(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Thanks for the info! Yes- I think we will all be much better off once we start framing cancer for what it is- a process that occurs in the body, not something we "catch" like pneumonia, or some totally random thing which just "happens" to us.
Chances are, we all have a few cells that turn cancerous every day. It's how the body handles them that counts.
Exactly!!! I really like Dr. Bernardo's attitude towards it...he says to be grateful that one's body is doing its job! Cancer is just a response, trying to tell the person that something needs attention.
But it's been twisted into a monster that strikes randomly. It needn't be a death sentence! So many people were seemingly fine...living their lives, active, enjoying life...then went in for a routine mammogram...6 months later they're dead. One can only wonder how many of those people would still be alive, had they not gone looking for cancer!
A Chinese doctor once told me: "Don't go looking for problems. If you body has a problem, it will let you know! And if it does let you know, you need to pay attention!"
I chose to accept that adage as truth.
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:Quote:These are just a small sampling of my own friends, family and customers.
Here are a few more:
G, in his 80s, had a massive tumor in his back. He bought the machine so he could use the water in his herbal heart tonic formula. (He did, and his customers commented about how much better it was! asked him if he was doing something different...) The very first week, the tumor started 'draining' and shrunk about 25%. His wife woke up happy for the first time in 15 years. She had been on antidepressants all that time. After a few days of the water, she quit her meds. Unfortunately, she never could get her husband to drink enough of the water. He was a workaholic and just drank coffee all day. This is also a good example of how people can be locked into their paradigm. His herbal tonic has stopped a heart attack in its tracks previously, so he thought he didn't need to address the underlying problem; all he needed to do was just keep a bottle of the tonic handy at all times! But the herbal tonic didn't help the next time. His wife was very frustrated that he was so stubborn and wouldn't drink much water, despite getting such amazing results with the tumor. I mean, who wouldn't keep drinking it if the tumor was shrinking, right? (shakes head)
D's husband sells health insurance, so she has always had the very best medical care and meds. She'd been on meds for 15 years, but still had arthritis and fibromyalgia pain. She could barely open and close her hands, and spent most of her weekend in bed. I loaned them our low-end machine and she got partial pain relief. She was thrilled! Then they bought the top machine and she got total pain relief. She said she could actually feel the pain leaving her body as she drank the water!
Lots of overweight people say the weight just drops off when they drink the water, but that didn't happen for me. (I developed some metabolism issues after being sick so many years...but you already know about that.)
I recently got this email from someone in Africa:
Quote:Dear Monica,
How are you doing? Before i got home my had already started giving the water to some elderly people in my area. There have been good response and very impressive comments. we are monitoring this for a about three months and would then start distributiing the water to some patients as planned in the small hospitals.
An old lady said: ''My son where from this amazing water. I am living without my pills( for pain relieve for the past one month). I get up in the morning as if I am 20 years younger. This is a miracle from God!''
Regards,
K
The next day, I got this from another person, whose daughter was getting great results with cancer:
Quote:Oh, yes it helped! Thank you so so so much! You're the best. I'm sure there are many people, besides J & I, who believe they owe their lives to you. I'm so glad you're the one who called me back when I made that first inquiry on the internet. You ARE the gift that keeps on giving!!
C
I'm NOT posting these as any sort of ego trip! I don't get the credit! I'm just showing that these are very REAL people! This is common...I get these all the time. It's not me; it's the water!
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Those damn things! They're MUCH worse than cigarettes! (But we've already discussed this.)
Yeah, if it weren't for the damn sodas, our success rate would skyrocket. I continue to have my mind blown at how many people I meet who are sick and in pain, but won't give up the sodas. This indicates just how addictive they are!
I no longer loan machines out unless they commit to giving up soda.
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: That can be arranged! Plus, you could even bring your machine if you wanted to!
What, are you going to gift me some property?? Why thank you so much!!! That's mighty generous of you!

Hell yeah I'd take my machine!

(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Which sort of reminds me... how come there aren't ionized water outlets where people can bring receptacles and get them filled for a fee? I'm thinking of all those "Water n' Ice" stores around Arizona where you can fill up your water jugs with R/O water. Could be a great way to introduce people to the water without them having to buy a machine, and to make it more accessible to those who can't afford one of their own.
There are many such outlets scattered across the country and in other countries too. J and B, 2 of my friends who bought machines for me, both have water stores.
Other brands don't do that. They rely on us to give away the water, then try to snatch up the sales afterwards. We do it because we know people will get results. (Though the water has lost most of its ORP by the next day, and their results will be much better once they are getting it fresh from their own machine.)
We don't bottle the water, though, because it needs to be drunk fresh. Whole Foods now carries a couple of brands of alkaline water, but they test positive ORP (oxidizing). Also, the pH is 10 times more acidic than the water fresh from the machine. Unless you get lucky and buy a bottle the day after it was bottled! Still, it's good to know if one is traveling and must buy bottled water.
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:Yes... and even lamestream MDs say this... but yet people want their pills.... and don't want to give up their precious soda pops and hamburgers.
Yup! Did you see that cartoon of the doc telling the patient to change his diet, exercise, and come back in 3 weeks? The look on the patient's face!
Most people want a quick fix. It's all about whether they are ready to take some responsibility for this particular catalyst. It takes work to heal a major disease going the alternative route. Even with the water, there are still emotional issues that can bubble up, that need to be addressed. Whenever I deal with very sick people, I always tell them to be aware that they might even feel worse before they feel better...they might have emotional as well as physical detox. But the good news is that the water seems to help bring all that to the surface and wash it away.
Since emotions are stored in the cells, it makes sense!
Many years ago, I got some herbs from a Chinese doctor. I could literally feel sadness being washed out of my lungs, and anger out of the liver. I know you are aware that Chinese medicine associates certain emotions with certain organs. It was uncanny, how obvious it was at the time.
I've seen this happen with the water too. People tend to have old issues bubble up...it's remarkable to behold!
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: what do you recommend for an ORP meter?
I have 3 different brands but like this one the best:
http://www.eseasongear.com/mismorpme.html
This site has the best price too, last I checked.
Note: You do NOT need to buy any of the solutions! Those are for testing positive ORP. You do need to condition the probe, but not like that. When/if you get one, let me know and I will tell you some important tips on how to use it for negative ORP.
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: LOL... luckily a magnet, unlike a crystal, does not tend to lose its polarization once acquired!
But remember those 2 STO Wanderers who tried to control the community and woke up 'disconcerted' that they had graduated STS? They switched polarity and didn't even realize it! (NOT saying you are in any danger of that!!!)
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: That's one of the reasons I sort ofat the whole pH thing. Not that it's totally wrong... although many people give very distorted explanations of it. The thing is that it doesn't really add anything new to the mix, other than confusion.
Yes, there is a lot of confusing info out there. Many mistakenly say that high pH = negative ORP. Not true. The bottled alkaline waters typically test at around 8.5 (blue with pH drops) but once I got one that tested purple! (9.5) It was the same brand that normally tested blue. It was, apparently, just a newer bottle. (See that's the problem with buying bottled alkaline water...not to mention the price! It would be many many times more expensive than buying one's own machine, in the long run...even in the short term!)
But this water, though alkaline, tested positive ORP. One can add baking soda or coral calcium, or even Celtic seasalt, and raise the pH about a point. (Though you have to add a lot of salt! too salty to drink. And baking soda and salt both add sodium.) Baking soda and salt will still yield a positive ORP, showing that the ORP is independent of the pH. Coral calcium will yield a negative ORP, depending on the kind of water you put it in, but only about -80, tops. Which is ok, and will do in a pinch, like when traveling! If I were to travel but couldn't take my machine, I would take coral calcium with me to put in the water. In fact, I gave my hubby some coral sachets to take with him on the plane, since he had no choice but to drink bottled water on the plane.
To put that number in perspective, green tea tests at about -80 also. But our water, fresh from the machine, is anywhere from -400 to -1000, with -600 to -800 being the most common. So it is roughly 10 times the antioxidant power of green tea!
(That's not counting the microclustering factor. Just talking about ORP right now.)
I did a test, to see just how oxidizing our water would get over time. I ran some water and tested with both pH drops (violet) and pH meter (10.25 when run slowly at the 9.5 setting). ORP was -780. I put this water in a dark bottle and capped it.
The next day, as expected, the ORP had dropped to -200, and the pH had dropped to 9.75. The day after that, the ORP had dropped to neutral (right around 0), and the pH stayed steady. On day 4, the ORP had dropped to +100 (slightly oxidizing) and pH still stayed steady.
(Note: When I say "dropped" I meant a decrease in antioxidant quality. But viewed numerically, a decrease in antioxidant is actually an increase in numerical value. Ie. what actually happened was -780 rose to -200, rose to +100...so mathematically I guess I should say rose instead of dropped. Depends on how you want to look at it.)
I continued to test it every now and then for the next year! Even a year later, the ORP was still at +100! This alone was huge! Because bottled waters are typically at least +250, and often +350 or even higher. Tap water is typically anywhere from 350+ to 600+ yikes! Filtered tap water in my area drops the ORP about 100 points, indicating that some of that oxidizing effect is from the chlorine.
So, even though we recommend drinking the water fresh from the machine for optimal results, it was good to know that our water never got anywhere near as oxidizing as other waters, even after a year! (Which is another key feature of the medically-certified machine...stability of the water...something that isn't shown on those youtube tests.)
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: The way to "alkalinize" the body is to eat foods with an abundance of minerals. So basically, eat a lot of vegetables and some fruit. Nothing really new there.
True, assuming the person has an abundance of minerals. I'd been a vegetarian for many years, and was doing a lot of juicing (concentrated alkalizing!) yet was still very acidic. I couldn't figure out why! I mean, dangerously acidic! After almost dying and almost losing my teeth, I finally figured out that the distilled water was leaching my minerals. I was an extreme case, though.
What happens a lot is that people might be doing all the right things with their alkalizing diet, but unless they are drinking 3 quarts of green juice per day (which some do! and are healed), chances are they aren't getting the results they should be, because they didn't take water into consideration. Just a good, basic, high-fruit-and-veggie diet might be fine for maintenance, but if they are drinking acidic, oxidizing water, they're kinda taking 1 step forward, 1 step back. They might still be acidic. It's so much easier to get alkaline when we add alkaline water to the equation.
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: How is that measured?
If I knew that, I'd be rich! Because I could prove why our water is better than the competitors, and would no longer hear people whining that they bought xyz machine and didn't get the same results.
We can get a bit of an idea, with the teabag demo, but it doesn't measure. They do it in a lab in Japan. I have no idea how. Probably proprietary. I just know it has to do with voltage and surface area. The cheap knockoff machines lack both. So they produce pH and ORP just fine, but lack that elusive 3rd property, which WE know is there because we experience it!
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: No, not yet. Just got back from Costa Rica and catching up...
Really? Oh and I just mentioned Costa Rica, and I had no idea!!
Do watch the videos. There is some good technical info in all 3 of them. The part about the water absorbing in the esophagus is pretty mind-blowing!
(11-15-2012, 12:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Yes! Why you didn't ask? Because a few years back some friends of mine got Secret World on DVD and it was on repeat for about a week!
Oh so you have great taste in music TOO??? Gosh, Tenet, now I'm really impressed! (watch that ego!!! haha)
SWL is absolutely one of the greatest masterpieces ever recorded, as far as live shows go. Tangent: Are you a lunatic? Have you kept up with his other stuff? Brilliant, all! But that's a whole 'nother conversation!