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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material What is Magic?

    Thread: What is Magic?


    Shin'Ar

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    11-12-2012, 07:42 PM
    (11-12-2012, 04:06 PM)plenum Wrote:
    (11-12-2012, 10:23 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Magic is the intentional effort to connect with what 'seems' to be the other, which, when connected with, becomes the evolved aspect of what existed prior to that connection.

    well, Mr Shin, that has to be one of the shortest postings that you've made to these boards ever!

    on the topic of magic and magical rituals, it reminded me of this bit of Q'uo. It is a somewhat challenging piece that addresses the issue of those (ie us) who reach for things before they are in a position to receive them (and integrate them fully). I'm sure there is a place for spiritual gadgets such as ritual magic, but they are powerful tools indeed.

    Quote:Now, you have asked why those who desire most keenly to serve purely experience difficult incarnations, and why those who use gadgets, such as pyramids, crystals and magical rituals, also run into a good deal of difficulty in the life experience as perceived subjectively.

    Let us take the case of those who are using gadgets such as drugs, or shapes, or methods of focusing concentration, in order to aid their service to others, for their difficulties arise from a different level than others. Those who are willing to use a crutch in order to vault themselves upwards into the light, whether the crutch be drugs, or magical rituals, or whatever other occult science may be used as a gadget, have literally pulled themselves to a place for which they have not worked, and for which they well may not be ready. Whether or not they are ready to experience the wisdom and light, the love and compassion, of intercourse with the deity they must reckon with the falseness of their position in the light. Drugs wear off. The magical personality may crumble between the grocery store and gas station. Occult wisdom may leave one without resources when something occurs that is completely against that particular dogmatic method of perceiving the archetypical mind. And alone at last with itself, this entity who has no crutch now, finds itself committed to dispensing actions and words and the very beingness of its self in a way congruent with what it has learned. The crutch is gone, but the entity is responsible for the light that that crutch has gained.

    Thus, it may be seen that those who by any means other than natural move themselves to transformation, must needs be responsible for that which has been gained long after the crutch has been thrown away. The more effective the use of the crutch has been to an entity, the greater will be the disparity between that entity’s awareness of truth and that entity’s ability to show it forth in the life experience.

    Thusly, we have always encouraged entities who seek spiritually to do so honestly and naturally, having infinite patience for the wayward, conscious self. It is in fact a breach of the love of self to use any crutch whatsoever to gain knowledge of the most high, for it is an action of one who does not love or trust the self as much as it loves and trusts other selves. It finds itself quite unworthy, and must needs use this crutch to gain access to spiritual awareness. Entities, therefore, that have experienced difficulty because of using a crutch of any kind that alters the consciousness of the self, will find themselves in a difficult position, for they have attempted to serve others before they have learned to love themselves, and therefore to love others without stint.

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0324.aspx


    "It is a somewhat challenging piece that addresses the issue of those (ie us) who reach for things before they are in a position to receive them (and integrate them fully)."

    I sense that this was written after you have read another of my posts. lol


    Plenum, I am aware of your bond with the Tarot and Ra's interpretation of it.

    But what you must also acknowledge is that very system of information is not for the evolved who reach a state of being in which such information is entirely understood; rather it is a system of guidance offering the opportunity to discover the information which is hidden within.

    It was not coded for the sake of being relayed to those who already know it. It was designed in this way for those who are in the process of coming to understand the truths which reside there.

    The library in a university is not there for the intellects that have already acquired an knowledge of the information stored there. It is there for those who are learning.

    What Quo speaks of here is not suggesting that acquiring information beyond one's comprehension is wrong. It is simply pointing out that using methods to advance one's self beyond their evolved state of comprehension will result in oneself finding themselves in a classroom filled with students of a grade far beyond their own.

    The shortcut or secret passage you used to get there does not also advance you into higher being just because you have managed to skip ahead.

    The crutch is not the gadgets, it is the deployment of those gadgets.

    Quo does not suggest that gadgets are a wasted effort, just that improper and untimely use of them will only enable brief passages to places where one may not be prepared to visit.

    BUT, for those who are prepared and do know the processes such medium is very efficient and useful.

    The untimely use of such 'gadgets' results in the same corrupted fundamentalism and extremism that we find from science to occultism and into religion around the world. Many discover information that they then corrupt with their own lack of understanding, and the crutch used to acquire that information, being weak, cannot offer strong support.

    Plenum, if you can determine the message offered in the correlation between the vine in this card and the hanging man card, you will further understand what I speak to here.

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    What is Magic? - by caycegal - 09-19-2012, 12:54 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Unbound - 09-19-2012, 03:26 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Bring4th_Austin - 09-19-2012, 04:40 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by anagogy - 09-19-2012, 05:01 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Siren - 09-19-2012, 07:12 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Plenum - 09-19-2012, 07:17 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by kycahi - 09-19-2012, 08:31 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by βαθμιαίος - 09-19-2012, 09:17 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 09-20-2012, 06:01 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Cyan - 09-20-2012, 06:13 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Unbound - 09-20-2012, 06:29 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 09-20-2012, 09:55 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by caycegal - 09-20-2012, 10:56 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Patrick - 09-20-2012, 11:08 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 09-20-2012, 12:00 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Patrick - 09-20-2012, 01:12 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 09-20-2012, 02:37 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Patrick - 09-20-2012, 07:19 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by AnthroHeart - 10-11-2012, 09:08 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Patrick - 10-11-2012, 09:18 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by anagogy - 10-13-2012, 06:10 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by caycegal - 10-13-2012, 03:51 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by anagogy - 10-13-2012, 04:17 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by βαθμιαίος - 09-20-2012, 01:16 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 09-20-2012, 04:53 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Spaced - 09-20-2012, 05:22 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 09-20-2012, 05:39 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by abstrktion - 10-14-2012, 12:51 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 10-20-2012, 07:50 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by MissMiko - 10-15-2012, 07:15 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Cyan - 10-20-2012, 08:14 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 10-20-2012, 08:48 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Cyan - 10-20-2012, 08:59 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 10-21-2012, 08:23 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by spero - 10-22-2012, 12:01 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 10-22-2012, 09:05 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Cyan - 11-06-2012, 01:18 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 11-07-2012, 10:19 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Cyan - 11-07-2012, 12:12 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 11-08-2012, 08:09 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Cyan - 10-22-2012, 12:19 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by zenmaster - 10-22-2012, 12:33 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by caycegal - 10-21-2012, 10:00 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by oneisall - 10-20-2012, 12:20 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Patrick - 10-20-2012, 10:10 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by zenmaster - 10-22-2012, 12:16 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Aureus - 11-05-2012, 06:54 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by zenmaster - 11-06-2012, 02:04 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Lycen - 11-06-2012, 03:25 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Cyan - 11-06-2012, 03:27 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Aureus - 11-06-2012, 09:28 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Ankh - 11-06-2012, 02:14 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Spaced - 11-08-2012, 09:23 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by native - 11-09-2012, 02:33 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 11-12-2012, 10:23 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Plenum - 11-12-2012, 04:06 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 11-12-2012, 07:42 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 12-03-2012, 09:18 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Plenum - 12-03-2012, 04:26 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 12-04-2012, 09:55 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Plenum - 12-08-2012, 01:07 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by caycegal - 11-12-2012, 06:58 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Plenum - 11-12-2012, 07:35 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Conifer16 - 11-12-2012, 07:02 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Patrick - 11-12-2012, 08:16 PM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Plenum - 12-03-2012, 06:04 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Confused - 12-03-2012, 07:46 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Aureus - 12-04-2012, 10:30 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by LastBreath - 12-10-2012, 02:45 AM
    RE: What is Magic? - by Shin'Ar - 12-10-2012, 07:22 AM

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