(11-04-2012, 07:23 PM)unir 1 Wrote: I don't think a 4d STO response, in a physical way or otherwise, to a 3d call would infringe on free-will.I'm saying it would if it affected multiple individuals which is what the broad calling is asking for.
(11-04-2012, 07:23 PM)unir 1 Wrote: I'm perceiving that what you said about the planet-wide call is not about the whole race of a planet whom would send a calling, because then there would be no way of infringement from a STO response.I don't mean a planet-wide call, I mean a call with sufficient strength to involve the entire planet. In that case a STO response effecting multiple individuals would violate free will.
(11-04-2012, 07:23 PM)unir 1 Wrote: Like you've said, there may have to be (I don't remember how Ra had put it exactly) a strong enough call from a group or a great mass of people and then the response would be received. I'm not clear how others desiring other services would be infringed upon; they would not get what they sought, but is that the infringement?It is possible infringement due to different biases, lines and stages of development here. If you change culture you are severely affecting choice (regarding service orientation). The experience of weighing that decision according to naive approaches is "free will". You simply don't have the naive approach with a certain amount of distilled experience - thus the problem of quarantine.
(11-04-2012, 07:23 PM)unir 1 Wrote: The people who do receive something out of a 4d+ (positive) service might use that "thing" negatively but that's the individual's choice ...and perhaps the StO entity would not even give them that "thing" (info/item) if the intent is STS. I do recall Ra saying that the calling had to be sincere. The serving entity would most likely not just give information if we were deceptively asking for it under a service-to-others pretext.It would mean that our progression lacks certain influences which may result in more confusion. I think this is the reason for the massive amounts of wanderers incarnating which attempt, as compensation, to remove confusion, albeit subtly due to inability to remember.
As for the response/service/4d-investment on the 3d graduation (this might not be related to your post)...I don't think it is necessary. I mean we are quarantined, so that is supposed to mean that our progression is not normal, correct?
(11-04-2012, 07:23 PM)unir 1 Wrote: Plus, we have received very helpful channeling, pyramids, crystal knowledge...maybe I've misinterpreted your post. Would you say that 4d investment is liken to 4d entities becoming noticeable to the 3d entity, like appearing before us or speaking to us telepathically, or that they would imbue us in Love? And instead of that happening (since being placed on quarantine) we have to learn all the "good stuff" by ourselves?There are different types of responses. I'm talking about those which influence culture - the social mind. 4D has been basically been blocked here due to their lower-vibrations and polarized inclinations.