(11-19-2012, 01:01 AM)unir 1 Wrote:Not really. The desire to be whole is "built-in" as an unconscious attitude. The next level subsumes this level and so basically all of the qualities being learned are embodied by the 4D entity. This becomes problematic for learning the lessons of yellow-ray.(11-18-2012, 11:55 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(11-18-2012, 11:01 PM)unir 1 Wrote: You may be considering that some opportunities are distinctly essential because they pertain to learning about the nature of the entity (red-ray self, orange-ray self, etc) but I am saying that no learning opportunity is more essential than any other, so as to be lost/denied after something like 4D contact occurs.Disagree entirely due to short lifespans, fragile egos, and tremendous lack of responsibility and progress stifling demonstrated so far by the people. Through them, as the epitomization of a transcendent principle, we would seek all that we have denied ourselves.
So those things all incite a desire for transcendence, is that what you're saying?
(11-19-2012, 01:01 AM)unir 1 Wrote: Basically, when seeking to transcend, one would ultimately face those obstacles placed upon oneself, yet they would try uselessly to dodge them...like a cycle right? If I'm correct, I think I get what you mean when you're saying that such would be undesirable/prolonging development.Be aware that people are generally not consciously seeking to transcend - they are seeking a level of discomfort they are willing to tolerate. But you don't need to do anything about it. 4D completely understands the situation.
What is there to do about this?
(11-19-2012, 01:01 AM)unir 1 Wrote: I'm assuming from the next part of your post, that the intervention is not a good thing from any entity at all, or is there an exception?There are always exceptions. I'm talking about "nuts and bolts" societal interaction a la "walking among the people".
(11-19-2012, 01:01 AM)unir 1 Wrote: I would suggest a careful penetration into the distortions of the individuals, each 1, and dissolution of said distortions...what do you think would become of that?Prolonging the development of the individual by denying an opportunity for free-will choices. Working on your own "distortions" are the whole point of living.
(11-19-2012, 01:01 AM)unir 1 Wrote: Seems to me that if there was a contact...it would be as I said, not a very good idea. I'll ask this in a relevant way: if people started utilizing their opportunities, there would be (according to you) no need for contact or even a desire to transcend? I think it's obvious, but I still might be misunderstanding.If people started taking responsibility, development would be faster and we'd have more answers for ourselves.
(11-19-2012, 01:01 AM)unir 1 Wrote: For the bold part: Are you willing to describe the process/mechanics of this karma-like concept?It's in the material, I will locate the quotes.
(11-19-2012, 11:36 AM)Cyan Wrote: I'm still undecided on if such a Quarantine existed in the first place, on account of all the supernatural things i've witnessed my entire life.The quarantine has nothing to do with supernatural things.