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    Thread: Sexual energy transfer


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    03-24-2011, 08:01 AM
    I've always been a giver, so I can't relate to all of a sudden figuring it out.

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    03-24-2011, 08:54 AM
    Well, yossaarian and Derek, you tell similar stories (although Derek, you didn't go into the details, so I'll go ahead and make the assumption that what you did was same as yossarian so please correct me if I am wrong). What I understand from your experiencies is that you both saw your partner as the Creator, but you didn't experience anything perticular or special for yourselves. So why is that? Is that because you didn't open up completely and made yourselves vulnerable? You didn't see yourselves as the Creator? You only gave without opening up to the receiving part? RA explains that balance from the bisexual activity of sexual energy transfer is both giving and receiving of female/male energy. So was the problem for you not to feel anything perticular is that because you didn't allow yourselves to also receive, you only gave? Could you please think about it and write down your thoughts? These questions are important, I think, if one wants to follow this sexual energy transfer path to unite with The One.

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    03-24-2011, 09:27 AM
    Very good point, sister :¬)

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    03-24-2011, 09:59 AM
    Doesn't Ra say that when imbalance is present, the giver is left with an unquenchable* desire ?

    It could be that the heavily satisfied Wink partner was usurping all the energy for self, and not offering any energy. This could be a very one sided exchange. The balance should come when both are unified in giiving, IMO.

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    03-24-2011, 11:23 AM
    (03-24-2011, 08:54 AM)Ankh Wrote: What I understand from your experiencies is that you both saw your partner as the Creator, but you didn't experience anything perticular or special for yourselves. So why is that? Is that because you didn't open up completely and made yourselves vulnerable? You didn't see yourselves as the Creator? You only gave without opening up to the receiving part? RA explains that balance from the bisexual activity of sexual energy transfer is both giving and receiving of female/male energy. So was the problem for you not to feel anything perticular is that because you didn't allow yourselves to also receive, you only gave?

    Very good points. In my experience, it most definitely works both ways, for both my husband and me.

    At first, I was the one having the spiritual experiences and the heart chakra energies, whereas for him it was mostly physical. As our relationship progressed and we became closer thru life's experiences, and became more vulnerable to each other, and shared our deepest thoughts, fears, issues, etc., it was reflected in our lovemaking. The most intense experiences were after we connected emotionally, and had very little to do with what we did physically.

    Then, as his heart chakra opened up, my higher centers began to open up. This in turn seemed to raise the experience for him as well.

    Ra indicates a difference in the roles of men and women, and my experience backs that up as true.

    There is an old saying that men use sex to connect emotionally, whereas women want to connect emotionally before having sex. This might seem like a chauvanistic cliche, but I think there is some truth to it, based on this quote:

    Quote:31.1 Questioner: I have a question that the instrument has asked me to ask. It reads: You speak of various types of energy blockages and transfers, positive and negative, that may take place due to participation in our sexual reproductive complex of actions. Could you please explain these blockages and energy transfers with emphasis upon what an individual who is seeking to be in accordance with the Law of One may positively do in this area? Is it possible for you to answer this question?
    Ra: I am Ra. It is partially possible, given the background we have laid. This is properly a more advanced question. Due to the specificity of the question we may give a general answer.

    The first energy transfer is red ray. It is a random transfer having to do only with your reproductive system.

    The orange and the yellow ray attempts to have sexual intercourse create, firstly, a blockage if only one entity vibrates in this area, thus causing the entity vibrating sexually in this area to have a never-ending appetite for this activity. What these vibratory levels are seeking is green ray activity. There is the possibility of orange or yellow ray energy transfer; this being polarizing towards the negative: one being seen as object rather than otherself; the other seeing itself as plunderer or master of the situation.

    In green ray there are two possibilities. Firstly, if both vibrate in green ray there will be a mutually strengthening energy transfer, the negative or female, as you call it, drawing the energy from the roots of the being-ness through the energy centers, thus being physically revitalized; the positive, or male polarity, as it is deemed in your illusion, finding in its energy transfer an inspiration which satisfies and feeds the spirit portion of the body/mind/spirit complex, thus both being polarized and releasing the excess of that which each has in abundance by nature of intelligent energy, that is, negative/intuitive, positive/physical energies as you may call them; this energy transfer being blocked only if one or both entities have fear of possession or of being possessed, of desiring possession or desiring being possessed.

    The other green ray possibility is that of one entity offering green ray energy, the other not offering energy of the universal love energy, this resulting in a blockage of energy for the one not green ray thus increasing frustration or appetite; the green ray being polarizing slightly towards service to others.

    The blue ray energy transfer is somewhat rare among your people at this time but is of great aid due to energy transfers involved in becoming able to express the self without reservation or fear.

    The indigo ray transfer is extremely rare among your people. This is the sacramental portion of the body complex whereby contact may be made through violet ray with intelligent infinity. No blockages may occur at these latter two levels due to the fact that if both entities are not ready for this energy it is not visible and neither transfer nor blockage may take place. It is as though the distributor were removed from a powerful engine.

    Apparently, either partner can start the process. I'm thinking that, in the past (when women were thought of as property and men dominated them), the spiritual component was usually initiated by the woman, but as men have gotten in touch with their emotions in recent times, now either partner can initiate it.

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    03-24-2011, 11:52 AM
    As I am thinking right now, besides that sexual energy transfer is emotional and physical act, its third aspect is spiritual. I am not sure if both partners need to be aware of the spiritual aspect of it though. In the spiritual act the curcuit closes if one will both receive and give simultaneously, that is seeing the Creator in the partner and seeing its self as the Creator. In that view one is completely open to energies and that exchange brings the change in the self, not fearing anything, but only perceiving the Creator in all=curcuit closes and one is connected with the One. If I speak of myself the key to the unlocking the full realisation of the self as the Creator lies in the orange level. I have no problems with this realisation when I am connected to my Higher Self during sexual energy transfer, but cannot do that at all being in my Lesser self, in the everyday life and having normal, human sex. lol!!! So it is the Lesser self that needs the development. It is such an easy outway to connect to Higher Self as everything becomes so different, but I wonder if it is wise since it is the Lesser Self that needs the lessons? Or is it this that people trying to achieve with spiritual sexual energy transfers - establish the connection/relationship with the Higher Self?

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    03-24-2011, 12:50 PM (This post was last modified: 03-24-2011, 12:58 PM by Monica.)
    (03-24-2011, 11:52 AM)Ankh Wrote: As I am thinking right now, besides that sexual energy transfer is emotional and physical act, its third aspect is spiritual.

    In my experience, emotions are the gateway to the spiritual connection, at least in regards to sex. The heart chakra is the foundation to opening the higher centers.

    (03-24-2011, 11:52 AM)Ankh Wrote: I am not sure if both partners need to be aware of the spiritual aspect of it though.

    No, I don't think so. They just need to have their hearts open. I don't think it matters whether they're consciously aware of it or not.

    (03-24-2011, 11:52 AM)Ankh Wrote: In the spiritual act the curcuit closes if one will both receive and give simultaneously, that is seeing the Creator in the partner and seeing its self as the Creator.

    Ah, I misunderstood your statement, but now I re-read it and see what you are saying. But, I don't think that is what Ra meant here:

    Quote:31.2 Questioner: Could you define sexual energy transfer and expand upon its meaning, please?
    Ra: I am Ra. Energy transfer implies the release of potential energies across, shall we say, a potentiated space. The sexual energy transfers occur due to the polarizations of two mind/body/spirit complexes, each of which have some potential difference one to the other. The nature of the transfer of energy or of the blockage of this energy is then a function of the interaction of these two potentials. In the cases where transfer takes place, you may liken this to a circuit being closed. You may also see this activity, as all experiential activities, as the Creator experiencing Itself

    The closed circuit is based on the interaction of these two potentials, not whether one or both partner both gives and receives simultaneously and sees the other as Creator.

    (03-24-2011, 11:52 AM)Ankh Wrote: In that view one is completely open to energies and that exchange brings the change in the self, not fearing anything, but only perceiving the Creator in all=curcuit closes and one is connected with the One. If I speak of myself the key to the unlocking the full realisation of the self as the Creator lies in the orange level. I have no problems with this realisation when I am connected to my Higher Self during sexual energy transfer, but cannot do that at all being in my Lesser self, in the everyday life and having normal, human sex. lol!!! So it is the Lesser self that needs the development. It is such an easy outway to connect to Higher Self as everything becomes so different, but I wonder if it is wise since it is the Lesser Self that needs the lessons? Or is it this that people trying to achieve with spiritual sexual energy transfers - establish the connection/relationship with the Higher Self?

    I don't understand any of what you're saying here. You seem to be separating 'lesser' and 'higher' self. What is 'normal, human sex'? Do you mean sex that is devoid of love, and based on lust only? How is that 'normal'? Or am I misunderstanding you?

    Honestly, and this is just my opinion of course, but I really think total opening of oneself to one's partner is the key. It doesn't have to be complicated.

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    03-24-2011, 12:51 PM (This post was last modified: 03-24-2011, 02:27 PM by native.)
    (03-24-2011, 08:54 AM)Ankh Wrote: Is that because you didn't open up completely and made yourselves vulnerable? You didn't see yourselves as the Creator? You only gave without opening up to the receiving part? RA explains that balance from the bisexual activity of sexual energy transfer is both giving and receiving of female/male energy. So was the problem for you not to feel anything perticular is that because you didn't allow yourselves to also receive, you only gave? Could you please think about it and write down your thoughts? These questions are important, I think, if one wants to follow this sexual energy transfer path to unite with The One.

    You are right. I never was able to be fully open because I had formed a barrier between us. I had love for her and saw her as the Creator, but I did not feel emotionally connected to her as she did towards me. Ironically though, she was very self-centered. To me, I just felt that we were very different people and the connection that I was looking for was not there. But I had always offered myself to her however I could in hopes that she would grow, even though it was taking a toll on me emotionally.

    So in that respect I was not fully open to receiving, which I knew to be the issue of why I wasn't having the same experience. Then there's the self-centered aspects of her personality. It seems with green ray, partial transfers can occur without feeling a mutual effect because the green ray is giving without the need of receiving. The more I think about it, there was probably very little if any green ray transfer. Her effects were only physical really..many orgasms and tingling all over the body.

    It's depressing honestly, because I have been wanting to connect with someone on the highest of levels all my life. Even as a child I knew that's what I wanted. What I used to think was just unfortunate luck, I have come to realize that it has been my higher self steering me clear of relationships that will not achieve what I'm looking for. Because of my desire for harmony, in the past I have neglected to care for myself in certain instances. Though I am happy to say that this has changed.

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    03-24-2011, 02:47 PM
    (03-24-2011, 12:51 PM)Derek ~ Wrote: It's depressing honestly, because I have been wanting to connect with someone on the highest of levels all my life. Even as a child I knew that's what I wanted. What I used to think was just unfortunate luck, I have come to realize that it has been my higher self steering me clear of relationships that will not achieve what I'm looking for. Because of my desire for harmony, in the past I have neglected to care for myself in certain instances. Though I am happy to say that this has changed.

    Oh brother, I got tears in my eyes... That's the reason for this whole thread. I am seeking this and seem not to find it. Are we ever going to find it in this life, in these bodies, in the relationships? ...

    @Monica, good points. I'll answer a bit later when I am recovered from Dereks post.

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    03-24-2011, 07:59 PM
    Hey there,
    I think that I confused some concepts here, so I'll start over.
    First of all "giving and receiving" - I might be wrong here but I thought as the sexual energy transfer occurs in bisexual act, it is about energy exchange, thus both giving female/male energy and simultaniously receiving the opposite energy?

    (03-24-2011, 12:50 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:
    (03-24-2011, 11:52 AM)Ankh Wrote: In the spiritual act the curcuit closes if one will both receive and give simultaneously, that is seeing the Creator in the partner and seeing its self as the Creator.

    Ah, I misunderstood your statement, but now I re-read it and see what you are saying. But, I don't think that is what Ra meant here:

    Quote:31.2 Questioner: Could you define sexual energy transfer and expand upon its meaning, please?
    Ra: I am Ra. Energy transfer implies the release of potential energies across, shall we say, a potentiated space. The sexual energy transfers occur due to the polarizations of two mind/body/spirit complexes, each of which have some potential difference one to the other. The nature of the transfer of energy or of the blockage of this energy is then a function of the interaction of these two potentials. In the cases where transfer takes place, you may liken this to a circuit being closed. You may also see this activity, as all experiential activities, as the Creator experiencing Itself

    The closed circuit is based on the interaction of these two potentials, not whether one or both partner both gives and receives simultaneously and sees the other as Creator.
    Well, the above qoute from Ra is the beginning, as I understand it. It is about the polarization, either are the couple polarizing negatively where one is master and another is slave, or the couple polarizing positively and trying to activate green ray. Beyond that basic choice there is more to it. I just re-read these sessions in Book II and that's what I thought of regarding seeing its self and another self as the Creator, session 32:6: "The indigo ray is the ray of, shall we say, awareness of the Creator as self; thus one whose indigo ray vibrations have been activated can offer the energy transfer of Creator to Creator. This is the beginning of the sacramental nature of what you call your bisexual reproductive act. It is unique in bearing the allness, the wholeness, the unity in its offering to other-self." This is what I seek.

    Quote:I don't understand any of what you're saying here. You seem to be separating 'lesser' and 'higher' self. What is 'normal, human sex'? Do you mean sex that is devoid of love, and based on lust only? How is that 'normal'? Or am I misunderstanding you?
    Now I don't understand what you are saying - do you mean that your Lesser self is always in touch with your Higher Self in this illusion? I mean normal human sex with love of course and all the emotions, but I want more, I want it to be a deep spiritual experience.

    Quote:It doesn't have to be complicated.

    It depends on what one is looking for. Session 31:3: "Firstly, in the green ray activated being there is the potential for a direct and simple analog of what you may call joy, the spiritual or metaphysical nature which exists in intelligent energy. This is a great aid to comprehension of a truer nature of being-ness. The other potential advantage of bisexual reproductive acts is the possibility of a sacramental understanding or connection, shall we say, with the gateway to intelligent infinity, for with appropriate preparation, work in what you may call magic may be done and experiences of intelligent infinity may be had." It is the later I am looking for when I have sex. It happened one time only, that second time I spoke of in my first post. And I want more! Angel

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    03-24-2011, 10:53 PM
    (03-24-2011, 02:47 PM)Ankh Wrote: Oh brother, I got tears in my eyes... That's the reason for this whole thread. I am seeking this and seem not to find it. Are we ever going to find it in this life, in these bodies, in the relationships? ...

    Oh Ankh Sad I wouldn't get too down about it. There are lots of things to be grateful for, and it sounds like you two are capable of having great sex anyway. I can't answer your question personally. For me, I just have to keep looking I guess. We came here to add our vibrations, progress ourselves in the process, and the rest is a bonus! I'm sure we have had plenty of mind-blowing love-making elsewhere Tongue

    I think the use of the word exchange is good, as the female draws the physical energy while giving the male emotional energy..both receiving/giving..this being the circuit so to speak.

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    03-25-2011, 02:56 AM
    Even though I'm starting to feel I'm a guy in the corner shouting opinions into someone elses conversation, I still speak Wink

    I don't think this spiritual connection can be "faked" or "forced". In all the quotes from Ra on the topic, is there something I missed that suggests we take the bull by the horns and "make it happen?" Seeking, of course, is a way to learn/teach. I'm started to form an opinion that viewing sex as a meditative practice can snap around and miss the point trying to be achieved in the first place, even to a point of counterproductive. Sex is part of life, but exploring the creator is possible in all parts of life.
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    (03-25-2011, 02:56 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Even though I'm starting to feel I'm a guy in the corner shouting opinions into someone elses conversation, I still speak Wink
    So sorry, brother! Blush

    Quote:I'm started to form an opinion that viewing sex as a meditative practice can snap around and miss the point trying to be achieved in the first place, even to a point of counterproductive.

    And what would that be, my brother?

    I think that I am starting to see more clear now what it is I am not satisfied with. As I said before (and to what Monica responded in the first place) after 12 years sexlife can be pretty boring. When I look back it's not like it has been boring, when it happens it's great/nice/pleasant. But otherwise it is really something that I can live without, not my partner though, so I had to come up with something to make us both satisfied. And sure, one can give without expecting in return, but if I want this experience to mean something to me too, I need to explore how to make it deeper, more something, or whatever it is I am seeking. Otherwise it would be like in yossarians and Dereks experiencies - it's nice/pleasant, but nothing special. Therefore something one can live without. Still, it feels like there need to be put loads of work to accomplish that "something". This body feels like steering a heavy jumbojet instead of the easy flight of the bird.

    Quote:I'm sure we have had plenty of mind-blowing love-making elsewhere
    BigSmile Can't wait til that happens again. That's the first thing I think I am going to do when I come home, just merging with my family for the whole year or something.
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    03-25-2011, 04:04 AM
    I don't think I'm closed to reception. I do have transcendent experiences now and then, they just aren't usually sexual.

    Is sex really supposed to be the most amazing thing in life?

    For women it seems like it often is, but for guys it seems like more of a burden. I have a strong need for sex but it's more like a biological function than for the pleasure of it.

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    (03-25-2011, 03:18 AM)Ankh Wrote:
    (03-25-2011, 02:56 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Even though I'm starting to feel I'm a guy in the corner shouting opinions into someone elses conversation, I still speak Wink
    So sorry, brother! Blush

    Quote:I'm started to form an opinion that viewing sex as a meditative practice can snap around and miss the point trying to be achieved in the first place, even to a point of counterproductive.

    And what would that be, my brother?

    I'm trying to say that maybe focusing on sex as being a great energy transfer super chakra opening experience might contribute to being bored by it and thus counter to the goal.

    I can relate to a loss in desire to have sex as other things fulfill our attention. I can not relate to losing it all together. Age plays factor, as well as hormone levels. Also, opportunities decrease when careers or children, or even health issues come in-between us. Surly, it is a multi-faceted aspect of life that can't be fully explored in a thread.

    Why are we not satisfied with giving an other a wonderful experience? Is it a bit selfish to say 'meh, it was alright, but I would really prefer to soar into transcendence, and dogoneit, it ain't happening ?' There are people with conditions that don't allow them to have anything close to what has been described in this thread who would very much appreciate them if given the opportunity.
    I mean, it is one thing to desire to see visions and angels during meditation or whatnot, but the energy transfer involves another person. The one-sided desires to achieve a "grand awakening" is almost to the point of being at the expense of an other.
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    03-25-2011, 10:39 AM (This post was last modified: 03-25-2011, 11:06 AM by native.)
    Mhm. What people are really looking for is a deep emotional connection. Maybe your task, Ankh, is to serve your husband by opening him up on a deeper level..or opening yourself up more to him.
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    03-25-2011, 12:05 PM (This post was last modified: 03-25-2011, 12:20 PM by Monica.)
    (03-24-2011, 07:59 PM)Ankh Wrote: I think that I confused some concepts here, so I'll start over.
    First of all "giving and receiving" - I might be wrong here but I thought as the sexual energy transfer occurs in bisexual act, it is about energy exchange, thus both giving female/male energy and simultaniously receiving the opposite energy?

    What I meant was that we don't have to be consciously aware that we're doing that, for transfer to take place. We don't have to mentally think of both giving and receiving; it's an energetic thing.

    Even if we're consciously trying to give/receive, it might be selfishly motivated (ie., trying to have an experience for our own enjoyment) so what we consciously think is happening, might not be what is actually taking place.

    Also, I don't think the ratio is always exactly even. One partner might be more in need of giving, while the other might be more in need of receiving. Some people who give, give, give might actually need to learn to receive, while others need to learn to give unselfishly. So one person might be giving more than the other, but for them, at that particular time, it is balance, for them.

    (03-24-2011, 07:59 PM)Ankh Wrote: Well, the above qoute from Ra is the beginning, as I understand it. It is about the polarization, either are the couple polarizing negatively where one is master and another is slave, or the couple polarizing positively and trying to activate green ray. Beyond that basic choice there is more to it. I just re-read these sessions in Book II and that's what I thought of regarding seeing its self and another self as the Creator, session 32:6: "The indigo ray is the ray of, shall we say, awareness of the Creator as self; thus one whose indigo ray vibrations have been activated can offer the energy transfer of Creator to Creator. This is the beginning of the sacramental nature of what you call your bisexual reproductive act. It is unique in bearing the allness, the wholeness, the unity in its offering to other-self." This is what I seek.

    Absolutely! That is what many of us seek. But we can't go from orange ray to indigo. We must first open our hearts and give ourselves to our partner unselfishly...our partner's joy/pleasure/wellbeing must be as important as our own...then there is blue ray...we must be able to communicate openly and honestly with our mate, and allow ourselves to be vulnerable as our deepest, darkest fears are exposed and healed. THAT can be quite a task!

    My understanding is that working thru the chakras with our partner is an ongoing process, and the sexual experience will naturally and organically reflect it.

    Earlier, I was asked what I meant when I said to use caution when attempting to open the higher centers without opening the heart. That is the hallmark of STS - bypassing the heart. That's why I suggested caution. I'm not saying that anyone is doing that here. What I'm saying is that, trying to open up the higher centers without having a strong foundation with all the chakras, might inadvertently do that very thing. If we're trying to 'have an experience' then that is focusing on self, on our own enjoyment, and that is missing the point, in my opinion.

    (03-24-2011, 07:59 PM)Ankh Wrote: Now I don't understand what you are saying - do you mean that your Lesser self is always in touch with your Higher Self in this illusion?

    No. It just seems to me that thinking in terms of 'lesser' and 'higher' blocks that 'getting in touch' process, because the whole objective is to merge, not stay separate. It's probably just a semantics thing. Tongue

    (03-24-2011, 07:59 PM)Ankh Wrote: It depends on what one is looking for.

    I understand, and I still say it doesn't have to be complicated. Wink

    In my experience, that 'deep spiritual experience' didn't happen when I tried to make it happen. It happened when my husband and I connected very deeply, and there was nothing we did to 'make it happen.' It happened naturally and organically, as a result of our deep connection. By 'deep connection' I mean working thru our issues in everyday life, and becoming ever closer in our commitment to each other.

    That's just my experience, for what it's worth! Tongue

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not sure there is any other way to 'make it happen.' I know there are many techniques for sex magick, but I suspect many of them are STS oriented, because they bypass the heart. The reason I think they bypass the heart, is because participants engage in rituals with partners with whom they have no relationship. (I'm speaking of sex magick rituals here.)

    Surely, sex magick rituals can be utilized by those in a committed relationship, so that's something you might wish to explore. In my own experience, those 'ritual' experiences paled in comparison to the times we connected naturally, after an intense bonding. (Same partner, in case you're wondering.)

    We know that Carla was able to give of herself completely in her sexual encounters, her heart wide open, but I suspect she is rather exceptional in that regard. But even she speaks of deep, committed, ongoing relationship as the key to opening the higher centers, in her own marriage.
    (03-25-2011, 02:56 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Even though I'm starting to feel I'm a guy in the corner shouting opinions into someone elses conversation, I still speak Wink

    Your opinions are just as valid as anyone else's, 3D!

    (03-25-2011, 02:56 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I don't think this spiritual connection can be "faked" or "forced". In all the quotes from Ra on the topic, is there something I missed that suggests we take the bull by the horns and "make it happen?" Seeking, of course, is a way to learn/teach. I'm started to form an opinion that viewing sex as a meditative practice can snap around and miss the point trying to be achieved in the first place, even to a point of counterproductive. Sex is part of life, but exploring the creator is possible in all parts of life.

    That's pretty much what I was trying to convey too!
    (03-25-2011, 03:18 AM)Ankh Wrote: it is really something that I can live without, not my partner though

    You just said something very key. My suggestion is to focus on deepening your relationship with your partner, instead of deepening the sex.

    Then, you just might be pleasantly surprised! Wink
    (03-25-2011, 10:39 AM)Derek ~ Wrote: Mhm. What people are really looking for is a deep emotional connection. Maybe your task, Ankh, is to serve your husband by opening him up on a deeper level..or opening yourself up more to him.

    Exactly what I was thinking!
    (03-25-2011, 08:30 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Why are we not satisfied with giving an other a wonderful experience? Is it a bit selfish to say 'meh, it was alright, but I would really prefer to soar into transcendence, and dogoneit, it ain't happening ?' There are people with conditions that don't allow them to have anything close to what has been described in this thread who would very much appreciate them if given the opportunity.
    I mean, it is one thing to desire to see visions and angels during meditation or whatnot, but the energy transfer involves another person. The one-sided desires to achieve a "grand awakening" is almost to the point of being at the expense of an other.

    Well said!

    (I'm so glad you decided to join this conversation, 3D!)
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    03-26-2011, 06:03 AM (This post was last modified: 03-26-2011, 01:04 PM by Monica.)
    (03-25-2011, 12:05 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Even if we're consciously trying to give/receive, it might be selfishly motivated (ie., trying to have an experience for our own enjoyment) so what we consciously think is happening, might not be what is actually taking place.

    I just realized that this might come across as judgmental. I apologize - that wasn't my intention! I wasn't referring to anyone in particular but was generalizing. I didn't mean to imply that anyone seeking a spiritual experience is selfish! (But I see how it might have sounded that way.) I was trying to make the point that what we consciously think is happening, might not be what is actually happening energetically. Also, if we focus on loving our mate, we will naturally open the higher centers in due time. 'Trying' to have an experience might actually block the experience! Whereas, not trying, but just giving of ourselves and communicating openly, might actually be what triggers the very experience we are seeking.

    Once again I'm sorry if I inadvertently offended anyone! Sad

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    06-26-2011, 02:46 AM
    Hi,

    I'm new to this site and would like to learn/understand more about sexual energy transfer and how it works, what I need to do for this to happen etc. Can you guys please recommend me some books that could help me? Any info and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    TIA

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    (06-26-2011, 02:46 AM)socaldodger Wrote: Hi,

    I'm new to this site and would like to learn/understand more about sexual energy transfer and how it works, what I need to do for this to happen etc. Can you guys please recommend me some books that could help me? Any info and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    TIA

    Welcome to the forum, brother.

    This forum is mainly for the study of the Ra material. Ra talks very much about the sexual energy transfer. If you search "sexual"/"sexual energy transfer""" at this site:

    http://www.lawofone.info/

    You will find some useful (or not) information.

    The Ra material along with other information can be found at this website:

    http://www.llresearch.org/

    Good luck!



    It's funny how things show up just when you pondering them. Synchronity. Discernment... And this thread shows up... I just want to burst into the laugh thinking that indeed: "We are all bozos on this bus" BigSmile (Aaah now I am thinking about poor vbaba!)

    (03-26-2011, 06:03 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Once again I'm sorry if I inadvertently offended anyone! Sad

    If you meant me, Monica, then I was not offended, but I felt frustrated at that time, because I didn't feel that I was being understood. And it's good that this thread "died". There are some things that one should not share on the public internet forum. Angel

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    06-26-2011, 11:17 AM
    (06-26-2011, 02:46 AM)socaldodger Wrote: I'm new to this site and would like to learn/understand more about sexual energy transfer and how it works, what I need to do for this to happen etc. Can you guys please recommend me some books that could help me? Any info and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Welcome dodger! I would always start with a well-worded Internet search, along with picking up the Lawo Fone Tongue. The term Tantric Yoga comes to mind. Your query is a good and important one.

    If I had something useful to share regarding the topic, I would Sad.

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    (06-26-2011, 04:27 AM)Ankh Wrote: If you meant me, Monica, then I was not offended, but I felt frustrated at that time, because I didn't feel that I was being understood.

    That was a few months ago, so I really don't remember, but my post says that I wasn't addressing anyone in particular.

    (06-26-2011, 04:27 AM)Ankh Wrote: And it's good that this thread "died". There are some things that one should not share on the public internet forum. Angel

    Being that sexual energy transfer is such an important part of our spiritual evolution, I think it's a worthy topic for a Law of One forum. Some people are much more open about sharing intimate details of their lives than others. I personally would not share anything intimate on a public forum. But those who wish to, are certainly free to. There are ways to discuss the topic in general terms, without disclosing our own personal experiences, if we're not comfortable doing that. In fact, we have a specific guideline (#7) for discussing this topic in a sensitive and respectful way.

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    The path seems quite clear, as with all STO openings there is a necessity for acceptance. If you desire "more", this is a form of inacceptance. If you have sex and you are thinking "Oh I hope I'll reach intelligent infinity this time!" you most likely won't, because you'll be too busy thinking about it instead of just DOING it. There is one thing you need to do, feel. Feel everything, engage yourself in the full sensation, let your mind empty of everything but pleasure. And I don't mean self-pleasure, simply pleasure, enjoyment of every moment, every move, every sensation for both. Becoming One with another is a matter of being, not thinking.
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    (06-27-2011, 11:40 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Being that sexual energy transfer is such an important part of our spiritual evolution, I think it's a worthy topic for a Law of One forum. Some people are much more open about sharing intimate details of their lives than others. I personally would not share anything intimate on a public forum. But those who wish to, are certainly free to. There are ways to discuss the topic in general terms, without disclosing our own personal experiences, if we're not comfortable doing that. In fact, we have a specific guideline (#7) for discussing this topic in a sensitive and respectful way.

    Wondering: would making that forum a subset of b4th and also giving users separate IDs just for that be easy? Sort of a "double blind." This purpose would be to free up discussion but should not, of course, give freedom to post provocative, trollish things. The moderator(s) would know who everybody really is.
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    (06-27-2011, 11:40 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I personally would not share anything intimate on a public forum.

    Good thing that we learn. I wouldn't either - today. BigSmile

    (06-27-2011, 12:36 PM)Azrael Wrote: ....

    You are absolutely right! "Think less, feel more" - great advice! Heart

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    06-27-2011, 02:33 PM
    (06-27-2011, 02:15 PM)kycahi Wrote: Wondering: would making that forum a subset of b4th and also giving users separate IDs just for that be easy? Sort of a "double blind." This purpose would be to free up discussion but should not, of course, give freedom to post provocative, trollish things. The moderator(s) would know who everybody really is.

    That's an interesting suggestion, kycahi! I have no idea if that's technically feasible or not, so I will pass on the suggestion to the other mods.

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    Haha. An x rated forum or what?

    I'd spend my time trying to piece together clues to figure out who's who.
    I recently had energy transfer. We have no idea what colors.

    I'm still totally clueless about chakras. Conscious recognition, that is.

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    (06-27-2011, 03:05 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I'd spend my time trying to piece together clues to figure out who's who.

    I was thinking the same thing Angel
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    (06-27-2011, 03:05 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Haha. An x rated forum or what?

    No. It would have to still be based on the Law of One and spiritual considerations of sex.

    (06-27-2011, 03:05 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I'd spend my time trying to piece together clues to figure out who's who.

    OK scrap that idea!

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    (06-27-2011, 03:05 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I'd spend my time trying to piece together clues to figure out who's who

    Well, if you see someone discussing sexual energy transfers with lots of intimate details, you'll know who suspect in the first place. How will I recognize you? BigSmile

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