt or assaulted anyone.

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    02-26-2016, 06:18 PM (This post was last modified: 02-26-2016, 06:23 PM by Nicholas. Edit Reason: spelling mistake )
    (02-25-2016, 06:34 PM)Stranger Wrote: I Googled up the Ra quote you mentioned and read Ra's entire response (17.2).  Unless I am mistaken, you may be suggesting that this is "enlightenment"?  



    Quote:17.2 Questioner: Is it possible to help an entity to reach fourth-density level in these last days?
    Ra: I am Ra. It is impossible to help another being directly. It is only possible to make catalyst available in whatever form, the most important being the radiation of realization of oneness with the Creator from the self, less important being information such as we share with you.
    [snip]
    We cannot offer shortcuts to enlightenment. Enlightenment is of the moment, is an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery, of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?

    That's a difficult question to address, because "enlightenment" is such a confusing term that there is an entire magazine whose name had been for years, literally, "What is Enlightenment?"  (recently renamed, it appears). 

    Indeed, when we analyse certain descriptive pointers we are limited to the many subjective and detailed versions of what these terms could potentially imply. And this is where my own subjective analysis falls into. Amidst the intellectual, metaphorical and mystical ways in which sincere verbiage attempts to translate realisations, or expansions of identity, there is indeed many a truth to be found.

    I re-post a particular quote from your guides, in which the metaphors of nature appear to be exquisitely used Smile

    "Let us describe it to you to the best of our ability.  Are you ready?  (yes) OK, we proceed.  Today, you have unfolded yourself like a flower with a thousand petals.  You are suddenly and inexplicably abloom!  That is the truth.  The radiance of your being at this moment is unparalleled, and we understand the doubts you are experiencing about our words, but ask that you please allow us to express and share our joy with you unhindered by these doubts.  OK?  (yes, sorry) No need for apologies.  We proceed.

    What happened, you might ask, to bring this about?  Simple.  The answer is twofold.  first, you finally and completely accepted yourself for who you are.  Welcomed yourself into existence like a father welcoming a newborn.  That is indeed how you were welcomed when you were first created, but this - your second rebirth - is when you finally accepted your beingness as worthy."  


    (02-25-2016, 06:34 PM)Stranger Wrote: When the dust settles a bit, I'll post another update!

    The ashes of baptism shall surely settle Stranger! #tickledtodeath
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    02-26-2016, 07:16 PM
    Your happiness on my behalf is making me very happy, Nicholas, and I wanted to let you know how much I've appreciated your posts on this thread.

    I grew up in a family where whatever I achieved was responded to with criticism that I should have done more - not out of any malice, but because my father has that attitude toward himself and his own issues. So it feels fantastic to experience sincere sympathetic joy. Thank you.
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    02-26-2016, 07:37 PM
    (02-26-2016, 07:16 PM)Stranger Wrote: Your happiness on my behalf is making me very happy, Nicholas, and I wanted to let you know how much I've appreciated your posts on this thread.

    I grew up in a family where whatever I achieved was responded to with criticism that I should have done more - not out of any malice, but because my father has that attitude toward himself and his own issues.  So it feels fantastic to experience sincere sympathetic joy.  Thank you.

    Cyber hugs!  BigSmile

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    02-27-2016, 11:25 AM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2016, 01:54 PM by Stranger.)
    I obtained some information about healing today, so I thought I'd share it with whoever might benefit from it.

    Previously, I had been told that a more powerful way to carry out healing is to contact the individual's Unconscious Awareness; in contrast, Reiki (which was my first taste of the spiritual, and will always have a fond place in my heart) was described as akin to "putting a person in the shower, and hoping they get wet in the right spots". I've found this teaching effective, but today wanted to understand more about what was involved. So, today in meditation I spoke to my Unconscious Awareness and asked about healing.

    I asked it what it is, and it said: a part of your energy that is not behind the veil. It's as if your consciousness is separated into two parts: a very small part that is your conscious awareness, and a larger part that makes sure everything is running smoothly behind the scenes - and enjoys that work very much (got the feeling like the joy of tinkering around with a very fun piece of equipment).

    I asked if the UA creates blockages, and it said no, the conscious part of the person creates those, and the UA does its best to work around them to keep the body functioning as best as it can.

    I asked what the way to work with it (in others) in order to heal would be, and it said: identify the issues, ask the unconscious awareness if it's ready to let go of it, and if so, ask it to heal it. It said that yes, an influx of energy is needed in order to carry out the clearing, but that energy is usually available to the UA - unless being actively blocked by the conscious mind, as in the case where the person does not truly wish to be healed - and so it's usually not necessary to attempt to "infuse" energy into the person. It said that the UA does not have the capacity to make decisions for the person - that is the role of the conscious awareness - and so as much as it may wish to, the UA cannot carry out a healing unless it is asked to do so. (This, I was told, is very important to emphasize). Identifying the issues and asking is the primary role of the facilitator ("healer").

    I asked about why I had been told to relate to the UA with respect and deference, and was told that the UA is the entity itself, in all of its timeless majesty and glory - not really a human being, but more God. Therefore respect is necessary and appropriate.

    Having written the above, it occurred to me that folks might wonder, "this is great, but how do I contact the unconscious awareness?" So I should say something about that part of the process, which is really the bigger part. Contacting other entities is a natural function of everyone's intuitive capacity, which we humans tend to utterly neglect, and therefore it never develops. Think of it this way - if babies are not exposed to language, they might babble but never learn to use full language. The equivalent of that spontaneous but untrained use of speech in terms of intuition are the gut feelings we all have, sudden feelings that something is right or wrong, etc.

    Intuition can be trained far beyond that simply through practice. It is a function of the third eye chakra, so one exercise is "drinking sunlight with your forehead": sit in the sunlight and imagine golden sunlight streaming into the middle of your forehead, like a glowing golden liquid. It will charge you up amazingly. After one particularly intense session, I was simply walking down the street and everyone was smiling at me (warm smiles, not weird ones).

    Then the main approach to training something is to use it - just like with a muscle. Normally, any intuitive information we receive is shut down by the conscious mind. "That can't be right", "that doesn't make any sense", "I'm just imagining it", "it's my own thoughts". So we need to break through this censorship -- through practice. Automatic writing is one way to do it, I've found it to be an excellent tool. This is how I receive most of my messages, because I get the verbatim record at the same time. When the guides ask to speak to me, I often say "wait, let me get on my computer". So you can sit down with paper and pen or a PC, ask your higher self to speak to you, and just wait. If nonsense comes through, let it - the main skill to practice is writing down whatever word or concept pops into your mind, whether or not it makes any sense to you at the time.. Do that enough, and a voice will come through all that static. Countless times I would receive an unexpected word and doubt the heck out of it, but at the end of the paragraph it makes perfect sense.

    Those are the best messages, incidentally - when I get something that truly surprises me. I know I'm learning something new, which is a gift.

    All my communications that I post here result from years of practice. I started out with a pendulum (taught to the students in the first ever Reiki class I took), asking yes/no questions. But I wanted desperately to be able to speak directly to my guides, so I began paying attention to thoughts that would suddenly pop into my mind; by focusing on the very soft and subtle whisper of intuition and taking it seriously, encouraged it.

    The other useful skill is recognizing that we have many, many capacities which we do not realize we have. Moreover, we know exactly how to use them, but we've forgotten that we know. So we sometimes might think that we need to do something tricky and complicated to achieve something, but in reality we simply have to intend it, and it happens. This is how you can, for example, contact any consciousness in existence. Just intend to do so. How? In the same way you move your arm. You don't need to do anything complicated or trick your mind into some zen state to move your arm. You just know you can do it, so you intend to do it and it happens.

    Finally, even if it all seems confusing and you feel that you can't do it, keep in mind the magic secret to everything: if you really want something, the tools and guidance will be provided. Just keep digging for it in the best way you know how, keep longing for it, keep trying -- and your efforts will be steered in the right direction, little by little. Lots of love to all.
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    02-27-2016, 11:50 AM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2016, 11:52 AM by Minyatur.)
    By Unconscious Awareness you speak of the Higher Self?

    Because from what you said it seems to imply so but I'd consider my Shadow Awareness more linked to my unveiled self which also has his own Unconscious Awareness/Higher Self.

    I ask because most of my distortions lie in my unconscious awareness and not my veiled conscious one.

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    02-27-2016, 12:05 PM
    I guess everything you interact with could also be considered your unconscious awareness, or rather unconscious to yourself other-conscious awarenesses.

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    02-27-2016, 12:23 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2016, 12:45 PM by Stranger.)
    (02-27-2016, 12:05 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I guess everything you interact with could also be considered your unconscious awareness, or rather unconscious to yourself other-conscious awarenesses.

    Minyatur, these are great questions.  My answer simply is that there is an entity - a part of yourself - which will respond when you ask to contact your Unconscious Awareness.  That is the specific name I was told to use and have had much luck using.  It is not the higher self - the higher self is a 6th density imprint of yourself, whereas the UA is the part of you that's regulating your body functions at all levels.  

    "Distortions" could refer to many things, but I would say they are all in the personality shell rather than in the UA or Higher Self.  Think of distortions (specifically, blockages) as oddly shaped bricks and planks that are present in different parts of a building.  Your conscious awareness and your unconscious awareness are the "people" living in that building.  Your CA can ask your UA to replace some of the funny planks with more structurally sound ones.  

    I hope that helps to clarify things somewhat!

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    02-27-2016, 01:06 PM
    (02-27-2016, 12:23 PM)Stranger Wrote:
    (02-27-2016, 12:05 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I guess everything you interact with could also be considered your unconscious awareness, or rather unconscious to yourself other-conscious awarenesses.

    Minyatur, these are great questions.  My answer simply is that there is an entity - a part of yourself - which will respond when you ask to contact your Unconscious Awareness.  That is the specific name I was told to use and have had much luck using.  It is not the higher self - the higher self is a 6th density imprint of yourself, whereas the UA is the part of you that's regulating your body functions at all levels.  

    "Distortions" could refer to many things, but I would say they are all in the personality shell rather than in the UA or Higher Self.  Think of distortions (specifically, blockages) as oddly shaped bricks and planks that are present in different parts of a building.  Your conscious awareness and your unconscious awareness are the "people" living in that building.  Your CA can ask your UA to replace some of the funny planks with more structurally sound ones.  

    I hope that helps to clarify things somewhat!

    It does, had missed what you were referring to.

    I think I do interact with this portion of myself but had not given it a name. Reciting the name mentally seems to make something resonate in my mind, so will surely try this way.

    Stranger Wrote:I asked about why I had been told to relate to the UA with respect and deference, and was told that the UA is the entity itself, in all of its timeless majesty and glory - not really a human being, but more God. Therefore respect is necessary and appropriate.

    This portion had made me think of the Higher Self.

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    02-27-2016, 06:11 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2016, 06:16 PM by Nicholas.)
    Technical fault

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    02-27-2016, 06:15 PM
    (02-27-2016, 11:25 AM)Stranger Wrote: Intuition can be trained far beyond that simply through practice.  It is a function of the third eye chakra, so one exercise is "drinking sunlight with your forehead": sit in the sunlight and imagine golden sunlight streaming into the middle of your forehead, like a glowing golden liquid.

    #godgazing  Cool

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    03-12-2016, 10:11 PM (This post was last modified: 03-12-2016, 10:12 PM by Stranger.)
    I've posted earlier about how to heal through contacting the patient's Unconscious Awareness. Today I received some follow-up details worth sharing. Here's the transcript.

    Me: Can I clarify a few things about the healing process?

    Certainly. Proceed.

    Me: I feel that I may be having difficulty "locating" or "grasping" the ideal body-form in order to apply it. Could you offer some guidance on this?

    We may and will do so. The ideal form is not "out there" somewhere that you have to find it in order to "bring it down", that is the truth. It is within you, readily accessible to you, at all times, because all is One and you, dear [Stranger], are in fact one with the All. So, in order to locate the ideal form body, as you call it, all you need to do is wish to locate it, then trust your instincts, by which we mean the infinite wisdom of your unconscious self, to carry out the task for you.

    once the ideal form-body has been located, simply bring it into close alignment with the patient. The form will latch on, as you say, to the patient automatically, without further prompting from you. All the places where blockages have been cleared will resonate strongly with it, and it will apply itself. there is nothing else to do - by doing this, the maximum allowable healing will have taken place.

    Me: One more question?

    of course.

    Me: Dolores Cannon has written that on occasion she argues with what I assume is the Unconscious Awareness, and at times claims to have persuaded it to carry out healings that initially had been refused. What are your thoughts on this?

    Our thoughts are very simple, [Stranger]. It is this: Dolores cannon's method is appropriate for her, but not for you. Why? You are speaking directly to the UA, she worked through the intermediary of the hypnotized person's consciousness, in its altered state. Therefore what she accomplished took in fact more effort than it would for you, including arguing with the person's hypnotized consciousness to permit it to pass her messages to the patient's UA, as you call it quite correctly. For you, the path is easier and the roadblocks are fewer.

    Me: So if the UA tells me it is not ready for healing at this time - is there anything I can do? for instance, I was quite disappointed when [one patient's] UA told me that she could not let go of her stomach pains due to lack of trust.

    we understand your query, and our answer is this: The UA knows *exactly and precisely* what is best for the developing entity. its judgment is without a flaw, in all circumstances. There is no benefit but only harm in attempting to circumvent it. This is important for you to keep in mind at all times. Therefore, if the UA says healing is inappropriate at this time, it is indeed so and you would do extremely well to thank it and move on to other targets.
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    03-12-2016, 10:36 PM
    Me: I was wondering if it may be possible to receive instructions that would be more broadly applicable than just to myself on how others could contact another's unconscious awareness?

    We understand your query and would be happy to assist. First, the unconscious awareness may be contacted by *anyone*, regardless of their level of spiritual development, as long as they are in 3rd density at the time of the contact. Therefore, no special training or preparation is necessary, although a thorough experience in meditation may be helpful in overcoming the practitioner's doubts and lack of self-confidence about trying something as radical and new as the process we have outlined for you.

    Second, the unconscious awareness is already receptive to all efforts to contact it. Most patients, as you would call them, are very desirous of any healing they could get, but indeed do not know how to go about obtaining it. Therefore their UA is primed and ready to go, so to speak, but the request still has to be made, and sadly at this time the people on your planet are not aware that a simple request, combined with a more balanced approach to whatever issue is causing their discomfort or illness in the first place, would accomplish ever so much. So a "healer" - and we use that word most judiciously, as you can see, because he or she does NOT heal at all, but simply requests a healing - becomes a necessary and very valuable part of the equation.

    Now, how would the average person on your planet go about requesting such a healing? Simply ask. Sit down in a quiet and comfortable place, take a few deep breaths to relax (or whatever else you prefer that relaxes one), and ASK. Just say the words - out loud if you wish, or mentally if you don't. it doesn't matter. "Such-and-such's Unconscious Awareness, I ask you to heal that person today. Offer him (or her) whatever healing is appropriate at this time. I thank you." And that is all. that is the truth.

    Me: Should they be thinking about that person at the time, if it is not themselves?

    Of course, but that is easy, is it not? Simply think of the person - no need to construct complex mental images. Your people tend to overcomplicate everything, because you lead such busy and complex lives. But the truth, my friends, is simple, is it not? All is one. You are One with all, whether or not you are aware of it. You can rely on that oneness - whether or not you are consciously aware of it - to accomplish for you whatever you ask, including the maximum healing consistent with anyone's level of development.

    Me: Do they need to ask permission before asking for a healing?

    No, because asking for permission is inherent in asking for a healing, as you yourself have recognized in the process of asking this question just now. We are happy to confirm it for you. You are correct.

    Me: How would they go about healing themselves? Is it the same process?

    Exactly and precisely identical. For example, they might sit down, relax and say: [My name's] Unconscious Awareness, I am reaching out to you today to ask you to effect the maximum possible healing given my state of development." And that is all that would be needed. Doesn't mean that they can leapfrog over changing their behaviors and attitudes which have resulted in the health problem in the first place, of course, as you well know. BUT, if the issue has already been addressed in the way they carry themselves through life, but the blockage and its impact remain, it will be cleared after such a working. That is the truth.

    Me: Okay, what about the second part you had taught me - applying the ideal-form to the body?

    Yes, that is in fact more complicated and requires some modicum of familiarity and experience in working with the unseen substances which comprise this Universe. That will be trickier for a true novice to accomplish, but by trying they would in fact be practicing this set of skills, and there is no possible harm that can result to it. That is the truth.

    Me: Is there anything else that it would be helpful for someone new to this to be aware of?

    Yes, there is. They should trust themselves. In them lives and breathes the One Creator in his infinite majesty, that is the truth. This working, which we described to you, is but a batting of a single eyelash and not even that in his capacity to effect miracles at all levels of what you call existence. So they should leave behind all doubt and fear in this regard, and simply experiment and play. The Unconscious Awareness will never, ever cause or allow to be caused any harm through such a working. Again, recall that this is not a mechanical application of a tool, such as, for example, in your surgery where a simple slip of the knife can cause irreparable damage. In this healing process - the only healing process that truly occurs, underneath all the trappings of what is usually done in your species' practices - you are not working with mechanical tools which can slip, but rather, with fully aware, conscious, unveiled being which knows *exactly* what it is doing -- even when you feel that you do not. So trust yourself, and trust it to do what's best, and the results will astound you. That is the truth. There is nothing else to add, and we appreciate the opportunity to speak on this topic to a broader audience. Adonai. We love you.
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    Quote:What is the ideal body-form ? I didn't understood that.

    GentleWanderer, it's essentially the original blueprint for the body, specifying how everything is supposed to work.

    When this method of healing was first explained to me, I was told that after asking the Unconscious Awareness to heal the individual, I was to take the "perfect form" of the individual's body and "bring it down" to the individual. That is what actually brings the body back in alignment with its original blueprint -- whereas blockages prevent the ideal form from informing and organizing the body's processes in the appropriate way, producing illness and dysfunction.

    As I understand it, the unconscious awareness is able to release blockages, but that is a little like taking out a bullet from someone's flesh - the wound still remains.  Over time, the ideal form will probably automatically rectify any unblocked distortions, but doing this immediately as part of the healing process should produce faster results.
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    (03-13-2016, 05:48 PM)GentleWanderer Wrote: Stranger, do you work in the healing field ?
    In this thread and an other http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=12636 you wrote about three methods of healing, one
    with the unconscious ,the other with the conscious mind (accepting the catalist and finding love in the moment), and the third
    is more medidative (like talking and embracing a wounded part of you). How do you choose between these methods to do a healing ?

    Good question!

    The approach of remaining peaceful at all times, and finding kindness/goodwill toward all, combined with a regular meditation practice is the process of conscious spiritual evolution. Do this, and life becomes progressively more joyful and amazing. Things fall into place more and more.

    When we do this, we are also acting against previously established, ego-driven habits. Do this consistently enough, and you change your personality, so that more light can come in.

    One day you may get a "test" - unexpected catalyst (i.e., unexpected stressor) which is designed to see if you've well and truly learned that lesson. I'll give you an example: I used to get really frustrated with small things. Angry even. So that was something I had to invest a great deal of effort working on, changing within myself, one opportunity at a time. You see, every stressor is an opportunity to find more happiness, if we can manage to handle it calmly and kindly.

    So one night a few years ago I was coming home, and my gas-powered scooter ran out of gas. Then it started to rain. It was dark, somewhat on the cold side, and here I am pushing this thing about half a mile to my house in the middle of the night in the rain. I would have got way bent out of shape before, but instead I said, "it is what it is" and took it as an opportunity to chant the Lord's prayer or perhaps the Gayatri Mantra and just do what had to be done, feeling perfectly content with the situation.

    As soon as I started the contented chant and peppy walk, I was told with a great deal of joy and celebration, "You passed! You passed!".

    This is illustrative of the process of consciously working with present-time catalyst to effect spiritual growth.

    The other two methods you mention have to do with clearing past catalyst that has become solidified in the body. It is possible to resolve a present-time issue, but still retain some earlier catalyst relevant to the same issue in the body. When this happens - i.e., the learning/choice has been made in the present, but the earlier catalyst remains within - it will begin causing discomfort. In meditation, I've often noticed that as I would reach a high place of joy and inspiration, I would begin to perceive either pains in various parts of the body, or after coming out of meditation would experience sudden and inexplicable presence of negative emotion. This is old catalyst coming up into the conscious awareness because you've now created an opening for it to be dealt with.

    If it's sudden negative emotion, you would deal with it the same way as any other present-time catalyst, as described above. Physical discomfort also can suddenly dissipate, if you raise yourself vibrationally to a high-enough level in your meditation (by this, I mean find love, peace, inspiration, etc.)

    But it often happens that past catalyst remains stuck in the body. For this, you can use the other two methods - which are actually two variations on one method.

    Option A: identify each stored catalyst (e.g., area of discomfort or negative emotion); ask it what it is; send that part of yourself unconditional love and acceptance until the discomfort or emotion dissipates.

    Option B: contact your unconscious awareness, and ask it to carry out maximum possible healing.

    In both cases, healing will only occur if the individual has already successfully learned the lesson that the catalyst represents, i.e., has managed to find a calm and loving way to handle that particular type of scenario, as described above in reference to handling present-day catalyst. But each option has its benefits. Option B is the fastest, easiest and most comprehensive. Option A is the most informative: you obtain conscious knowledge of what the issue or situation was that created the blockage, so that you can avoid falling into the same trap should that circumstance arise again.

    Also in both cases, you are actually working with your Unconscious Awareness to clear the blockage, in slightly different ways.

    I hope that clarifies things. Again, great question!
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    I made a wrong turn once into the drivethrough of a very slow restaurant. I was stuck in it for like 15 mins with 3 cars ahead of me but I didn't get mad once.
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    03-24-2016, 09:35 AM
    Additional clarification on the healing process. I was unclear about the following: in situations where the catalyst involves more than one person (e.g., conflict between someone and her sister), does one direct the person to send love to themselves (who feels hurt by the sister), or to the sister?

    The answer is that it does not matter, because at the level at which catalyst is processed, All is One and there is no separation. As long as the person with the catalyst is able to respond to the catalyst with pure, uncontaminated love, it will clear. However, if the person is ambivalent - still choosing to hold a grudge against her sister, for example - those feelings will continue to intrude into her attempts to feel love. The choice remains unmade and no clearing of the catalyst will take place.

    Additionally, this portion of the healing work is best termed "clearing" as opposed to "healing", because, while this clears the catalyst and the associated emotional baggage, the actual healing occurs when the "perfect light-body form" (as I've been led to call it) has been applied to the individual being healed. (the process for doing this has been described previously)
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