11-01-2012, 08:12 PM
(11-01-2012, 01:42 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(11-01-2012, 12:23 AM)Sagittarius Wrote:(10-31-2012, 11:41 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(10-31-2012, 11:25 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: Zenmaster what do you mean by "It sounds like an infringement of the other groups to have the transplants "speak" for the whole planet, which apparently they could do" ?Functions according to the law of squares, correct? They share a subcollective mind. If they desire the 4D- info and assistance, as apparently is their tendency, that would necessarily involve the other groups at some point. (The 4D+ are also necessarily kept out to preserve free will.)
(10-31-2012, 11:25 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: Are you talking about the fact that if the transplants from a planet further into the 3d cycle penetrate the forgetting they could break free will of the natives?They are much more polarized, as a group due to 37,000 more years of 3D experience. Nothing really to do with polarizing that far (past forgetting), though.
So free will on this planet is basically to negate any bias towards either 4d+ or 4d- influence and to set everyone at square one so to speak?
Free will exists regardless. But the 4D+ and 4D- info and assistance is a response to a calling which functions by the "law of squares". The calling is what would be a function of their polarity (which is related to their seniority) and pre-existing bias developed thousands of years before time on Earth. What they could do with assistance could jeopardize the developmental process of the other groups here - like freely choosing to be slaves to the "empire" (as Ra says, it beggars their ability to enumerate the conditions we accept). That situation would normally be fine wrt to calling, but they were artificially introduced here - which creates a number of problems. Some of the problems, presumably, are still attempting to be addressed by the massive amount of wanderers here now.
(11-01-2012, 12:23 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: Giving the transplants the opportunity on even ground to choose there influence again without the 4d- negative bias of there previous collective mind?As far as I can tell, as a 3D native here, you'd need rather high polarization in either direction in order to have direct contact. I'm not sure the Martian "social complex" had a 4D- bias, so much as a social-framework bias which might willingly welcome concepts promoted and exploited by the Orions.
So in short, it would be a "bad thing" to lift the quarantine - because it would simply mean a vote.
Thanks Zen makes more sense now.