3D to 4D: Sudden or Gradual? A great read...(David Wilcock interview)

[Bring4th_Austin]

I thought I was the receptor, the antenna, receiving the broadcast. My perspective is that we all turn our tv to the same channel to receive and vibrate to the same tune.

You are, energy is inpouring to the energy centers. But we can also serve as broadcasters/radiators of love/light.

65.12 Questioner: Then each of the Wanderers here acts as a function of the biases he has developed in any way he sees fit to communicate or simply be in his polarity to aid the total consciousness of the planet. Is there any physical way in which he aids, perhaps by his vibrations somehow just adding to the planet just as electrical polarity or charging a battery? Does that also aid the planet, just the physical presence of the Wanderers?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and the mechanism is precisely as you state. We intended this meaning in the second portion of our previous answer.

You may, at this time, note that as with any entities, each Wanderer has its unique abilities, biases, and specialities so that from each portion of each density represented among the Wanderers come an array of pre-incarnative talents which then may be expressed upon this plane which you now experience so that each Wanderer, in offering itself before incarnation, has some special service to offer in addition to the doubling effect of planetary love and light and the basic function of serving as beacon or shepherd.

Thus there are those of fifth-density whose abilities to express wisdom are great. There are fourth and sixth-density Wanderers whose ability to serve as, shall we say, passive radiators or broadcasters of love and love/light are immense. There are many others whose talents brought into this density are quite varied.

Thus Wanderers have three basic functions once the forgetting is penetrated, the first two being basic, the tertiary one being unique to that particular mind/body/spirit complex.

We may note at this point while you ponder the possibility/probability vortices that although you have many, many items which cause distress and thus offer seeking and service opportunities, there is always one container in that store of peace, love, light, and joy. This vortex may be very small, but to turn one’s back upon it is to forget the infinite possibilities of the present moment. Could your planet polarize towards harmony in one fine, strong, moment of inspiration? Yes, my friends. It is not probable; but it is ever possible.

I'd imagine that if this can be done passively it can also be done consciously.

[βαθμιαίος]

What could that mean? That UFO creation is some kind of spiritual-development gauge for society? That would mean that the scientists and engineers are somehow society's representatives? Sort of like, this is how you chose to manifest your (metaphorical) vehicles of transcendence.

Maybe this (about Tesla's desire "to give to the planet the infinite energy of the planetary sphere for use in lighting and power")?

11.28 Questioner: Would this freeing from darkness be commensurate with the Law of One or does this have any real product?

Ra: I am Ra. The product of such a freeing would create two experiences.

Firstly, the experience of no need to find the necessary emolument for payment, in your money, for energy.

Secondly, the leisure afforded, thereby exemplifying the possibility and enhancing the probability of the freedom to then search the self, the beginning of seeking the Law of One.

Few there are working physically from daybreak to darkness, as you name them, upon your plane who can contemplate the Law of One in a conscious fashion.

[zenmaster]

Right, the free-energy suppression. Presumably the technology required for the craft is capable of providing for the free energy as well. But it's odd how, historically, only one wanderer, Telsa (and maybe a few others. Certainly plenty of BS artists.) have come to present such promising technology, considering the opportunities for survival-concern alleviation it promises. Did we collectively not 'want it' to manifest in that manner? Perhaps it was our capitalist mind set that does not see the virtue of providing something like this for free. Of course, when you have free energy, you have plenty of opportunity for crime and destruction as well as that free time.

[βαθμιαίος]

I guess it gets into the conspiracy question currently being discussed in the Fukushima thread, but I'm guessing that many more than Tesla have come up with innovations that would have led us towards free energy. I'm pretty sure that since World War II (at least) all such breakthroughs have been carefully vetted and restricted for use by the national security apparatuses of our country and others. And not necessarily only for negative reasons -- as you point out, the destructive potentials of free energy are enormous, not only in criminal but also in military applications. As Ra said, the energy is not truly available for either the positive or the negative.

[Gribbons]

What would the military have to fight for if energy were free? People would be content with sustenance, we wouldn't need to fight for oil anymore, and the people would have the ability/time to soul search, contemplate and create. Need we not forget the renaissance essentially started when merchants in Italy made enough money so that they and their children could spend their time asking questions about life and society and using their imagination. When basic needs are met with spare time, why would people even support a patriarchal enslavement society? Why would we need hierarchy then?

Tesla wanted everyone to have free energy, but probably in a form where everyone knew how it was done. Anyone seen Watchmen? TPTB do have this technology, but are waiting to capitalize on it. Free energy sounds great, but when its only being generated in the nexus of a city, it only further concentrates public dependency on them (corporate/govt power)

Also remember Hitler, before he went mad, wanted to be a painter. If he had that creative outlet in society, WWII probably wouldn't have happened. Well, at least not with him as a leader. Maybe the Pope needs to pick up the saxophone or something.

"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain." - John Adams

[zenmaster]

People would be content with sustenance

Huh?

[unity100]

Did we collectively not 'want it' to manifest in that manner? Perhaps it was our capitalist mind set that does not see the virtue of providing something like this for free.

bingo. thats probably one of the major reasons. in a society in which nothing is free, and everything is arranged accordingly to things having a price, something being given free rocks the entire foundation of society and causes great change.

Of course, when you have free energy, you have plenty of opportunity for crime and destruction as well as that free time.

that too.

[native]

Perhaps the collective gets exactly what it wants, and the collective on a more subconscious level has decided that coming together and really working towards change is not something they're motivated about right now. That's evident..they're distracted, and they feel powerless. It is laziness really, the programming is a heavy influence..but nothing will be handed to them.

[Bring4th_Austin]

I guess it gets into the conspiracy question currently being discussed in the Fukushima thread, but I'm guessing that many more than Tesla have come up with innovations that would have led us towards free energy. I'm pretty sure that since World War II (at least) all such breakthroughs have been carefully vetted and restricted for use by the national security apparatuses of our country and others. And not necessarily only for negative reasons -- as you point out, the destructive potentials of free energy are enormous, not only in criminal but also in military applications. As Ra said, the energy is not truly available for either the positive or the negative.

No doubt that even if someone did come up with a way to take advantage of the Earth's electromagnetic energy potentials, it would be suppressed by the same people who keep these weapons a secret.

I feel like, if this information were free to the public, it would open up a dialogue which would bring New Age, metaphysics, things like the Ra material in from the fringes. After all, if you bring up the idea of "subtle energy" to an established scientist, they would probably laugh in your face and you'd be cast out from any sort of legitimate academia.


I think Zen nailed it saying that our capitalist mindset wouldn't really allow free energy to manifest in our reality. We're born into this system and it is ingrained in our psyche from day one. No doubt many, many people hold some sort of "capitalist bias" that would prevent free energy from being a reality.

You guys every read/watch The Watchmen? This idea is uncannily similar to the scene where the corporate bigheads are accusing Ozymandias of being a communist for wanting to provide free energy. I feel like a lot of that book was intuited from a grander source than just vivid imagination.

[3DMonkey]

This is one of those topics that we just can't imagine what would happen "if." the funny thing is, I think it is the inability to see what would happen that fuels the suppressions or what not.

In regards to this, there is something so scary about the unknown that we just won't walk faithfully/foolishly into it. And I'm speaking of our entire collective. We want it, but, collectively, there is something unsettling about the prospect.

[Bring4th_Austin]

This is one of those topics that we just can't imagine what would happen "if." the funny thing is, I think it is the inability to see what would happen that fuels the suppressions or what not.

In regards to this, there is something so scary about the unknown that we just won't walk faithfully/foolishly into it. And I'm speaking of our entire collective. We want it, but, collectively, there is something unsettling about the prospect.

The collective needs to catch up


Indeed, I think it is the very concept you're talking about which makes this such a small harvest. The collective will not play the part of the Fool, embodying the archetypal concept of the Choice

[native]

Yes, the unsettling nature of the choice holds us back. There is an ideal that we want equality, but truthfully there is still separation. If the collective truly wanted equality, it would have happened by now. At this moment, it is just a warm fuzzy feeling that brings self-comfort in believing that they embody a certain amount of good within them. Truthfully however, they are caught up in making the sacrifice of putting others ahead of themselves, so they continue to indulge in the self and sit on the fence of inaction.

You can take a kind-hearted person that values their moral authenticity, but as soon as you mention self-sacrifice or the necessity of cutting into their level of comfort for the collective they immediately become defensive.

[Bring4th_Austin]

To rewind topics a little bit, I was going through Book 1 last night and found some information I find very relevant to our discussion on what harvest is, what the opening of the gateway to intelligent infinity is, who can harvest themselves, etc.

First off, I found this incredibly interesting (regarding the 150 harvestable entities from the previous cycle):

22.11 Questioner: Then as the next cycle started were these the entities who stayed to work on the planet?
Ra: I am Ra. These entities were visited by the Confederation and became desirous of remaining in order to aid the planetary consciousness. This is correct.

22.12 Questioner: What type of visit did the Confederation make to this group of 150 entities?
Ra: I am Ra. A light being appeared bearing that which may be called a shield of light. It spoke of the oneness and infinity of all creation and of those things which await those ready for harvest. It described in golden words the beauties of love as lived. It then allowed a telepathic linkage to progressively show those who were interested the plight of third density when seen as a planetary complex. It then left.

This seems to me to signify that at least for the first two cycles, Harvest included a visit from the Confederation. I wonder if something like this will happen during our harvest?

Also this is curious...

22.13 Questioner: Did all of these entities then decide to stay and help during the next 25,000 year cycle?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. As a group they stayed. There were those peripherally associated with this culture which did not stay. However, they were not able to be harvested either and so, beginning at the very highest, shall we say, of the sub-octaves of third density, repeated this density. Many of those who have been of the loving nature are not Wanderers but those of this particular origin of second cycle.


22.14 Questioner: Are all of these entities still with us in this cycle?
Ra: I am Ra. The entities repeating the third-density major cycle have, in some few cases, been able to leave. These entities have chosen to join their brothers and sisters, as you would call these entities.

There's also hints in some other sessions about STO individuals opening the gateway to intelligent infinity and being able to harvest themselves.

I've gotta think about these for a bit...

[unity100]

Yes, the unsettling nature of the choice holds us back. There is an ideal that we want equality, but truthfully there is still separation.

most unfortunately, many dont want equality.

there are all kinds of justifications ranging from 'i work harder' to 'i am more gifted' for not wanting equality.

[3DMonkey]

I can't help myself......

MIRROR

[native]

This seems to me to signify that at least for the first two cycles, Harvest included a visit from the Confederation. I wonder if something like this will happen during our harvest?

17.22 ...The particular mind/body/spirit complex you call Jesus is, as what you would call an entity, not to return except as a member of the Confederation speaking through a channel. However, there are others of the identical congruency of consciousness that will welcome those to the fourth-density. This is the meaning of the returning.

It seems that teachers will appear. It's also interesting to note that someone may channel Jesus in the future?

[Oceania]

they already do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C4kH0uK9Ek

[zenmaster]

they already do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C4kH0uK9Ek

Amazingly awkward video.

[Oceania]

how so? you get over the stephen hawking. are you dissing Jesus?

[zenmaster]

The speech synthesis repeating over and over how to take care of dietary matters for the purpose of ascension. Odd.

[Oceania]

hey, i only provided the Jesus.

[native]

most unfortunately, many dont want equality.

There are few who believe communal efforts are fair. In a place like America, to suggest a communal approach on a large scale is blasphemous. It will never happen unless the upcoming generations support it.

[Monica]

It seems that teachers will appear. It's also interesting to note that someone may channel Jesus in the future?

Lots of people already claim to channel Jesus.

Will the real Jesus please stand up?

[Oceania]

that's why he's not coming back.

[native]

Or as Bill Hicks used to say..maybe it's because we still wear crosses!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXes84ESQ5U

[particlepopup]

It seems that teachers will appear. It's also interesting to note that someone may channel Jesus in the future?

Lots of people already claim to channel Jesus.

Will the real Jesus please stand up?

I'm Brian!!!

[Bring4th_Austin]

This seems to me to signify that at least for the first two cycles, Harvest included a visit from the Confederation. I wonder if something like this will happen during our harvest?

17.22 ...The particular mind/body/spirit complex you call Jesus is, as what you would call an entity, not to return except as a member of the Confederation speaking through a channel. However, there are others of the identical congruency of consciousness that will welcome those to the fourth-density. This is the meaning of the returning.

It seems that teachers will appear. It's also interesting to note that someone may channel Jesus in the future?

I wish Don could have asked Ra to specify about statements like this.

"How exactly will they welcome us? Will they appear to us in the physical on the day of harvest? Or will they welcome us to 4th density after the transition is complete?"


I'm excited at the prospect of 4D beings appearing to us in the physical in the near future. For some reason I feel like that's not exactly how it will work.

[3DMonkey]

I wish Don could have asked Ra to specify about statements like this.

No kidding! Hindsight is 20/20.

[Bring4th_Austin]

I must admit I couldn't imagine being in Don's seat though. Think of how many times we have to read this stuff to really grasp it...he probably didn't really process in the moment every little thing Ra said.

[βαθμιαίος]

That's the great thing about listening to the audio. You can hear his mind working.

I think a lot of times he had a list of questions to ask for that session. If he got an answer that he didn't know what to do with he just moved on to the next question. But a lot of his follow-ups are amazing, especially given how s l o w l y Ra spoke and how easy it must have been to zone out.