11-23-2012, 01:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-23-2012, 02:00 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
(11-20-2012, 11:57 PM)XionComrade Wrote: I would say, to my current understanding, that Jesus the Man was his fake identity, Jesus the Christ was his true self, and that this situation is the same for all humans on Earth. The person we are, that personality which is grown and cultivated within our societal/physical illusion is just that, a fake illusion, a prison, a distortion of reality. The real us, once undistorted and reconnected to God you could say, is a part of the Christ/Logos.
So given this, what is the difference between challenging a spirit in the name of "Jesus", in the name of "Christ", or in the name of "Jesus Christ"?
Quote:It is pure radiant love. I believe that in Greek philosophy some believed the creator to be perfect and the material universe/universe to be imperfect. Due to this, it was completely preposterous to think that the Perfect Creator could interact directly with the Imperfect Creation, and thus they philosophized the Logos.
This discussion goes all the way back to the earliest Vedic philosophers. The question being: Is God transcendent from, or immanent in, the universe? The answer they came up with is: All of the Above. Hence the three aspects of divinity.
Quote:We of Earth, upon being born, are born into a sea of lies, we have to swim out of this sea and find reality. This is what Jesus did, he did what we must also do. He threw us back a rope as well, which is the testament of his life and the shattered remnant of the Church.
Yes, but are we required to use that rope? Or are there other ropes that will also work?
Quote:they switched out Word for Jesus/Christ and now everything is in shambles. Noone really gets it I think.
Yes, and "they" also identified Jesus as "LORD" and "SAVIOR". Very few get what that means, either.
Quote:The quote is 1 John Chapter 4
I find it instructive to see how these quotes are given in different versions of the Bible. For example:
Orthodox Jewish Bible Wrote:Chaverim, do not believe every ruach. [YIRMEYAH 29:8] But test the ruchot (spirits), if they be of Hashem, because many nevi’ei sheker have gone out into the Olam Hazeh.
2 By this we have da’as of the Ruach Hakodesh of Hashem: every ruach which makes hoda’ah (confession) of Yehoshua, Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach as having come in the basar is of Hashem,
3 And every ruach which does not make hoda’ah of Yehoshua is not of Hashem. And this is the ruach of the Anti-Moshiach, which you have heard that it is coming; and now it already is in the Olam Hazeh.
Now if I could only read Hebrew! And also Greek and Latin...

Quote:Man alive, Yadda was a trip and very scary at times it seems. Was it a dis incarnate human or something? Man the things running around the Cosmos...
According to my knowledge, Yadda is a 6D social memory complex channeled by Mark Probert and the Detroit Chapter of "Understanding" starting back in the 50's. Notice the L/L contact isn't until 1984. More info on Yadda here: http://www.soulwise.net/yada-00.htm
It appears that Yadda walked among the peoples of Asia in the distant past, and like the other contacts in Egypt and South America, there were unforeseen consequences. I find it interesting that Ra makes no mention of them.
(06-22-2012, 09:07 AM)ShinAr Wrote: In the Old testament budding into the New testament, there was a hebrew word, sheol if my memory serves me right, which refers more to the mass grave site where corpses were cast much like a public landfill. It was from this word that the word hell was spawned.
Sheol is more like where all the dead go, regardless of moral character. Similar to Hades of the Greek tradition. Although in some Old Testament verses which refer to the "righteous" and the "wicked" (as handed down from Zoroastrianism) Sheol becomes more identified as the place that only the "wicked" go when they die.
What you are thinking of is Gehenna, or the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, which is where corpses were burned outside of old Jerusalem, as Horuseus pointed out. It was also where apostate Israelites and followers of various Ba'als and Caananite gods, sacrificed their children by fire.
(07-14-2012, 05:14 AM)Charles Wrote: This is just my thought, but I think changing "a" into "the" has made a very big difference.
Funny how changing- or misreading- one little word can make all the difference in the world.
(11-14-2012, 04:51 PM)Horuseus Wrote: In addition to the above, in comparative eschatology one will find both Abrahamic Religions to present the idea of Hell being a disconnection with God at core.
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There is an important distinction to be made between historical eschatology found in the Judeao-Christian-Muslim (Abrahamic) line of thought as it contrasts to the mythical eschatology found, for example in the Hindu cosmology which posits a return to the Golden Age at the end of the cycle.