11-19-2012, 04:57 PM
Tl;dr:
always have friends that you can rely on, referred to as watchers present during a trip when beginning the practice. Always prefer countries where legal due to lessened psychological stress.
usually you leave with more questions than you entered with.
Cant say how it works but can share experiences:
For me, I have 10 or so major experiences.
Once doing 20g syrian rue and maybe 2-3g dmt (wrong mix ratio caused hospitalization and near death and some severe mocking by some negative entities for a while now, but the negatives have turned out to be one of the best groups of guides I have EVER met, especially because of their blatantly open negative nature and its possible use for positive, interesting story on its own. The kind of guys who advocate moving the whole human civilization underground and reforesting the planet surface that consider sex kind of distant and spend most of their time thinking about how thought works and programming themselves to be more efficient thinkers of abstract things)
I had 3 hours of 160bpm until i finally agreed to go to the hospital. While significant spiritually for the various chains it knocked lose in my thoughts by its liberating effect, the experience itself is still so disjointed i'd rather not analyze it in detail for years even though the visuals themselves were very mild for me, the emotional sensations were incredibly intense, due to the mix ratio mistake as stated.
Before that I ate pot brownies 2-3 times, each to strong or super redicilously strong effect. Once when I was in service and on my day off. Wandered around the hallways super stoned out of my gourd while there was a meeting or something going on about pacifists and their rights. Funny that i managed to walk out sober. REminded me of fear and loathing.
The other time I was in Dam and ate 2 abraxis pot brownies (supposedly best shop in D for brownies) and i spent 3 hours online confessing my life to a girl that i did love but never kind of could get a hold for in my sexuality, she felt non existant, (pun really intended).
during this whole time it felt like someone was pulling my muscle fibers up through my back by "cutting" them away at the very lower back and then sort of pulling them away one long strand at a time while i felt on fire. Super kundalini high. I could maintain it for 2-3 hours before I vomited all over the internet cafe and was thrown out after cleaning. They put me to sit in the front on a chair and i spent the next 3-6 hours vomiting and being astral. Every time someone talked to me I threw up uncontrolably. One time one of my countrymen, passed by and commented to his friend ("look at that poor guy, throwing up on the street" to which i responded in our language "sure is, when ever you see someone throwing up on the street, its one of ours!")
Both times the internal experiences were much more interesting, the internal experience during the vomity confessy one was of me being alternatively high on kundalini and being tortured by these little spirits in a kind of "test your strength" thing.
Both a long long time ago.
2 pot things before 1 ayahusca thing.
I did LSD once and during the experience my girlfriend and guide turned first into spirits talking of me in the 3rd person, then spirits talking straight to me (You see your mind shifting), then to angels (see these things are angels of perception), then to archangels (see using these you can look behind you and at the god that is actually internal in the face of the external) then to nothingness (void in which i felt i was in roughly 20 years learning why not to lie) and then back into this nothigness with bright colors where my guide asked me "if he now knows more than me" i being absolutely exhausted from the experience and indifferent at that point i said yes. The other reason being that I felt he was asking if it was okay for him to put a filter on my incoming data stream from the cosmos to make some modifications that i wanted to make to myself. I said yes.
After that I went outside and ran into a friend of mine who asked if i wanted to teleport out, i said no, stating that those who want to jump out at this state, are, in my view, quite silly as this admitted ability to talk to the entities makes this playing field quite good.
Later on i felt that this was not a good answer to give and I shoul dhave, in stead, opted to jump to a random planet if given the option of coming back. Poor me for not asking about the return option right.
Anyway, after that I was "fully telepathic" that is to say, fully aware of everything connected and its matter in everything around me to the point of having no percetible ego difference and having random people around me say what I was thinking. That lasted roughly 5 months until I took mushrooms for the first time and navigated back to my own timeline and focused on a old relationship issue with a girl i have / had a crush on that floated around in my brain. With the help of my 2 neg guides I was able to "solve" this issue satisfactorily. Afterwards I ate mushrooms 2 more times, i think, but its possible its only once and the 2nd time is a piggybacked memory onto the side of the first one.
Anyway, during these trips i discussed a variety of things with neg and pos spirits and slowly started to integrate my 3rd eye more fully into the rest of my psyche. Slow work it but slowly paying off now that I have a feet in both worlds, so to say.
anyway. The long of it is that when you do enough hallucinogens at a single time you are kind of telling the other side that that is a good time to contact you. And they will start to do weird stuff around you to try to grab your attention in a good way until you "hone in" on the signal and then sort of try to talk directly to you through time. Kind of like channeling but boosted. So recommend caution and screen your guides well and ask for protection before and treat it as the point where the spirit may interact and you'll see intresting things.
Dunno, its worked for me though.
always have friends that you can rely on, referred to as watchers present during a trip when beginning the practice. Always prefer countries where legal due to lessened psychological stress.
usually you leave with more questions than you entered with.
Cant say how it works but can share experiences:
For me, I have 10 or so major experiences.
Once doing 20g syrian rue and maybe 2-3g dmt (wrong mix ratio caused hospitalization and near death and some severe mocking by some negative entities for a while now, but the negatives have turned out to be one of the best groups of guides I have EVER met, especially because of their blatantly open negative nature and its possible use for positive, interesting story on its own. The kind of guys who advocate moving the whole human civilization underground and reforesting the planet surface that consider sex kind of distant and spend most of their time thinking about how thought works and programming themselves to be more efficient thinkers of abstract things)
I had 3 hours of 160bpm until i finally agreed to go to the hospital. While significant spiritually for the various chains it knocked lose in my thoughts by its liberating effect, the experience itself is still so disjointed i'd rather not analyze it in detail for years even though the visuals themselves were very mild for me, the emotional sensations were incredibly intense, due to the mix ratio mistake as stated.
Before that I ate pot brownies 2-3 times, each to strong or super redicilously strong effect. Once when I was in service and on my day off. Wandered around the hallways super stoned out of my gourd while there was a meeting or something going on about pacifists and their rights. Funny that i managed to walk out sober. REminded me of fear and loathing.
The other time I was in Dam and ate 2 abraxis pot brownies (supposedly best shop in D for brownies) and i spent 3 hours online confessing my life to a girl that i did love but never kind of could get a hold for in my sexuality, she felt non existant, (pun really intended).
during this whole time it felt like someone was pulling my muscle fibers up through my back by "cutting" them away at the very lower back and then sort of pulling them away one long strand at a time while i felt on fire. Super kundalini high. I could maintain it for 2-3 hours before I vomited all over the internet cafe and was thrown out after cleaning. They put me to sit in the front on a chair and i spent the next 3-6 hours vomiting and being astral. Every time someone talked to me I threw up uncontrolably. One time one of my countrymen, passed by and commented to his friend ("look at that poor guy, throwing up on the street" to which i responded in our language "sure is, when ever you see someone throwing up on the street, its one of ours!")
Both times the internal experiences were much more interesting, the internal experience during the vomity confessy one was of me being alternatively high on kundalini and being tortured by these little spirits in a kind of "test your strength" thing.
Both a long long time ago.
2 pot things before 1 ayahusca thing.
I did LSD once and during the experience my girlfriend and guide turned first into spirits talking of me in the 3rd person, then spirits talking straight to me (You see your mind shifting), then to angels (see these things are angels of perception), then to archangels (see using these you can look behind you and at the god that is actually internal in the face of the external) then to nothingness (void in which i felt i was in roughly 20 years learning why not to lie) and then back into this nothigness with bright colors where my guide asked me "if he now knows more than me" i being absolutely exhausted from the experience and indifferent at that point i said yes. The other reason being that I felt he was asking if it was okay for him to put a filter on my incoming data stream from the cosmos to make some modifications that i wanted to make to myself. I said yes.
After that I went outside and ran into a friend of mine who asked if i wanted to teleport out, i said no, stating that those who want to jump out at this state, are, in my view, quite silly as this admitted ability to talk to the entities makes this playing field quite good.
Later on i felt that this was not a good answer to give and I shoul dhave, in stead, opted to jump to a random planet if given the option of coming back. Poor me for not asking about the return option right.
Anyway, after that I was "fully telepathic" that is to say, fully aware of everything connected and its matter in everything around me to the point of having no percetible ego difference and having random people around me say what I was thinking. That lasted roughly 5 months until I took mushrooms for the first time and navigated back to my own timeline and focused on a old relationship issue with a girl i have / had a crush on that floated around in my brain. With the help of my 2 neg guides I was able to "solve" this issue satisfactorily. Afterwards I ate mushrooms 2 more times, i think, but its possible its only once and the 2nd time is a piggybacked memory onto the side of the first one.
Anyway, during these trips i discussed a variety of things with neg and pos spirits and slowly started to integrate my 3rd eye more fully into the rest of my psyche. Slow work it but slowly paying off now that I have a feet in both worlds, so to say.
anyway. The long of it is that when you do enough hallucinogens at a single time you are kind of telling the other side that that is a good time to contact you. And they will start to do weird stuff around you to try to grab your attention in a good way until you "hone in" on the signal and then sort of try to talk directly to you through time. Kind of like channeling but boosted. So recommend caution and screen your guides well and ask for protection before and treat it as the point where the spirit may interact and you'll see intresting things.
Dunno, its worked for me though.
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