Spaceship Moon

[Parsons]

HOLY CRAP I am about to eat my words about there being no LOO material about this!

8.2 Questioner: There was a portion of the material from yesterday which I will read where you say “there is a certain amount of landing taking place. Some of these landings are of your own people; some are of the group known to you as Orion.” My first question is what did you mean that some of the landings are of your peoples?
Ra: I am Ra. Your peoples have, at this time/space present, the technological achievement, if you would call it that, of being able to create and fly the shape and type of craft known to you as unidentified flying objects. Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your social memory complex, causing a situation where neither those oriented towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social memory complex. This in turn causes the harvest to be small.

8.3 Questioner: Are these craft that are from our peoples from what we call planes that are not incarnate at this time? Where are they based?
Ra: I am Ra. These of which we spoke are of third density and are part of the so-called military complex of various of your peoples’ societal divisions or structures.

The bases are varied. There are bases, as you would call them, undersea in your southern waters near the Bahamas as well as in your Pacific seas in various places close to your Chilean borders on the water. There are bases upon your moon, as you call this satellite, which are at this time being reworked. There are bases which move about your lands. There are bases, if you would call them that, in your skies. These are the bases of your peoples, very numerous and, as we have said, potentially destructive.

[Ashim]

Talk about things being hidden in plain view.

[indolering]

Good find, Duncan. I felt certain that the US secret space program had starships capable of interstellar travel, and that we had one or more bases on the moon. But I don't know what the relationship is like between the US and the aliens on the moon - it may involve some friction which would complicate matters....

I believe that, if feasible, the US has bases on Mars as well. And it seems clear that the ETs have underwater bases as there have been many sightings of craft entering into and emerging from the ocean and even deep lakes; but I didn't suspect that the elite also had this capability.

Bases in the sky?? Mini-space stations? Motherships? Wow... I knew the elite had some far out technology but still it's a little staggering to think they have all that...and more.

To be fair to Don, the idea that the moon may be an artificial construct was only first articulated in 1970 by two Russian scientists. Then in 1975, Don Wilson began researching the moon and its anomalies when he discovered the spaceship moon theory - he published two books discussing the theory, in '76 and '79. But even then, the notion seemed so outlandish that no one seemed to take it seriously. But as the consciousness of the planet continued to accelerate higher, and more channels and contactees corroborated the theory, the idea is finally entering into widespread awareness. Astronomers and scientists still dismiss the theory - they are controlled by the money power to stick to the agreed upon agenda - they are forbidden to consider the idea of ET existence. This taboo is breaking down, but disclosure will not come until it suits the agenda.

Another cool book is Alternative 3 by Leslie Watkins. It's about the secret space program and how the elite are kidnapping groups of people to be slave laborers in the colonies, primarily the moon and Mars - they call these groups, "batch consignments". It's a pretty amazing little book and reads like a spy thriller although it was originally aired on UK tv as a serious science program, not fiction - but there was so much uproar that it was labeled a hoax and everyone went back to work and their meaningless lives....

You can read this free online here:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/har..._3_pt1.htm


Thanks for all the contributions to the thread.

I first read Wilson's books circa 1990 after finding them in a used bookshop. I've been fascinated by the idea ever since. But this is the age where all secrets shall be revealed and a new world can emerge upon the shambles of the old....

[Ashim]

They made a science report show about this on uk tv.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE79kXzxNBw

[indolering]

They made a science report show about this on uk tv.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE79kXzxNBw

Thanks for the link. I didn't realize the original production was online.

edit: I just finished watching the Alternative 3 program...I actually thought it was a bit sketchy, the sound was not good, and the story was not fleshed out to include some of the most important aspects of the plot. The book is much more engaging and fulfilling, plus it reads like a good mystery, except imo, it's all pretty much accurate and true - that there is a life-sustaining atmosphere on Mars, that the US/USSR collaborated on establishing a viable colony on Mars, and that hundreds, perhaps thousands of individuals and groups have been abducted to work there against their will.

It seems the elite controllers had agreed with some leading scientists that the Earth could not sustain the intense industrial activity on its surface (primarily the greenhouse effect). So they came up with three options:

Alternative One: punch a hole in the stratosphere to allow the gases to escape
Alternative Two: establish colonies deep underground
Alternative Three: establish colonies on the moon and Mars

The first alternative has, apparently, been tried, judging by the huge hole in the ozone layer. Eventually they decided that this option was not effective and perhaps dangerous.
The second alternative was also initiated and continues unabated today. We can be quite certain that there are vast underground cities capable of harboring relatively normal existence indefinitely.
And alternative three was also seized upon - why not? they already had a viable secret space program underway and no doubt colonies were already on their minds....

It's a fascinating yet sordid tale - it's one more example of the ruthless mindset of men who believe they have the right to rule the world. But their time is almost over and they know it. They are the ones who will be banished to some god-forsaken rock in space where they'll have centuries to contemplate their miserable fate.

[Ashim]

If memory serves well ..I believe it was broadcast on April 1st.
Nice way of 'veiling' the message. Hah, hah!

[ichoria]

I don't know if you guys ever watched this video ...

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/..._complete/

[Parsons]

Thank you ichoria.... Now I FINALLY know the source of the mysterious pictures they used in the Ra Material videos on youtube...

[indolering]

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Cool video, ichoria, thanks. I think I'll watch it again before I comment on it, but several topics of interest were raised.

[Parsons]

Ugh, Im an idiot. I managed to mention the hollow moon theory to my wife who is very against believing anything not spoon fed to her by the media or an institution. =OX

[Ashim]

Ugh, Im an idiot. I managed to mention the hollow moon theory to my wife who is very against believing anything not spoon fed to her by the media or an institution. =OX

Yeh, my wife thinks I am mentaly deranged, a loser, sick, incapable of 'living properly', but I guess that is all part of the sacrifice we chose to make.

[indolering]

Ugh, Im an idiot. I managed to mention the hollow moon theory to my wife who is very against believing anything not spoon fed to her by the media or an institution. =OX

Yeh, my wife thinks I am mentaly deranged, a loser, sick, incapable of 'living properly', but I guess that is all part of the sacrifice we chose to make.

I feel for both you guys...each of you must walk a fine line between keeping harmony within the family and pursuing what you know is right.

I don't have that difficulty myself and I'm grateful for the freedom....
All I can say is continue your search for truth while minimizing conflict with your other half - I'm sure it won't always be easy but you owe it to yourselves to uphold truth wherever you may find it.

[Ashim]

Ugh, Im an idiot. I managed to mention the hollow moon theory to my wife who is very against believing anything not spoon fed to her by the media or an institution. =OX

Yeh, my wife thinks I am mentaly deranged, a loser, sick, incapable of 'living properly', but I guess that is all part of the sacrifice we chose to make.

I feel for both you guys...each of you must walk a fine line between keeping harmony within the family and pursuing what you know is right.

I don't have that difficulty myself and I'm grateful for the freedom....
All I can say is continue your search for truth while minimizing conflict with your other half - I'm sure it won't always be easy but you owe it to yourselves to uphold truth wherever you may find it.

I am so happy that you can feel this.
I am also delighted to share a little more with you.

We choose extremes in order to maximize polarization.

This may interest you and other selves who have a 'difficult' partner.

Disclosure - little by little - (aah! Radiohead again!)

Brought to you via this channel by Bryan DeFlores and the Ashtar Command

The “Orion Princess Code” is actually a mode of operation, which is either karmically or culturally implanted within an individual (usually women) at a very young age. Traits of this Princess Code can be a combination of the following: the need for constant attention and perpetual feelings of entitlement; control and dominance issues; endless complaining; extreme preferences regarding everything; disrespect, jealousy and gossiping of others; lack of gratitude and common courtesy; the need to always be in charge or be looked at as special and the tendency to wander without any physical sense of direction. In addition, many of these individuals will often manifest illusionary ‘so-called’ debilitating illnesses in order for others to serve them. The only way that this Princess Code can be dissolved from the blueprint is to exhibit constant and ‘real’ humbleness and gratitude toward others and God at all times.

[Parsons]

Yes... I see the programming that you refer to as "princess". It does indeed seem very difficult to dismantle this programming, especially when it viraly gets support from the masses that are programmed in a similar fashion. I try to combat it with a sort of humble, yet deep caring for that type of person.

Unfortunately I see logic as always being able to override something that can't hold up to that logic. Even when it challenges what most others believe to be true, which is the moon is there and always has been. The result was her claiming(out of the blue) the medical marijuana I take made me crazy, in so many words.

[Ashim]

Yes... I see the programming that you refer to as "princess". It does indeed seem very difficult to dismantle this programming, especially when it viraly gets support from the masses that are programmed in a similar fashion. I try to combat it with a sort of humble, yet deep caring for that type of person.

Unfortunately I see logic as always being able to override something that can't hold up to that logic. Even when it challenges what most others believe to be true, which is the moon is there and always has been. The result was her claiming(out of the blue) the medical marijuana I take made me crazy, in so many words.

If you require lots of THC tis agood idea to remain well hydrated.
I try to stay well awy from all soda type drinks.
I love good fresh natural spring water - but also a good beer at night!
The vitamins from big pharma are not such a good idea - I feel that the natural source contains many more complex chemical compounds that are key to sustaining good health.
I wish you well.

[Parsons]

Yeah I've sworn off soda again, probably for good. I can't take those super acidic / artificial preservatives at those extreme levels. I have 1 beer a day max, bottle only, for flavor only. Actually I haven't drank in a couple weeks due to lack of interest. I try to remain hydrated as much as I can stand.


Anyways, didn't mean to derail this badly, how about that Luna? That's no moon, it's a space station!(for reals, though )

[Ashim]

There was a great thread on ATS about the coca cola conspiricy.
Again, the symbols are right in front of you.

[Oceania]

mmm coke. what symbols?

[Ashim]

mmm coke. what symbols?

usually subliminal manipulation of images they image says one thing on one level but carries a higher meaning that is usually only recognised by you on a subconscious level.

For example:
Many products contain the trigger word 'light' or 'lite' - here the spelling is not so important as they made you believe in school.

These things serve us in that they test our perception.
I started a thread about interesting things hidden in plain view.

The 'problem' is that mostly stuff that is harmful to you will be 'sold' to you using the symbolic instruction code that is only available to fully conscious entities. Your Highest Self gets the message but your lower self misinterprets.
This is how we are encouraged to polarize, or to seek.
The moon is still a spaceship.
Logo is on the right hand side of the page.

Where is the company headquaters?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola

[indolering]

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quote: the moon is still a spaceship. quote

That's funny. I don't mind at all that this thread winds its way through the cosmos taking any old side route....

The idea that the moon has been fabricated and moved into position seems so preposterous that one has to laugh out loud But when we get over the initial shock of considering such a notion, we can seriously look at the evidence that this may be the case.

But I'd like to comment on your post about coke... Madison Avenue has studied human psychology and knows that symbols rather than statements are the most effective means to influence our behavior. Why? Because symbols penetrate directly into our minds, bypassing our conscious attention and embed themselves into the unconscious. So we are influenced by these attractive symbols without our conscious knowledge or assent. It's pretty insidious when you think about it. It's so subversive, in fact, that the Illuminati use it constantly to bombard our consciousness with their symbols of compliance and control, often putting their messages in plain sight without our being aware of its influence.

[Ashim]

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quote: the moon is still a spaceship. quote

That's funny. I don't mind at all that this thread winds its way through the cosmos taking any old side route....

The idea that the moon has been fabricated and moved into position seems so preposterous that one has to laugh out loud But when we get over the initial shock of considering such a notion, we can seriously look at the evidence that this may be the case.

But I'd like to comment on your post about coke... Madison Avenue has studied human psychology and knows that symbols rather than statements are the most effective means to influence our behavior. Why? Because symbols penetrate directly into our minds, bypassing our conscious attention and embed themselves into the unconscious. So we are influenced by these attractive symbols without our conscious knowledge or assent. It's pretty insidious when you think about it. It's so subversive, in fact, that the Illuminati use it constantly to bombard our consciousness with their symbols of compliance and control, often putting their messages in plain sight without our being aware of its influence.

Yeh, it is sad. You would not believe what else they do. The mind initially rejects it.
I have been down in the park where the madmen play and seen their rape machines.
If you have an exploring mind and a VERY STRONG STOMACH this might be of interest to you.
www.emhdf.com/Monarch-mind-control.pdf

p.s run a check on the url. HAHAHA!!!!!!

[indolering]

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I have been down in the park where the madmen play and seen their rape machines.

Care to expand on this cryptic sentence...? (It's a beautiful sentence, I wish I'd written it - it's prose poetry!)

Thanks for the link. I have Fritz's other book, The 13 Families. I'm quite aware of what they've been up to, having been a researcher of the genre for many years. They've been at it a long time...the Manchurian Candidate....

This topic relates to the thread because the moon is also a matter of deception by the controllers who are aware of the true nature of the moon. This knowledge remains secret because it exposes the existence of aliens which they are not ready to admit. The NWO depends upon secrecy and compartmentalization....

[Ashim]

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I have been down in the park where the madmen play and seen their rape machines.

Care to expand on this cryptic sentence...? (It's a beautiful sentence, I wish I'd written it - it's prose poetry!)


The NWO depends upon secrecy and compartmentalization....

They love this sort of music. Reminds them to of their scripting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ci7lssNMRI
What I said was inspired by that song from the album Replicas. hint,hint.

Yeh they hate exposure...that is so funny because we have infiltrated their computer systems.
Guess how it happened? Some heroic behaivior by some defector?
No the fools were stupid and dumbed down enough to post the url in the internet.
Even funnier - it was on the ashtar command message board!!!!!!!!!!

alpha.lulzimg..........
LOL
Edit: Correction. It was indeed a huge heroic effort. Thank you.

[Namaste]

Isn't that a spin in relation to the sun? As in, any object floating in orbit and never moving in relation to us, still has a spin in relation to the sun?

That does not really mean anything to me.

Ignore the sun for the moment as the moon is an earth satellite.

If you held a basketball on the floor, and then got a tennis ball, and then, while keeping the tennis ball still, rotated it around the earth, you would notice that the side facing the earth 'rotates'. Which would appear as if the moon was spinning (from earth's perspective).

However, if you rotate the tennis ball around the earth, while keeping one side (as such) of the ball always facing the earth, you'll notice that you have to spin the moon to do so, which paradoxically, looks as if the moon is not spinning from earths perspective :¬)

Which is what 'the rotation of the moon is proportional/equal to it's orbit around the earth' means :¬)

[Oceania]

i want a coke lemon. mmm. i'm really thirsty. but that aside, i don't think light affects me, as i think of aspartame. anything that has the word light i get suspicious of.

[Ashim]

i want a coke lemon. mmm. i'm really thirsty. but that aside, i don't think light affects me, as i think of aspartame. anything that has the word light i get suspicious of.

Its so in front of our faces.

The 'energy drink' Red Bull is very popular here in eu.

Now what is a red bull - something to do with the emotion.....

What does it do to you?

hint hint, nudge nudge

[indolering]

Of course! I know the song - I have it on the first X-files album by the Foo Fighters.

You'd like the album...here's one of my fave cuts...

Soul Coughing - Unmarked Helicopters

http://youtu.be/fAHSb5WwADU

[Oceania]

red bull makes me think of nausea, because that's how that would affect me. extreme stomach pains. ugh. and then there's candy wrappers they make me think of chemicals and anxiety. hair products with pretty models make me think of animal testing. and vanity over compassion. but i know as a kid all those things got to me differently. it was only when i recognized the ploys that's when they stopped affecting me.

[Oceania]

here's someone

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/vide...n-us_msnhp

she appears to be one of those MK ultras or monarchs. look at her eyes. especially freeze the picture. do those eyes look normal?

[Parsons]

I just had what I think is a really good idea on a solution to this "moon problem". People have discussed moving it away or... it being destroyed in some way. This would freak most people out, so its not really a good solution unless they all knew what was going on.

So, instead of moving it away or worse, how about we start with rotating it? The precision with which it rotates so we never see the dark side of the moon should speak volumes to you. Wouldn't speeding up or slowing down its rotation in time with the sun make it spin around so we could see all the secret goodies on the dark side before they could make an attempt to hide everything? Couldn't we simply meditate on this and it could potentially happen?

If the general public saw this, all 7 billion would be asking the same question: Who's stuff is that up there? Or at the very least; Why does this side look completely different than the other side?