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    08-27-2012, 07:16 PM (This post was last modified: 08-27-2012, 08:07 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Thanks Cyan for that video.

    Here's one that's specifically about wormholes, black holes and white holes.

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    08-27-2012, 09:02 PM
    (08-27-2012, 07:16 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Thanks Cyan for that video.

    Cyan posted a video? I did not remember seeing one here in this thread.

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    08-27-2012, 09:04 PM
    Yeah, he posted a hyperlink in Post: #1528
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    08-27-2012, 09:11 PM
    (08-27-2012, 09:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Yeah, he posted a hyperlink in Post: #1528

    Oh, sorry. Thanks, GW.
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    08-27-2012, 10:13 PM
    An excerpt from the attached article, in order to give those who may be interested, a flavor of what is in the article:
    Quote:Physicists still don't agree on how to interpret wave collapse. Some claim that answering this question is a job for philosophers, not physicists. Others insist that quantum theory is incomplete and are searching for a deeper explanation of the world. Still, everyone agrees that quantum theory works. We're just not quite sure what it means.

    http://www.physics.uiowa.edu/~umallik/ad...mwave.html

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    08-27-2012, 10:26 PM (This post was last modified: 08-27-2012, 10:27 PM by Ruth.)
    (08-27-2012, 09:11 PM)Confused Wrote:
    (08-27-2012, 09:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Yeah, he posted a hyperlink in Post: #1528

    Oh, sorry. Thanks, GW.

    I missed it, too. Thanks GeminiWolf!
    (08-27-2012, 10:13 PM)Confused Wrote: An excerpt from the attached article, in order to give those who may be interested, a flavor of what is in the article:
    Quote:Physicists still don't agree on how to interpret wave collapse. Some claim that answering this question is a job for philosophers, not physicists. Others insist that quantum theory is incomplete and are searching for a deeper explanation of the world. Still, everyone agrees that quantum theory works. We're just not quite sure what it means.

    http://www.physics.uiowa.edu/~umallik/ad...mwave.html

    It's so nice to know that The Universe is giving those philosophers and physicists something to do while they are here.

    BigSmile
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    08-27-2012, 11:27 PM
    (08-27-2012, 10:26 PM)Ruth Wrote: It's so nice to know that The Universe is giving those philosophers and physicists something to do while they are here.

    I guess the secrets will remain hidden until they/we consciously realize, acknowledge and practice that the universe is US.

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    08-28-2012, 01:28 PM
    (08-27-2012, 11:27 PM)Confused Wrote:
    (08-27-2012, 10:26 PM)Ruth Wrote: It's so nice to know that The Universe is giving those philosophers and physicists something to do while they are here.

    I guess the secrets will remain hidden until they/we consciously realize, acknowledge and practice that the universe is US.

    seeking to explain mysteries always seems to simply create more mystery BigSmile
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    08-28-2012, 03:43 PM
    I'd be amazed to find out how and if the Universe is really infinite if it's only had a finite time to expand. That is if the big bang was really the creation. If the Universe could reach infinite space in finite time, that would be something. I believe we can only see 13.5 billion light years. That's a pretty old Universe.
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    08-28-2012, 04:15 PM
    Well, i've studied space all throughout my life, and been intensly interested to the point of being redicilous in space / physics / quantum-physics and all things related.

    I know a thing or two, infact, i imagine black holes and trip mushrooms on a semi-regular basis, so i suppose you could say i know a bit about them.

    I dont know them, like, THAT well, and i suppose compared to some of... what ever the heck you folks are.... i dont know anything abou tthem. But i would fancy saying that I do, in fact, know something about them.

    Lets start.

    Black holes are singular points of existence spread out over space. Isnt that fun, singular thats spread, it gets funnier.

    The edge of a black hole is the event horizon, the outer edge the ergosphere is the only area in the universe where matter may travel faster than rest state universe speed of light. See, the background spins space itself fast enough so that you can be in that field and spin with it so tha tyou go effectively superluminal.

    That alone should catch everyones attention.

    The next thing about black holes is that once inside you have nothing to worry about, assuming you are not adverse to light/Radiation adn i'm fairly sure that higher densities are not. thought, who knows right, if we build super powerful solarpanels and shields like startrek this might even work for 3d. Anyway. Point being that inside the black hole is, according to modern physics, far as i know, either:

    A. A collection of superstrings. You might call black holes "superstring stars"

    or

    B. A infinitely forceful expanding inflationary pressure in the center that is pushing outwards at speeds greater than the speed of light. meeting all the light in the universe compressed to an infinite wave falling inwards at greater than the speed of light. In there, are forces greater than those in the big bang. Not enough matter to form a new universe? Whatcha talking bout wallax.

    I have a theory that all black holes are in fact one black hole but with varying force through its varying points. So that a black hole is actually a single entity we all perceive as superlocated but in actualy in a single point. Their interconnected nature is the reason why the information paradox doesnt interfere. The black holes themselves are sort of like the information storage points or nexi of the reality itself? =D DUnno, gets pretty weird out at that level. But in reality, as long as you're outside of one, the laws are simple. They are damn interesting things, who knows, they might jus tbe a figment of our imagination like everything else but still. Everything is right? I once made a meditated trip into the heart of a wh40k eye of chaos black hole and saw slaanesh there, it was an interesting experience. I suppose black holes are one of the most interesting concepts in astrophysics. Space might be big but in reality is very very simple. Its gasses, rocks, pushing, pulling, spinning, charge and a few basic actions. Where it gets really interesting is societies and cultures. THats the level where the real wacky weird stuff gets down.

    Suns would be the other end? White hole and black hole, with spectral mass and energy dependant on how "present" the force of its side is at that point. if you turn the principle of their action into a group and that into a "side".

    Black holes and suns.

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    08-28-2012, 04:23 PM
    Good writeup there Cyan.
    I think white holes are more energetic than suns.
    The other end of a black hole could be a sun.
    Since matter is falling in all the time, if it is a Universe behind a black hole, then when does it get enough matter to go bang?
    Is the energy inside a black hole organized enough that a new universe could form with the right physical constants in order that intelligent life could form in that Universe? Things to ponder on.
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    08-28-2012, 09:53 PM (This post was last modified: 08-28-2012, 10:00 PM by Confused.)
    Spaced, I agree.

    Cyan, I am so glad you are here on this thread! Since you are an enthusiast in matters astrophysics and quantum, my fledgling steps to understand them from a completely unfamiliar basis will be greatly helped. Thank you.

    GW, good questions! I think what you ask could be connected deeply with the secret of the Octaves.
    An excerpt from the linked webpage in order to give viewers an idea of what to expect inside
    Quote: What do quantum physics, the Tarot cards, a piano, and a rainbow have in common? Anything you can think of, from astronomy to xylophone, from sub-atomic particles to the orbits of the planets, everything follows a common order. Everyone is familiar with the most obvious example of this order, the musical scale. The octave, a doubling of frequency in twelve half note steps, is universal in all of reality. The natural harmonic relationships are displayed on the piano keyboard, with seven major and five minor probabilities. This is the natural order of reality, an intrinsic pattern the universe follows.
    http://bobfoote.angelfire.com/octaves.html

    I think the above link may be of interest to many.
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    08-29-2012, 04:20 AM
    See, this is what i find difficult to believe, that i would have actual literal information that would be of actual use to you. I find it difficult to believe that everyone would not simply go to the core and access all the information automatically themselves and then ome out. But i do suppose i see the point in acting like my knowledge actually matters. I might never know if its true though.

    Anyway, there was an interesting theory i read about i think it was in brane theory about how it would i think look like if there was a "plane" of black hole "stuff" in reality and various other really weird things and how it would interact with light and its perception and time. Black holes and superstrings are a super weird topic.
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    08-29-2012, 12:42 PM (This post was last modified: 08-29-2012, 12:46 PM by Confused.)
    Thank you for sharing your opinion frankly, Cyan Smile
    Nietzsche on Self-Control | Psychology Today
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    08-30-2012, 12:12 AM
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    08-30-2012, 06:00 AM
    some info about black holes in this article :

    http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/08...telescope/

    Cool
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    08-30-2012, 10:56 AM
    (08-30-2012, 12:12 AM)Confused Wrote:

    Very interesting video, Confused. Did that one speak to you in some way?
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    08-30-2012, 02:37 PM (This post was last modified: 08-30-2012, 02:45 PM by Confused.)
    (08-30-2012, 06:00 AM)Meerie Wrote: some info about black holes in this article :

    http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/08...telescope/

    Cool

    Thank you, Meerie Smile From the link, I learned that Sagittarius A is the name of the black hole at the center of our galaxy. I did not know that before.

    Thank you Smile
    (08-30-2012, 10:56 AM)Ruth Wrote: Did that one speak to you in some way?

    For a student of the LOO, the contents of the video would not be that surprising, I think.

    If it spoke something to me, then it is that humans should make a conscious attempt to learn from our past and take responsibility for our own selves in the present. High technology and great spiritual knowledge is no substitute for commonsense unity and respect in dealing with each other in terms of building one another up. Otherwise, we all go down most painfully.
    Oldest Temple in the World

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    I've wondered why they intentionally buried the site.
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    (08-30-2012, 06:02 PM)Ruth Wrote: I've wondered why they intentionally buried the site.

    I have no idea too. Probably we can only speculate.
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    08-30-2012, 11:43 PM
    Cygnus X-3 and the Cosmic Ray Question

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    08-31-2012, 10:14 AM
    Confused - I couldn't open that link.

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    08-31-2012, 06:07 PM (This post was last modified: 08-31-2012, 06:07 PM by Confused.)
    (08-31-2012, 10:14 AM)Ruth Wrote: Confused - I couldn't open that link.

    Dear Ruth, I tried opening and it is opening for me.

    Here is the link -- http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articl...gnusx3.htm

    Try opening the above directly and please let me know.

    Are you well? Heart

    much love, Smile
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    08-31-2012, 07:12 PM
    THE SECRET OF CYGNUS X-3 Why Should We Care About This Very Distant Star?
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    The Mayan Calendar and the Four Ages or Periods of the Sun
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    09-02-2012, 05:35 AM (This post was last modified: 09-02-2012, 06:10 AM by Confused.)
    Quote:63.25 Questioner: Then at some time in the future the fourth-density sphere will be fully activated. What is the difference between full activation and partial activation for this sphere?

    Ra: I am Ra. At this time the cosmic influxes are conducive to true-color green core particles being formed and material of this nature thus being formed. However, there is a mixture of the yellow-ray and green-ray environments at this time necessitating the birthing of transitional mind/body/spirit complex types of energy distortions. At full activation of the true-color green density of love the planetary sphere will be solid and inhabitable upon its own and the birthing that takes place will have been transformed through the process of time, shall we say, to the appropriate type of vehicle to appreciate in full the fourth-density planetary environment. At this nexus the green-ray environment exists to a far greater extent in time/space than in space/time.

    Scientists Prove DNA Can Be Reprogrammed by Words and Frequencies
    Quote:63.27 Questioner: I will make this statement and have you correct me. What we have is, as our planet is spiraled by the spiraling action of the entire major galaxy and our planetary system spirals into the new position, the fourth-density vibrations becoming more and more pronounced. These atomic core vibrations begin to create, more and more completely, the fourth-density sphere and the fourth-density bodily complexes for inhabitation of that sphere. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. To be corrected is the concept of the creation of green-ray density bodily complexes. This creation will be gradual and will take place beginning with your third-density type of physical vehicle and, through the means of bisexual reproduction, become by evolutionary processes, the fourth-density body complexes.

    63.28 Questioner: Then are these entities of whom we have spoken, the third-density harvestable who have been transferred, the ones who then will, by bisexual reproduction, create the fourth-density complexes that are necessary?

    Ra: I am Ra. The influxes of true-color green energy complexes will more and more create the conditions in which the atomic structure of cells of bodily complexes is that of the density of love. The mind/body/spirit complexes inhabiting these physical vehicles will be, and to some extent, are, those of whom you spoke and, as harvest is completed, the harvested entities of this planetary influence.
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    09-02-2012, 11:24 AM (This post was last modified: 09-02-2012, 11:25 AM by Confused.)
    The "Cygnus Event" -- The Probable Effects of Cosmic Radiation
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    09-02-2012, 11:29 AM
    Thanks for posting those Quotes, Confused. I was thinking the other day about us spiraling into a position in the galaxy where 4D energies are intensified.
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    09-03-2012, 12:34 AM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2012, 12:48 AM by Confused.)
    (09-02-2012, 11:29 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Thanks for posting those Quotes, Confused. I was thinking the other day about us spiraling into a position in the galaxy where 4D energies are intensified.

    Anytime, dear GW! Anytime Smile
    This is a video:

    Cygnus Mystery: Cosmic Star Pt.1/6

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