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    3DMonkey

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    10-05-2011, 09:45 PM
    (10-05-2011, 04:31 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Thanks for the vids Confused, I will check them out later.

    I wonder if I can directly produce a specific emotion in someone else?

    I'm really successful at directly producing frustration in someone else. It is kinda my speciality.
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    10-06-2011, 03:44 AM
    Carl Jung - Approaching the Unconscious Part 2 of 15

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    10-06-2011, 06:14 AM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 07:00 AM by Confused.)


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    10-06-2011, 07:33 AM
    "The game was to find out what I already was!"
    A good find, C.
    Who is that longhaired younger guy? and the white-haired guy at the end is David Icke?
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    10-06-2011, 07:35 AM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 07:45 AM by Confused.)
    Interesting
    No idea who the younger individual is, Meerie. I do not know Sad


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    10-06-2011, 09:27 AM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 09:39 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    In my current density (in allowing, density is always increasing), as I continue to look at and understand this character (the lion cartoon I posted before), I realize it is metaphor for what is in the subconscious. Thanks in part to Zen's teachings. Metaphor is like symbol, but to me metaphor has a much more beautiful sound. It's more expansive than the clanging feel of "symbol". Metaphor produces emotional response of wonder in me.

    Maybe Zen could enlighten us with the difference between projection and metaphor?

    I can push an emotion with feather soft thought intent, but the slightest sensation of emotion can be intense because of emotional density. Spent about 5 hours last night surrendering as much as I could to Creator. This increases flow of Light, increases density and transformational power of it. Legs got really tight from the Light pressure in me, and they floated upward as I sat in my recliner.

    How expansively can I experience THIS metaphor (the one that currently produces greatest dynamic)?
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    10-06-2011, 09:59 AM
    (10-06-2011, 09:27 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Maybe Zen could enlighten us with the difference between projection and metaphor?

    I think projection is only projection when two parties perceive projection opposing. Metaphor is when two parties are joined and projecting in the same 'direction' (like in the movies when two people are outnumbered and they press their backs together to defend their 'projections').
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    10-06-2011, 10:02 AM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 10:20 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    Even back in 2004, when I published my novel The Warlock Name, there was some familiarity with the nature of emotions, though it never really "clicked". This was before I found the Ra Material. Here's a quote from the book:

    "Color is voice and tone; vibrancy expressed when
    the sound comes forth. Feelings are shown through that
    which comes in power. The energy of the light, in each
    hue, surrounds each emotion. Speak with your chosen
    color; a word that is unique, and that color will be your
    own. What you see is what you hear. The colors of the
    world define their existence. Learn them well, for you will
    use them indefinitely to define a new hue of your own."


    Or I'll bring it to something that's more down to Earth:

    My life is filled with contrast.




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    10-06-2011, 10:43 AM
    Wow, Gemini, so you have a book published as well!! That is great! I just saw that it is 287 pages. Can you briefly spell out the theme of the book, please? I am so excited that you have a book published! One of these days I will have to get digging into your book.
    (10-06-2011, 10:02 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Even back in 2004, when I published my novel The Warlock Name, there was some familiarity with the nature of emotions, though it never really "clicked". This was before I found the Ra Material. Here's a quote from the book:

    "Color is voice and tone; vibrancy expressed when
    the sound comes forth. Feelings are shown through that
    which comes in power. The energy of the light, in each
    hue, surrounds each emotion. Speak with your chosen
    color; a word that is unique, and that color will be your
    own. What you see is what you hear. The colors of the
    world define their existence. Learn them well, for you will
    use them indefinitely to define a new hue of your own."


    Or I'll bring it to something that's more down to Earth:

    My life is filled with contrast.


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    10-06-2011, 10:45 AM
    The website is in the book: www.thewarlockname.com
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    10-06-2011, 10:46 AM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 10:55 AM by Confused.)
    Carl Jung - Approaching the Unconscious - Part 3 of 15

    This all sounds so very interesting and intriguing, Gemini. I read the blurb on your website. Tell me, what was the inspiration? I am so intrigued by your work now. The impression I get is that it is quite a powerful work of spiritual writing. Wow!! I still am taking in the fact that I am talking to a published writer. This is nice and a good experience. Thank you, Gemini.
    (10-06-2011, 10:45 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: The website is in the book: www.thewarlockname.com


    I read about you too there, Gemini. Great! You are quite a smart looking chap as well, aren't you? Smile Since you are a Physicist yourself, I hope this thread resonates with you Wink

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    10-06-2011, 11:04 AM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 12:43 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Let me pull back on the energy of excitement, in order to maintain balance.

    What is the source of any inspiration?

    In order to reach a level of emotional awareness that I now possess, Ra led me through a grueling initiation.

    I had to be brutally honest with myself, and face my fears with greatest intensity.

    Fears like:
    being microwaved
    being microwaved by my favorite character
    being microwaved by my favorite character who is laughing/giggling at me
    being microwaved by my favorite character who is getting off to it
    being microwaved by my favorite character who gets off rhythmically and sarcastically to it
    being microwaved by my favorite character who becomes demented and turns up the intensity

    Oh, but these are irrational fears, no big deal. Yeah right. There was at times a hairline difference between orgasm and projectile vomiting. The emotions now are dense enough that they can literally strangle me (like what Darth Vader does in Star Wars) by applying physical pressure. I have control in balance through this, and at times allow degrees of strangling and choking sensations to provide catalyst that increases sexual energies around images of bondage and control.

    What is the capacity of 3D to experience?
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    10-06-2011, 12:49 PM
    A question, Gem: don't you have "rational" 3D fears too? (yeah paradoxical, lol, since all fears are irrational in a way)
    I mean, fears like being afraid of heights, or of stepping on a plane, for example. Fears that are more tied within this 3d existence of survival and not with stories.
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    10-06-2011, 12:58 PM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 01:11 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Sure, I've had "rational" fears such as a somewhat minor fear of heights and cockroaches. I love flying.

    Mostly it was fear of losing control of the energy and it ripping my mind/body/spirit apart.

    I go through process of intensifying, then integrating, or pulling it more down into my physical reality.

    But exploring my irrational fears is a lot more fun, and provides greater dynamic of catalyst.

    Attack that which causes greatest catalyst at the time has kind of been my motto.
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    10-06-2011, 01:36 PM
    Ah thanks for clarifying! So the normal 3D existance does not provide enough stimulus anymore, therefore you resort to the world of stories and cartoon characters. (besides since this 3D is a hologram anyway, who is to say where the real world ends and where the stories begin?)
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    10-06-2011, 02:08 PM
    I love irony. Irony is like epic contrast, because it introduces confusion, and I relish confusion.


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    10-06-2011, 04:03 PM
    Confused, do you Like a post before or after you read it? Just wondering Wink
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    10-06-2011, 05:46 PM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 05:50 PM by JustLikeYou.)
    You know, either way I think it's very charming. I'm glad there is someone out there who lets everyone know (s)he is reading and is pleased to do so.
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    10-06-2011, 05:51 PM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 05:51 PM by Confused.)
    (10-06-2011, 04:03 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Confused, do you Like a post before or after you read it? Just wondering Wink
    For most posts, I press the Like button before reading it fully. Mostly, I just read the first line or so and press the Like button. It is essentially to get my personal tally of 'Likes' given up. Just to prove to myself how a very accepting, loving and completely non-judgmental person I am BigSmile Seriously, I mean it. It is an avenue of self-aggrandizement, to be honest.

    I suffer with deep issues of envy stemming from lack of self-acceptance. This is a way of dealing with it positively, in my mind. Moreover, I like the feeling of being at the top of something Wink



    (10-06-2011, 05:46 PM)JustLikeYou Wrote: I'm glad there is someone out there who lets everyone know (s)he is reading and is pleased to do so.

    That is very sweet, JLY. Thank you Heart Smile
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    10-06-2011, 06:05 PM
    I was never going to ask you that question, Confused. Now that I know, I'll tell you, I assumed you used the "like" button as if it were your personal "read that one" marker. .... Admittedly, I still appreciate it when you like my posts. Ego meet ego BigSmile Heart
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    (10-06-2011, 06:05 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Ego meet ego BigSmile Heart

    Then we have common ground to unite then, eh 3D! Blush



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    10-06-2011, 06:43 PM
    This can happen with a seriously unbalanced sexual chakra.



    And this can happen with a somewhat undeveloped sexual chakra.




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    10-06-2011, 08:20 PM
    Good find Confused. Event Horizon was the only movie that ever petrified me. Another good movie about projection is Sphere.

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    10-06-2011, 09:31 PM
    Confused, the "Perception of Time" video is so intriguing and the music so AWESOME that I almost missed your "how do you do that" question. It's very much like Gemini Wolf recommended to Meerie and described on page 34 of this thread:

    "Cool Meerie. What I would recommend, if you are willing, is to really get into that jealousy. Think about what makes you most jealous, and build the energy. Let the stories build. When it is peaked, relax, take time to reflect and allow you to integrate this. It will build your energy, your centeredness and stability. Our emotions are then held in a gyroscopic balance, around the intense gravity of our singularity (who we truly are), and are not easily swayed. It takes time. I've spent 2-3 hours at a stretch building the energy behind my sexual desire, and a whole day integrating it. And I would say don't push yourself too far. A little at a time goes a long way. It will move you more toward who you truly are, by not fighting against those impulses."


    It is the same concept, but instead of focusing on an emotion, you focus on pain. I guess, after all, that the emotions and the pain are all part of the illusion we have created for ourselves in this dimension. I just relax, do some meditative breathing, and actually try to "see" the point of pain in my mind's eye, really focus on it to the exclusion of anything else, then try to intensify it. I thank the Creator for it! I really don't understand how/why it works, but it does seem to help alleviate the pain, or at least make it bearable.

    Love & Light!
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    10-06-2011, 09:40 PM (This post was last modified: 10-06-2011, 09:54 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Meerie, this is for you, and I definitely make use of it. I ask "what is the capacity to experience infinite jealousy?", when looking at sexual artworks, and longing to be those characters. It's not so much driven by sexual desire, though that's still very much present. Though for me, jealousy is somewhat foreign, so I had to start with longing and work backwards through yearning. Longing is very natural for me.
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    10-06-2011, 10:07 PM
    (10-06-2011, 08:20 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Good find Confused. Event Horizon was the only movie that ever petrified me. Another good movie about projection is Sphere.

    (10-06-2011, 06:14 AM)Confused Wrote:

    Is that Azrael??
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    10-06-2011, 10:43 PM
    (10-06-2011, 09:27 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: In my current density (in allowing, density is always increasing), as I continue to look at and understand this character (the lion cartoon I posted before), I realize it is metaphor for what is in the subconscious. Thanks in part to Zen's teachings. Metaphor is like symbol, but to me metaphor has a much more beautiful sound. It's more expansive than the clanging feel of "symbol". Metaphor produces emotional response of wonder in me.

    Maybe Zen could enlighten us with the difference between projection and metaphor?

    I can push an emotion with feather soft thought intent, but the slightest sensation of emotion can be intense because of emotional density. Spent about 5 hours last night surrendering as much as I could to Creator. This increases flow of Light, increases density and transformational power of it. Legs got really tight from the Light pressure in me, and they floated upward as I sat in my recliner.

    How expansively can I experience THIS metaphor (the one that currently produces greatest dynamic)?
    A projection is a form of psychological identification where the disowned contents of the personal unconscious are attributed to an external source. Even though these attributions are completely unconscious, there tends to be a bias attached. Usually positive or negative. Strong positive projections are typically associated with the anima (one's feminine personal unconscious) in males and animus (one's masculine personal unconscious) in females. Complementary projections form the basis of most relationships here in 3D. Relationships are created and maintained for the satisfaction of complentary neurotic structures, when satisfaction is not forthcoming, the relationship is terminated. As one individuates, it's possible to have relationships that are not wholly based on an expectation of such lower ego-satisfying demands (the personal unconscious has been integrated sufficiently to move one into 'green').

    A metaphor is a something with symbolic content chosen to represent or embody an idea.

    Allegory is a metaphorical story, but with a meaning that is present but not so obvious at first take. So it's compelling, but you don't quite know why - like a powerful dream or a synchronistic occurrence. The more presence or consciousness available, the more these built-in guides serve to identify unaddressed aspects of self. You may examine your allegorical dramas looking for strong symbols which typically serve to constellate these aspects of self.

    The symbol is the emergent (from mind - personal, collective, etc.) representation of a currently unknowable principle. Semiotics is the study of the meaning of symbol (and metaphor).

    We (our subconscious) always identifies with symbolic and metaphorical content before the meaning it's pointing to makes its way to our awareness. The unconscious associations we hold, in symbolic and metaphorical form, with the idea of UFO's, conspiracy theories, controllers, tends to appeal to something we have yet to address. We are bound to project these metaphors onto the most convenient other self in order to first make it safe for us to digest the hidden meaning therein. This self-delusional/learning unconscious patterning is largely what is occurring on the bring4th forum.









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    10-06-2011, 11:18 PM
    (10-06-2011, 10:43 PM)zenmaster Wrote: As one individuates, it's possible to have relationships that are not wholly based on an expectation of such lower ego-satisfying demands (the personal unconscious has been integrated sufficiently to move one into 'green').

    You really think so? Sounds ego-satisfying to me. Where does the projection stop and the circle flatten out into a line?
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