The Bible: Hell is same as 4th density STS?

[christine10]

Xion thanks again for taken the time to respond I really appreciate your input!!

Very welcome! Yeah looks like we are supposed to wait until we are a 4th density society before we get the real scoop on things. I suppose it does make some sense not just laying out the full life of Jesus, it keeps us digging for the truth which I think is what the Confederation wants/the way it has to be, it would certainly be a huge upset to the religious community if they began divulging information that contradicted them and alot of pretty rough things could happen, if a Negatively oriented person got ahold of that information they could use it as motivation to try to burn down the entire religion for instance.

Supposedly, I have heard, that once our society becomes fully aware of the Space peoples/Confederation we are going to be given our true history, apparently some Social Memory Complexes just catalog the history of other societies and will be among the very first to greet us as a planet, gonna be pretty awesome if you ask me!

I would also point out there is a difference- albeit unacknowledged by many Christians- between Jesus, the human, and Christ, the higher consciousness, or spiritual office, that he came to embody. There is more than one historical personage that was given the title of Christ.

In the transcripts, there are these very strange and interesting sessions with Yadda that touch upon this notion of challenging in the name(s) of Jesus Christ:

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0802.aspx

A interesting point! I would say the different between Jesus and Christ is precisely the same as Jesus and The Word or Logos. I would say, to my current understanding, that Jesus the Man was his fake identity, Jesus the Christ was his true self, and that this situation is the same for all humans on Earth. The person we are, that personality which is grown and cultivated within our societal/physical illusion is just that, a fake illusion, a prison, a distortion of reality. The real us, once undistorted and reconnected to God you could say, is a part of the Christ/Logos. It is pure radiant love. I believe that in Greek philosophy some believed the creator to be perfect and the material universe/universe to be imperfect. Due to this, it was completely preposterous to think that the Perfect Creator could interact directly with the Imperfect Creation, and thus they philosophized the Logos. We of Earth, upon being born, are born into a sea of lies, we have to swim out of this sea and find reality. This is what Jesus did, he did what we must also do. He threw us back a rope as well, which is the testament of his life and the shattered remnant of the Church.

We are all parts of the logos of varying distortions/vibrations. When the distortions are cleared and one is vibrationally realigned with the Logos(Not even entirely I think) they become a "god", Child of God...Theosis...the lesser the distortion, the more a god one becomes...I think that that was a major screw up in Christian philosophy/doctrine, they switched out Word for Jesus/Christ and now everything is in shambles. Noone really gets it I think.

Where is this quote from?

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Another little-known factoid is that Carla did channel an entity called Amira who claimed to have incarnated as Jesus. More details here...

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...1#pid55041

The quote is 1 John Chapter 4


Yes I remember reading one of the earlier sessions that one of the entities who is regularly channeled(Like Qu'o or Hatton, can't remember exactly though) knows Jesus personally but always knew him by the name Amira. Another regular that pops up in new age circles is a entity purporting the name Sananda, supposedly also Jesus. Who knows....I do remember that Jesus was ministered to by Angels, and would have likely had tremendous amounts of interaction and communication with Spirits even at a early age, so there may be a few buzzing a

round L/L Research and the Confederation who were a part of that!

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Man alive, Yadda was a trip and very scary at times it seems. Was it a dis incarnate human or something? Man the things running around the Cosmos...
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Again.....agreed.....and understand that they dont wanna give away the ending.....SPOILER ALERT....fact is we'll all still go on, we'll find some other truths to seek and we'll all eventually die, knowing the truth isnt gonna prevent that from happening and the bible is supose to be fact, so if thats the case then theres really no truth about jesus to seek, its all been layed out for us .....also isnt their whole mission based on the truth.......seeking it....spreading it....unveiling it .....so with that being said maybe
the bible is completely accurate, otherwise wouldnt that be a pretty big distortion about an event that was sooooooo very monumental to mankind, cant imagine them letting something of such importance go so terrible wrong and to this day not still feel the need to clean it up(like the "Egyptians incident of 5000bc" hehehe not certain about that date) ya know what Im saying....I would think if they knew for the last 2000yrs mankind was baseing our whole spiritual lives on bogus storys wouldnt they be obligated to set it all straight..... right, cause the truth is what makes up a huge chunk of service to others ......Id think......am I right.....am I making any sense at all...hahaha....o the humanity of it all....hahaha...I sometimes over think crap and veer off base alil, please feel free to tell me when I do....wouldnt offend me one bit....hehehehe!!
I also believe and could be completely wrong but that the being jesus wasnt JUST jesus but would show up anytime/everytime in history when humanity needed spiritual guideness, he was all spiritual icons....buddah,gandhi,confucious...... I dunno.....but I know a group of beings that DO KNOW....hahahahaha!!

O and One other thing....I dont think it would hurt one bit if organized religion was knocked down a peg or two.....but I know, I know, I think over half the senior citizens in the world would all drop dead if the "HOUSE OF RELIGIOUS CARDS" came tumbling down!!

Oh well....like I said ....guess I just have to wait my turn!!!

Thanks again Xion its been fun bouncing my craziness off you, your a good sport!!!

See ya on the otherside

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There is no Bible hell.
Hell doesn't exist in the Bible.
No hell, and no everlasting punishment or torture.
Go ahead, try and find it.

The Church created hell, even though it has no basis in scripture.
Hell, and purgatory, and the limbos, and confession, make it easier to frighten people into obedience.

I studied this long ago, the date, the Pope, etc. I remember that it had something to do with a Church / State power struggle at the time. But I can't find it and I haven't the energy or time to do it again. I think the thought of eternal agony began at some point in the 2nd or 3rd centuries, and entered Cannon about 5th century. (?)

We live in a wise and loving universe. Love, patience, and understanding, reign.

Believe this, or not. Use your own free will to create your balance, or your fear.

DITO.....I always thought of "hell" as whatever you make of it in your mind.....never a actual place!!!


But as long as were on this topic can anyone answer me this.........

Where does Ra stand on the whole Jesus thing.....real/not real....I mean I know hes a 5th density being,4th when he walked earth but what I guess Im saying is......did it go down the way "they" said it did and was mary truely a virgin.....Im just curious and dont understand why there isnt chapters. about this in the Law of One....Im just saying....prolly would have been one of my top 10 questions!!!

Thanks for any help!!
Christine

As Thomas Hobbes wrote; Hell is truth seen too late!

I like it, I like it alot!!