(11-18-2012, 11:55 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(11-18-2012, 11:01 PM)unir 1 Wrote: You may be considering that some opportunities are distinctly essential because they pertain to learning about the nature of the entity (red-ray self, orange-ray self, etc) but I am saying that no learning opportunity is more essential than any other, so as to be lost/denied after something like 4D contact occurs.Disagree entirely due to short lifespans, fragile egos, and tremendous lack of responsibility and progress stifling demonstrated so far by the people. Through them, as the epitomization of a transcendent principle, we would seek all that we have denied ourselves.
So those things all incite a desire for transcendence, is that what you're saying?
Basically, when seeking to transcend, one would ultimately face those obstacles placed upon oneself, yet they would try uselessly to dodge them...like a cycle right? If I'm correct, I think I get what you mean when you're saying that such would be undesirable/prolonging development.
What is there to do about this?
I'm assuming from the next part of your post, that the intervention is not a good thing from any entity at all, or is there an exception?
I would suggest a careful penetration into the distortions of the individuals, each 1, and dissolution of said distortions...what do you think would become of that?
(11-18-2012, 11:55 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(11-18-2012, 11:01 PM)unir 1 Wrote: A learning opp. may be forgotten temporarily if an entity is distracted while looking at 4D marvels, but it would still be the responsibility of the individual entity to work on learning their "essentials".It is precisely because of the individual's responsibility that there would be a delay. And the 4D-marvel distraction is not the primary reason and actually rather insignificant compared to presence and embodiment of 4D vibrations. Thrown into intense confusion, the delay would approach karmic levels for the 4D entities and progress would indeed suffer greatly. So if there was "contact", it would be a sign that things are not going well at all for the people and a last resort was needed. Further, due to "free will" there must be allowed contact from the opposing viewpoint of same vibrational quality - also undesirable.
Seems to me that if there was a contact...it would be as I said, not a very good idea. I'll ask this in a relevant way: if people started utilizing their opportunities, there would be (according to you) no need for contact or even a desire to transcend? I think it's obvious, but I still might be misunderstanding.
For the bold part: Are you willing to describe the process/mechanics of this karma-like concept?