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    Thread: Is it hard to make harvest?


    AnthroHeart (Offline)

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    12-27-2018, 09:36 PM (This post was last modified: 12-27-2018, 09:38 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Just living our life, doing the best we can, is there a good chance we can make harvest if we don't mess up?

    I tend to be angry at times, which comes out in my dreams. I usually attack someone in my dreams that makes me mad or is hurting me in some way.
    Then I wake up so I don't have to face the consequences.

    I'm usually helpful to my mom, but I don't always do what she says because I feel like she tries to control me.

    I don't do any big things to make a difference in the world. I was hoping my writing would inspire many, but it didn't.

    So now I'm doing the best I can.

    I know others here seem to like me as a person. They compliment me, and I appreciate that.

    I am not putting myself down.

    I just don't know. Ra said that it is as hard to graduate STS as it is to graduate STO if I recall correctly.

    They never said how hard it really was.

    The only thing is I'm afraid to go out and meet people. I don't want to get lost.

    I agree more with atheists than I do with Christians. I at times even doubt the Ra Material.
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    12-27-2018, 10:51 PM
    We exist under the veil, so I don't think any of us can be sure how easy/difficult graduation is. But I suspect it's not easy on this planet, because of it's mixed polarity history and the high amount of negative distortions interwoven into human societies here on Earth. But then, what do I know?

    I'd like to be able to give you some valuable insight about polarizing and graduating, but I know very little myself. Just do your best to heal yourself of your issues and devote time to charity or something would be my best advice I could give.

    And I can relate to the being violent in dreams thing. In the past, I've dream about being a violent psychopath. Now I'm just down to occasionally having a dream where I attack someone who makes me mad and/or hurts me like you.

    I'd say it's an aspect of yourself you're unconsciously working to heal while you sleep. So maybe trying to heal yourself while you're awake is the best way to heal the violent dreams.

    As I've said before, you and I have similar issues in that we both have a lot of inner unconscious/semi-conscious fear that we have to heal. You probably also experienced some sort of trauma as an unborn and/or infant. Working to heal that trauma is possibly the most important work you can do while you're here. I suggest doing the presence building meditations and walking meditations and chanting the mantra: "Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo"

    I'm on a more powerful mantra, but that's the one I started with. Healing isn't easy, believe me. But they say in the Ra material that the best way to heal the world around you is to heal yourself, so work on self-healing and you can not only make your own life more fulfilling, but also help the world around you.
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    12-28-2018, 09:17 AM (This post was last modified: 12-28-2018, 09:33 AM by the. Edit Reason: correct grammar mistake )
    just to share my experience.
    I am using mantra "HU". there's one time I had some experience, and realized everyone is light, everyone is perfect.
    at my current level of ignorance, our world/universe, no matter it is third density/3D, fourth density/4D or whatever, it is just our 3D, 4D mind's interpretation of those light. e.g. light interference etc.
    another way of saying this is, the whole universe is just a game. :-)
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    12-28-2018, 11:04 AM
    I would say, it is light to make harvest.
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    12-28-2018, 11:21 AM
    Indigo, having read a lot of your words on this forum, I have no doubt that you are a Wanderer. Here's a couple of things to bear in mind about being a Wanderer:

    First, this is our last incarnation as third density entities prior to the Harvest. We're all clearing out any karma we acquired during our incarnations of service on this planet, so don't be too hard on yourself because of your struggles. Taking on some negative karma is both natural and a requirement of the descension process that brings us back down the densities, so you needn't feel guilty about any of it, nor do you need to be concerned that it will hold you back. Further, a lot of the struggles you're experiencing probably aren't even your karma at all! Wanderers are also localized transmuters of the karmic burdens of those around us. Even people you don't know, even if you don't meet or speak with them. Still your work on their behalf proceeds.

    Second, as a Wanderer, you have to remember that it's not the first time you've approached this transition. You've done it before, possibly multiple times. As such, and crucially, simply BEING here is an act of service, all the time, no matter how you occupy yourself. You are a higher density being who willingly took the dive back into lower densities in order to be of great service to those who haven't made that progress themselves yet. Your light is precious to Terra (the planetary soul), vital to the humans surrounding you, and a tremendous gift that you give every moment of every day. You don't need to be pulling off some additional amazing act of service in order to qualify for harvest. The sacrifice you are enduring by your mere presence here is more than enough.

    As far as violent dreams go, you shouldn't view them as any sort of indicator of your spiritual state. Rather, remember that while you are dreaming (the ones your conscious mind can retain, at least), you are wandering Earth's astral planes, and they are a terrible mess. When you're there, the brilliance of your soul's true nature is more apparent to other souls that dwell there than it is here. This bright light naturally attracts dark entities that might attack you. No actual harm can come to you, and there's nothing wrong with you fighting back, but it can definitely be unpleasant and scary.

    It used to happen to me all the time too. It doesn't any more, though, and I believe I know why. Some time ago, I realized this truth, that the darkness is violently attracted to the light, and I started doing things to cloak myself from their sight. Mostly, I just ask my higher self to grant me both protection and secrecy in going about my business here on the planet, whether in the physical or the astrals. I visualize some shielding as well, but mostly I think the intention and the stated free-will request for help is the crucial part. This has been completely effective.

    In fact, just this morning I woke up from a bizarre, hyper-vivid dream that was so strange that I immediately asked my higher self about it. I was told that I had been in a lower-middle level of the astral planes. It took the form of a vast, ancient city. Everything was incredibly filthy and decrepit, a labyrinth of run-down buildings, as if people had been building on top of ruins for tens of thousands of years. It was just chock full of people. Many of them were crazed, and seemed trapped in their own experiences. But the large majority seemed like fairly normal people, just living what seemed to be fairly ordinary lives that wouldn't be out of place in a crowded city on Earth. What was interesting to me is that I was pretty much invisible to them. There were a few occasions where I encountered a rather threatening person that caused me to be concerned for my own safety in this dangerous-seeming environment. But none of them seemed to have any idea that I was there. The only ones who seemed to be able to sense my presence at all were the saner, friendlier souls (like in a very crowded, funky old restaurant that I made my way through at one point), and they merely gave me a tiny friendly nod and moved a bit to let me pass by.

    I think that the timing of this experience was not a coincidence, given that you and Phoenix's comments about dream violence were here waiting for me to find this morning. So I would recommend trying to hide yourself from the darkness. My higher self once told me that if I was concerned about darker experiences in my dreams, I could specifically ask for protection from that before going to bed and it would be granted. I very rarely remember to do so now, but given that I shield myself from both harm and detection every time I meditate or communicate with my higher self, neglecting to specifically ask before I go to bed doesn't seem to matter.

    My life really has been noticeably lighter and brighter since I started doing this. Hopefully it'll work for you guys as well.

    But whatever else you do, don't concern yourself with whether or not you will make harvest. You've done it. You're there. It's happening, and it's happening thanks to your efforts. And who knows...maybe if you take some of these precautions, your more active efforts to be of service won't be as effectively countered by the darkness as they have been in the past.
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    12-28-2018, 05:27 PM
    Thanks for the tips Fuse.

    I pray for healing dreams before I go to sleep. Haven't had a violent dream yet since I started doing that. But I'll be sure to add in protection and secrecy into my dreams as well. Thanks for the advice.

    I can't communicate with my higher self in the way you do. It would be awesome if I could. Maybe my higher self could help me know what to do regarding my resistance to my healing exercises.

    It just occurred to me though that while we're here, we're being given lessons to learn, and in Indigo's case and mine, it regards healing fear from early trauma. I'm worried if I don't heal and learn my spiritual lessons that revolve around this fear, I'll have to reincarnate in 3rd density again and continue with my learning until my lesson is complete. It might be that way for both Indigo and I.

    Does anybody know what Ra has to say about this?
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    12-28-2018, 05:30 PM (This post was last modified: 12-28-2018, 05:31 PM by xise.)
    Quote:74.11 ▶ Questioner: Now, what I am trying to get at is how these disciplines affect the energy centers and the power, shall I say, of the white magician. Could you, will you tell me how that works?

    Ra: I am Ra. The heart of the discipline of the personality is threefold. One, know yourself. Two, accept yourself. Three, become the Creator.

    The third step is that step which, when accomplished, renders one the most humble servant of all, transparent in personality and completely able to know and accept other-selves. In relation to the pursuit of the magical working the continuing discipline of the personality involves the adept in knowing itself, accepting itself, and thus clearing the path towards the great indigo gateway to the Creator. To become the Creator is to become all that there is. There is then no personality in the sense with which the adept begins its learn/teaching. As the consciousness of the indigo ray becomes more crystalline, more work may be done; more may be expressed from intelligent infinity.

    I think it's hard to polarize because you want to harvest. Polarization comes from the core of your being - the discovery of who you are underneath all that distortion - that's why I referenced the above quote. So self-discovery of the true deep self/nature of reality, healing of distortion, this is what naturally becomes polarization, which naturally ends up being harvested.

    Focusing on the harvest is like focusing on the grade you get in a class, instead of truly falling in love with the subject being taught - and the subject matter here is the Creator. Both can work, but the latter method more fully lends itself to deeper study and flow, while the former one is a more distanced approach to learning.
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    12-28-2018, 09:15 PM
    (12-28-2018, 11:21 AM)Fuse Wrote: Second, as a Wanderer, you have to remember that it's not the first time you've approached this transition. You've done it before, possibly multiple times. As such, and crucially, simply BEING here is an act of service, all the time, no matter how you occupy yourself. You are a higher density being who willingly took the dive back into lower densities in order to be of great service to those who haven't made that progress themselves yet. Your light is precious to Terra (the planetary soul), vital to the humans surrounding you, and a tremendous gift that you give every moment of every day. You don't need to be pulling off some additional amazing act of service in order to qualify for harvest. The sacrifice you are enduring by your mere presence here is more than enough.

    Agree.

    Is it hard to make harvest? Yes it is.

    I have been told by my Spirit Guides that the path to graduation is like a dance. Sometimes its two steps forward, one step backwards. And sometimes its three steps forward, four steps backwards. The important thing is to stay in the dance.
     
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    12-28-2018, 09:30 PM
    So I should just strive to always better myself. I think that should be enough.
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    12-28-2018, 10:15 PM
    (12-28-2018, 09:15 PM)Wai Wrote: I have been told by my Spirit Guides that the path to graduation is like a dance. Sometimes its two steps forward, one step backwards. And sometimes its three steps forward, four steps backwards. The important thing is to stay in the dance.

    Hey, my brain likes this wobbling model. It feels like generating electricity.
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    12-28-2018, 10:59 PM
    (12-28-2018, 05:30 PM)xise Wrote: I think it's hard to polarize because you want to harvest. Polarization comes from the core of your being - the discovery of who you are underneath all that distortion - that's why I referenced the above quote. So self-discovery of the true deep self/nature of reality, healing of distortion, this is what naturally becomes polarization, which naturally ends up being harvested.

    Focusing on the harvest is like focusing on the grade you get in a class, instead of truly falling in love with the subject being taught - and the subject matter here is the Creator. Both can work, but the latter method more fully lends itself to deeper study and flow, while the former one is a more distanced approach to learning.
    Yes. The third density is not one of knowing. We penetrate the forgetting enough to know what we are and what our mission is, to give us the confidence to carry out a challenging life of service to others. Not to know where we are on the "ranking", which could in fact make it harder to polarize because then one is thinking about one's self and where one stands against another one. Catalyst here is in the form of the sorrows and joys, the doing and the being open to opportunities to do. Service to others doesn't mean that 51% or more of the time, you are serving, but 51% or more of the time, you are open to serve, you are viewing others as your other self and you are oriented towards those opportunities. If you are faced with the opportunity to serve another-self, you accept that opportunity and do the best you can with what you've been given.

    Your light radiates out from you from the core of that openness, the open heart willing to serve another-self when the opportunity springs forth from the catalyst all around in this place. All wanderers have stepped down here to be in the third density experience as a lighthouse, and live their life from start to finish, death included at the end, in the limitations of the third density.

    Don't focus on the harvest, but on the experience. Time is not a linear flow and it is not a "trap" to experience third density repeatedly, but simply what is the reality, the love/light of the creator chose to experience everything and that experiencing is within us.

    I imagine it's a bit like each life is one animation slide making a whole film, and there is not just the animation but also the soundtrack, but we're here seeing it from the perspective of just one single frame of the animation not yet strung together. Your Higher Self is constructed from all the parts of the film, and the film is a franchise, and so on and so forth. Yet held up against the whole film it's not bad that it's made from hundreds and thousands of stills flickering together into one whole, and it's not bad that the final product includes not just those drawings but also music, and it's not bad that the company decided to make seven more films in the franchise and then a remake of the one you loved... it just is. An animator cannot sit in front of the frame they're drawing and ask themselves "but why isn't the whole movie done yet?" Their work is to draw that one frame, and the next one seems barely different, a daunting and time-consuming task which when it's over, is over in an instant and never really appreciated for the painstaking craft of each frame, but as a whole. Be at peace with drawing the animation frame by frame, or it will never happen. Be at peace with the fact that there are hundreds more artists also drawing towards the same final product, because if they do not contribute, it will never happen. That's how I make peace with my place here as a third density being, anyway. It's not everything, it's just the experience I'm in now.

    I have more to say in this topic on the regards of connecting to one's higher self and psychic protections, and will do my best to return later and write about that.
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    12-29-2018, 02:17 AM
    You have a good heart Indigo, thanks for sharing it with us.
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    12-29-2018, 11:36 AM (This post was last modified: 12-29-2018, 02:12 PM by Infinite Unity.)
    (12-27-2018, 09:36 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Just living our life, doing the best we can, is there a good chance we can make harvest if we don't mess up?

    I tend to be angry at times, which comes out in my dreams. I usually attack someone in my dreams that makes me mad or is hurting me in some way.
    Then I wake up so I don't have to face the consequences.

    I'm usually helpful to my mom, but I don't always do what she says because I feel like she tries to control me.

    I don't do any big things to make a difference in the world. I was hoping my writing would inspire many, but it didn't.

    So now I'm doing the best I can.

    I know others here seem to like me as a person. They compliment me, and I appreciate that.

    I am not putting myself down.

    I just don't know. Ra said that it is as hard to graduate STS as it is to graduate STO if I recall correctly.

    They never said how hard it really was.

    The only thing is I'm afraid to go out and meet people. I don't want to get lost.

    I agree more with atheists than I do with Christians. I at times even doubt the Ra Material.

    It is usually extremely difficult to become harvestable. Its not due to a skill set, technique, or magical system that requires skill to exceed. This is an inner struggle, the battle of titanic clashings, back and forth the struggle will seem to consume and demand the attention of all of your being. Gnashing of teeth, lonelinesses, confusion, glorious love, euphoria, and realization. To travel the road of a seeker, that leads to LOVE, to harvestability. Will at points require every last bit of strength, vitality, comfort, and will. To be born again One must pass through death.

    It is the Gauntlet.


    To achieve harvestability, is by far the hardest thing to do. (In terms of technical working, magical technique and efficacy, reaching the eighth would be that.)
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    12-29-2018, 06:17 PM
    Well that sucks.
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    12-29-2018, 06:33 PM
    (12-29-2018, 11:36 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: To be born again One must pass through death.
    Like Phoenix arising from the ashes Wink Yes, it's hard.
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    12-30-2018, 11:20 AM
    (12-29-2018, 06:17 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Well that sucks.

    You are already along the path. There is nothing to fear, As i stated above. This is a titanic clashing of inner turmoil. In the LOO its referenced or summarized as The Choice. The Choice is a summaration of a very deep "inner conflict".
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    12-30-2018, 11:25 AM
    (12-29-2018, 06:17 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Well that sucks.

    It's quite alright, you are no different than others. I believe the most difficult part was to decide to forget and incarnate into illusion.

    But thinking of the love and compassion we must have had when we decided that, it fills me with hope. It should you too. Try and drop your worry, and simply be. That is what you came here to do. Bring peace about yourself and that peace will radiate to the whole world, through you, not by you.  Smile
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    12-31-2018, 08:14 AM
    Oh so many thoughts! What a marvelous thread.

    Phoenix, I was already confident that you have no cause for worry about making harvest. But because it's a concern, I simply asked my higher self and masters about it on your behalf, and they confirmed for me (joyfully I might add) that ALL who participate in this community are wanderers, that ALL of you are beloved and guarded. If you were in some danger of not making harvest, they would intervene at your behest (as long as you made the free will request, and you clearly have. If there remains any doubt, feel free to declare it out loud one more time, just to be sure.) But they clarified that such an intervention is not remotely necessary. You'll make harvest on your own terms, and heal yourself accordingly. If you wish to speak in terms of percentages, simply being here as a wanderer handles the baseline 51%, if not dramatically more. Add your efforts to serve on top of that if you're going to try to estimate your success, but as others have well pointed out, you don't need to worry about it. You've already knocked it out of the park.

    Don't judge your harvestability by external factors. Things that we suffer here are not indications of harvestability. They're the side effects of being high vibrational beings who have incarnated into a low vibrational environment.

    I'm sorry that you don't hear your higher self the way I do, but I am reminded of several things: first, it's possible that my ability to do so is just a gifting, and we're all gifted differently, so I wouldn't read much into it. It's also possible that some specific efforts I have undertaken in this lifetime worked to establish that connection, so just in case it might be helpful, I will share the story.

    I first became deeply interested in spiritual things a little over twenty years ago. My chosen path at the time involved the Kabbalah, which I studied through the Golden Dawn magical system (Israel Regardie's eponymous book was my main source). I approached it alone, pursuing a path of self-initiation, as I knew of no temple I could have joined. (More on this later, but I have since come to believe that this was dangerous.) A couple years into my dabbling in it, I felt moved to really buckle down and pursue advancement through its ranks. I worked through Zelator, Theoricus, Practicus, and Philosophus, each with a lot of study and gaining of knowledge, and giving myself tests on it, etc. As I recall, each rank had an initiation ritual that I performed to mark "achieving" it. I approached Adeptus Minor the same way, and prepared for months for that rank's ceremony, which is supposed to mark some transition from the GD's outer order into the loftier, more esoteric ranks.

    The Golden Dawn system had, as its stated goal, achieving the "knowledge and conversation of the holy guardian angel." In other words, achieving connection with the Higher Self. Well, during that Adeptus Minor initiation ceremony, I had a truly profound experience, and I now believe that it marked a certain level of success at that goal. However, it was not what I expected. At a climactic moment in the ritual, a Thought flashed through my mind. I would now describe it as a telepathic communication. It was like the entirety of the message was received in one instantaneous moment, and my brain then translated it into words that I could understand. Those words amounted to "I appreciate that you are seeking me, but this is NOT the right way!"

    I was both stunned and horrified at the rebuke. I finished the ritual in a sort of perfunctory way, as I understood one shouldn't leave summoned energies flying around like that, but I think I was in a state of shock. My beliefs were crumbling around me.

    A couple days later, I was sitting on the floor depressed, looking at this shelf of books that I had collected during my studies. All of them were about magic, and I now felt like I had been told that magic was wrong. (I'm not so sure I drew the right conclusions about this, but it set me up for the next phase.)

    The only book I had on that shelf that wasn't about magic was a copy of the Bible. Now I had been raised around a Christian extended family, and was mostly unimpressed with how their spirituality colored their daily lives. I had, at that time, a pretty low opinion of the Christian faith generally. But it occurred to me that the Old Testament was basically Jewish, as was the Kabbalah. Walking away from a spiritual life entirely just never seemed like an option at all, so I shrugged and pulled the Bible out.

    I bought a book on modern Judaism, which took me nowhere (I found it to be an even more vacant faith of empty rituals than the Christianity I had been exposed to). But the Old Testament...well, things like the Psalms started speaking to me. I started a little tradition of lighting a candle and reading from the Old Testament. I started praying Psalms. I started praying to God, to put it simply. I guess you would say that I stepped onto a devotional path.

    I wasn't interested in the New Testament. But then, life hit me with a curveball again. I was working as a night manager at a hotel, and was training a new hire. This guy made a great impression on me, he was really friendly, almost impossible not to like. It was just us for eight hours, and after a week or two, he told me that he was a Christian, and asked if I had ever considered becoming born-again myself.

    Well, I had not. But then, my spiritual worldview was more or less still collapsed around me. I guess you could say I was something of a plowed field. He planted a seed, and it didn't take more than another day or two for me to go "hmmmm....maybe that's why this all happened?"

    So I made peace with Jesus and finally cracked open the New Testament.

    I lived the next ten years as a very committed, born again, evangelical Christian. I prayed A LOT, went to church every Sunday, tithed my ten percent. I sought forgiveness for what I had come to perceive as a sinful earlier life. I came to believe that it was God the Father (ie-the One Infinite Creator) who had spoken to me that night during the Adeptus Minor ceremony, or maybe Jesus, and that that rebuke had saved me from a dangerous path that would have doomed my soul. I never heard that voice again, but God was clearly at work in my life, and I could see a guiding hand leading me through events.

    I also became, weirdly, something of a judgmental jerk. The ideas one gets from the pulpit in many Christian churches can lead one down some dark paths, I'm afraid. It's almost as if a dark spirit came over me, rather than the spirit of holy enlightenment one might have expected, given my degree of devotion. It caused rifts with members of my family, the loss of friends. I gave up many of the things I had been passionate about earlier in life, music for example. I was pursuing holiness, but I think that I accidentally landed on dogma instead.

    It was music that ultimately turned things around. Phoenix, I think I shared some of this with you before, but since it's part of the story, I'll repeat it here. I had been a guitar player earlier in my life, and I really missed it. I didn't feel like God had directed me into any other avenues of service, and I couldn't stop thinking about music, so I decided to take up the guitar again and see if maybe God had opportunities for me there. Before giving it up, I had been learning to improvise on the guitar, and I went right back to it.

    I would throw something on the stereo with long solo sections and would just jam along, trying to get better at improvising, and I did improve. After a year or two of this, something strange started to happen. Every now and then, it was as if my mind would sort of go blank, and REALLY great music would start coming out of my fingers. It felt very much like "I" was getting out of the way and letting some cosmic music from the Lord flow through me. Sometimes, when it was going particularly well, I would SEE these weird patterns, particularly if my eyes were closed. At first they looked kind of like fractals or something, and they often seemed to be rotating. Finally, after a while, it hit me...and I was completely blown away. They were mandalas. Spinning mandalas.

    I had been inadvertantly meditating. I was channeling music.

    At the same time, I started experiencing weird sensations in my chest, around what I now understand was the area of my heart chakra. Not knowing that what I was experiencing was the opening of my sacred heart, I began to fear that I was developing heart problems and started having massive panic attacks whenever it would happen. This started a period of several years of confusion and fear and medication, and more setbacks.

    But something else began to happen. When I prayed...I started hearing a response. It was a very still, very small voice...hard to distinguish from my own thoughts. But there was a voice there.

    I was also beginning to see the corruption of modern Christianity. I had read the Bible something like eight times through by that point, and had begun to see the rather shocking ways in which the behavior of Christians in this world often flatly contradicts the teachings of Christ I was reading about, particularly from those higher profile Christians who were engaged in political arenas. This finally led me to understand that the Light in the world attracts the attention of darkness. Sometimes, before I learned to protect myself, even the words I would hear when praying would get hijacked. I could always tell when the message was from something other than the Light, but it was still a disturbing revelation of how vulnerable we can be here.

    On the other hand, it finally brought me full circle. I finally began to see my two decades of adventures in spirituality as a whole process that had led me down a path I needed to walk. In seeking to understand ways to protect myself and keep my communications with God pure, I began to see that maybe I hadn't understood the full nuance of that original message from my Higher Self. Delightfully, I found the Law of One, a jaw-dropping series of messages channeled by a woman who loved Jesus as much as I did, who in conjunction with dear friends, used the same white magical techniques I had become familiar with in the Golden Dawn to reach up into the heavens and draw down astonishing truths about the reality of the universe. It was like my whole life had prepared me to receive exactly this set of truths. Now I finally understood who I am, and why all of this happened to me.

    That [very] long account might seem disheartening, because my path to reach the point where I can hear and understand the voices of my higher self and guides and masters was a very long one. But that's the exciting thing! It needn't be that long! I was stumbling along in the darkness of ignorance, slowly piecing together the truth. But you're already here! You've already found it! And further, as the whole world approaches the threshold of its heavenly remodeling, the veils that I had to work so hard to pierce, through both deliberate formalized effort and accidental devotional perseverance, are falling away of their own accord! It's not so hard now!

    If you want to hear your higher self as I do, then state that desire, declare your intention to receive that gift, and then meditate your heart out. Talk to your higher self and then listen very carefully, paying particular attention to the first thoughts that pass through your mind. Sooner or later, if you stick with it, you will get there. I don't think it will take you very long.

    Or don't worry about it! Instead, focus on living life and enjoying what remains of third density. Either way you will be of service. Either way you will be performing your mission here in a way for which the Infinite Creator is profoundly grateful and proud of you.

    And definitely don't worry about harvest. The party's already planned, your seat at the table is already secured.
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    12-31-2018, 08:40 AM
    (12-31-2018, 08:14 AM)Fuse Wrote: They were mandalas. Spinning mandalas.

    At the same time, I started experiencing weird sensations in my chest, around what I now understand was the area of my heart chakra. Not knowing that what I was experiencing was the opening of my sacred heart,

    wow, great article, thank you very much for sharing it, yes, I had similar experience mentioned above.
    after reading your post, i realized what I saw before might be spinning mandalas. (different than mandalas pictures), and/or fractals.

    just to share my experience. sometimes i re-post others articles without fully reading it, it's because my third eye or heart chakra had some feeling/sensations when reading them, so I assume those articles has some "energy" that is beyond this 3D world.
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    12-31-2018, 12:11 PM
    Thank you Fuse for sharing your story and for easing my worries about harvest.

    I wish I were good at guitar. But I dunno how to practice. My Babymetal idea didn't work out. I'm thinking of just practicing along with this "Heavy Metal Rhythm Guitar in 6 weeks" DVD I found on Youtube. There's SO MUCH I wanna be able to do on guitar and yet so little I can actually do. Maybe when I've done that metal rhythm guitar thing, it'll be easier to follow along with different songs? Although I am taking it slower than the videos intend. Working at my own speed, so to speak.
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    12-31-2018, 03:28 PM
    Fundamentals are probably important. I kind of get the feeling that the Babymetal plan was like trying to learn painting by first attempting to recreate the ceiling of the Cistine Chapel. Those kids are nuts! Wink I'm reminded that well before I got good at guitar, I was a band nerd playing the saxophone in school. So I learned a lot about the fundamentals of music and played a lot of it, and spent a few years being terrible, then mediocre, at those things before I ever picked up the guitar. I probably picked up some innate sense of how music works from all that experience, and that made guitar an easier transition.

    I was also lucky because when I was starting guitar, it was like 1993 and everyone was into Nirvana. It was all easy power chords. Basically, paint-by-numbers level difficulty.

    I have no better advice, though, than that you keep working at your own speed. THAT will serve you better than anything.
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    12-31-2018, 03:37 PM
    (12-31-2018, 03:28 PM)Fuse Wrote: Fundamentals are probably important. I kind of get the feeling that the Babymetal plan was like trying to learn painting by first attempting to recreate the ceiling of the Cistine Chapel. Those kids are nuts! Wink  I'm reminded that well before I got good at guitar, I was a band nerd playing the saxophone in school. So I learned a lot about the fundamentals of music and played a lot of it, and spent a few years being terrible, then mediocre, at those things before I ever picked up the guitar. I probably picked up some innate sense of how music works from all that experience, and that made guitar an easier transition.

    I was also lucky because when I was starting guitar, it was like 1993 and everyone was into Nirvana. It was all easy power chords. Basically, paint-by-numbers level difficulty.

    I have no better advice, though, than that you keep working at your own speed. THAT will serve you better than anything.

    Yeah, I need to learn the basics of heavy metal rhythm guitar and guitar in general before I start trying to learn difficult songs. I think I'll also learn those beginner level songs, but I'll wait until I've got all the fundamentals down before trying to tackle a difficult song. Dunno which one I'll try to tackle when I do though.
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    12-31-2018, 04:22 PM
    (12-28-2018, 11:21 AM)Fuse Wrote: ... Terra (the planetary soul), vital to the humans surrounding you, and a tremendous gift that you give every moment of every day...

    Excellent post, couldnt read the most of it due to it being of such high density and purity, blessings to those that did, here is something that to me, speaks well of terra:



    Here is the rest of her story:



    Long story but well worth the watch, consider it a TV show with 12, 4 hour episodes. If you've ever wanted to know what makes me tick, watch this, that is all. Good post once again.
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    12-31-2018, 04:32 PM
    (12-31-2018, 03:37 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Yeah, I need to learn the basics of heavy metal rhythm guitar

    I thought some articles say "heavy metal rhythm " is not good for spiritual development. some classical music is good.

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    12-31-2018, 06:55 PM
    (12-31-2018, 08:14 AM)Fuse Wrote: ALL who participate in this community are wanderers, that ALL of you are beloved and guarded. [...]

    Don't judge your harvestability by external factors. Things that we suffer here are not indications of harvestability. They're the side effects of being high vibrational beings who have incarnated into a low vibrational environment.

    [...You see that person? That's me. I bet you're wondering how I got here, but I cut the quote down to keep the size down...]

    In seeking to understand ways to protect myself and keep my communications with God pure, I began to see that maybe I hadn't understood the full nuance of that original message from my Higher Self. Delightfully, I found the Law of One, a jaw-dropping series of messages channeled by a woman who loved Jesus as much as I did, who in conjunction with dear friends, used the same white magical techniques I had become familiar with in the Golden Dawn to reach up into the heavens and draw down astonishing truths about the reality of the universe. It was like my whole life had prepared me to receive exactly this set of truths. Now I finally understood who I am, and why all of this happened to me.

    That [very] long account might seem disheartening, because my path to reach the point where I can hear and understand the voices of my higher self and guides and masters was a very long one. But that's the exciting thing! It needn't be that long! [...more nice things cut to keep the quote size down read the original post...]

    If you want to hear your higher self as I do, then state that desire, declare your intention to receive that gift, and then meditate your heart out. Talk to your higher self and then listen very carefully, paying particular attention to the first thoughts that pass through your mind. Sooner or later, if you stick with it, you will get there. I don't think it will take you very long.

    Or don't worry about it! Instead, focus on living life and enjoying what remains of third density. Either way you will be of service. Either way you will be performing your mission here in a way for which the Infinite Creator is profoundly grateful and proud of you.

    And definitely don't worry about harvest. The party's already planned, your seat at the table is already secured.
    When someone else's Higher Self just swoops on in and answers all the questions. Love that yours is like "obviously all these people are wanderers", no sh–we all made it here on the merit of our interest in the rhetoric, and that would not happen without some piece of our soul yearning for it.

    My journey unfolds a different way, beginning with that Christianity and eventually leading to a point where my mind was open enough to look at Carla and smile and see someone who loved Jesus as much as I do, who is open to serve the light, because initially I was told such things were 100% of the darkness all of the time.

    Connecting to your higher self is difficult, it's done on their terms and of course they're filtering whatever you get. This is the process I now use to connect after I reach a meditative trance state where I'm receptive.

    -State your desire.
    -Ask for them to help you.
    -Thank them for their service.

    I have ironed it to this three set process, this is in fact a shorthand because each step of this, which is what I use to begin the contact, I include clarification regarding who and what I would like to connect to, I state what I am and trying to achieve, I am thankful throughout.

    I have found this a way of verifying what I've connected to; if I thank them for their service to me, any higher polarized entity I've connected to has always responded in turn with a flowing grateful love for my service, not to them, but to everything around me, and a crushing well of humility which never fails to bring me to immediate tears, that they are grateful in turn, to me, for reaching out to them, not for help for myself, but to get tools to serve in this experience, this response in enveloping, grateful love that yes, they are here to serve and they recognize that I too am here to serve and we are in perfect harmony with our aching unity to lift the sorrow, they're utterly humbled that they can offer to me tools to help spread love here and I'm utterly humbled that such a being would even speak to me and it's overwhelming and I don't think a lot of humans are prepared to grab that live wire of humble love.

    Trying to relate this sensation is so overwhelming it immediately drives me to tears. I don't have the words quite prepared for it. Know that a higher density connection of love and light can be fraught with ugly tears–I see those tears as the shadow of the truth which brought me here, all of us brothers and sisters in sorrow and light. I can't even edit that last paragraph, to be honest, I ducked back to add a few commas because I knew I had a run-on and I'm back in tears for the third time this post. So I'm not sure that one's from just me, as the subsequent relation of my journey here was written successfully tear-free.

    I connected to a neutral entity once and they were not grateful, they simply stated as such that they were observers and surprised that I'd telepathically reached them and were greeting me similarly, out of curiosity.

    It didn't take me long to reach a point where I could enter these depths? Compared to some, anyway. I believe it's some of my purpose, and I intentionally selected a life with maximum catalyst needed to get me to the point where I could do this service; if you take longer to connect to your higher self, perhaps it's because your higher self decided to incarnate here for the catalyst of joys and sorrows in the doing and the being, all of which will ultimately bring your soul to the harvest, to that great end there is no escape, only the journey, no "missing out". Even every person here focused completely on their selves will make it... eventually... perhaps in many future incarnations.

    I got to the depths by putting myself into a quiet place, shutting up and listening.

    I believe I primed myself for this by doing a lot of "speed writing" and "improvisation" challenges, getting out of my way to channel fiction. Creative improvisation, setting my mind aside to automatically accept what was handed to me by creative infinity, though I wouldn't have called it that then. I suspect many of us make our connections via the path of creativity, any creative task where you're in a time crunch or somehow spitballing without thinking about it. And I have channeled music, though I'm not educated in that realm so I don't know how to get it out of my head, so I just make up little musicals through my life, singing what I do when those moments hit, or hum along to the ambient noise of the universe. I suspect this allows me to connect to an automatic writing channel, which is not how I make all of these connections, but it's one way.

    I don't have a great metaphor to describe how there's two halves to you going on, and the trick to making a connection is distracting one half. This is why hypnosis might have you counting down from 100, or scrying has you staring into a crystal ball, or maybe you're using prayer beads and reciting a set amount of Hail Marys or you're meditating on a mantra or–honestly the method doesn't matter at all. You get the logical part of your brain distracted and set on the routine of doing that thing. In the case of my initial entry into what I think is a little tendril of creative infinity, half of me is distracted by the act of typing, and the other half is simply reaching out, receiving, and passing it down. So the logical half that would be asking questions is distracted. Maybe that's Red, Orange, and Yellow Ray all getting distracted. Dunno. This is where the intention setting part comes into play. You need to tell upper you what its task is beforehand, that's because its task as a receiver isn't to be conversational, it's to serve as the channel, to listen and relate and translate.

    If you do make a connection, always challenge it. On the concept of psychic protection, perhaps I'll wander back later. Heh wander.
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    (12-31-2018, 04:32 PM)the Wrote: I thought some articles say "heavy metal rhythm " is not good for spiritual development. some classical music is good.

    I don't believe there's anything inherently evil about any creative art humans involve themselves in. Certainly in the earlier days, whether of rock and roll generally, or metal particularly, there were attempts by darkness to take over these arts and make them effective tools at dragging peoples' vibration down. They tried it with jazz, they tried it with blues. Heck, forms of classical music were controversial and accused of being evil, going back hundreds of years. But all along, on balance, the creative arts bring joy to people. Even people that like to wear skull rings and black leather and thrash around in mosh pits. The joyous abandon of humans enjoying their created arts is quite pleasing to God.

    (12-31-2018, 06:55 PM)Tae Wrote: I have found this a way of verifying what I've connected to; if I thank them for their service to me, any higher polarized entity I've connected to has always responded in turn with a flowing grateful love for my service, not to them, but to everything around me, and a crushing well of humility which never fails to bring me to immediate tears, that they are grateful in turn, to me, for reaching out to them, not for help for myself, but to get tools to serve in this experience, this response in enveloping, grateful love that yes, they are here to serve and they recognize that I too am here to serve and we are in perfect harmony with our aching unity to lift the sorrow, they're utterly humbled that they can offer to me tools to help spread love here and I'm utterly humbled that such a being would even speak to me and it's overwhelming and I don't think a lot of humans are prepared to grab that live wire of humble love.

    YES! Yes, that's exactly it!!
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    01-01-2019, 01:23 PM (This post was last modified: 01-01-2019, 01:34 PM by loostudent.)
    (12-31-2018, 04:32 PM)the Wrote:
    (12-31-2018, 03:37 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Yeah, I need to learn the basics of heavy metal rhythm guitar

    I thought some articles say "heavy metal rhythm " is not good for spiritual development. some classical music is good.

    Music is meant for beauty. From my experience some heavy metal CAN express light or an aspect of our Creator. However it depends what is beneficial for an individual, what someone needs more. A shy man and an agressive man need different "food".

    From time to time I feel male energy (yang) deficiency and metal music helps me to connect with my manliness. It infuses courage, decisiveness, power (see male archetypes) ... Every male is also a female so the gentler side also shouldn't be neglected. That's why I like prog music - it expresses male and female principle.
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    01-01-2019, 06:42 PM
    (01-01-2019, 11:02 AM)Fuse Wrote: YES! Yes, that's exactly it!!
    Blush It does feel inadequate trying to shape words around it, but so it is and I'm glad you've tapped it too.
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    01-02-2019, 06:42 PM
    (12-28-2018, 09:30 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: So I should just strive to always better myself. I think that should be enough.

    Actually, gw, I think that your fear with harvest is that you distort the process into a matter of worth or achievement, while it is simply a matter of alignment of will. You see the spiritual path as amassing points, while there is nothing to gain on this path other than knowledge of the self.

    For an unharvestable entity to say that it desires to harvest would hint toward a lack of understanding toward the actual thing, or of itself and what it actually desires. Afterall people make their opinion based on what they imagine in their mind, which is bound to fears and beliefs.

    I think being unharvestable equates to that: if you were presented with the opportunity, you would reject it. The choice is your own.
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