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    11-29-2012, 11:23 PM (This post was last modified: 11-29-2012, 11:32 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
    (11-29-2012, 09:51 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I don't disagree with any of that. The part I'm having issues with is identifying certain lessons as being covered in certain sub-densities. Maybe I missed it, but did Ra explicitly state that compassion for 2D entities was a late 4D lesson?

    No, I don't believe they spoke of the sub-densities in that detail. What we do know- as you have pointed out- is that it is easier for humans to have compassion for other humans than it is toward 2D entities. That much is self-evident.

    Beyond this, I think it's safe to assume that any lessons which involve the blending of energies come later on in a given density. This is because a certain amount of foundational work in each energy is necessary in order to begin the work of blending them.

    Quote:What I meant was, that unless Ra explicitly stated where compassion for animals fits in, to say it is a late 4D lesson is an assumption. To label anything as an 'early' lesson or a 'late' lesson seems to be making some assumptions.

    You were referring to Pickle's point about children being programmed by their parents to eat meat. I was simply saying wherein this programming has occurred, is was selected pre-incarnatively.

    Quote:We all took on great risk when we volunteered to come to this planet. Risk of what? Risk of taking on karma, getting stuck in the muck, even losing our polarity!

    Magnetic polarization, such as occurs in the mind, once acquired, is not easily lost. Though you are right, it is possible.

    Ionic polarization, such as occurs in a crystal such as water, is easily lost.

    Quote:The most common thing that happens of course is that they simply forget their mission and never awaken. And we know of 2 Wanderers who even woke up 'disconcerted' to learn they'd graduated STS! Yikes!!

    Well, that's true. But let's look at that quote in full:

    89.31 Wrote:Questioner: What techniques did the two negatively harvested entities use for negative polarization upon such a positively polarized planet?

    Ra: I am Ra. The technique of control over others and domination unto the physical death was used in both cases. Upon a planetary influence much unused to slaughter these entities were able to polarize by this means. Upon your third-density environment at the time of your experiencing such entities would merely be considered, shall we say, ruthless despots which waged the holy war.

    Do you suppose that Ra was referring to the domination and slaughter of animals here?

    Quote:If Wanderers can lose their way enough to actually switch polarities, then it isn't much of a stretch to surmise that they might get stuck in the muck enough to forget some of the lessons previously learned.

    We could surmise that- or perhaps certain lessons were deliberately veiled as we previously discussed. There's no way to really know. But I don't think this lends any evidence to believe that compassion for 2D entities is an early lesson in compassion.

    I think we may both be pushing the limits of any actual evidence from the material one way or another. Beyond this, all we have to go on is our personal experience.

    What I can say from my personal experience is that my first feelings of compassion for animals were in relationships with household pets. It didn't occur to me until much later that I could feel compassion for farm animals, like cows or chickens. And to this day, the notion of feeling compassion for sardines or locusts or sponges seems like a stretch. On the other hand, feeling compassion for other humans came quite naturally to me as a child. Though I do still have much foreseeable work to do as yet where compassion for humans is concerned. I might take a blind stab and say my lessons on compassion are 50 - 65% complete.

    And yet, here I am, on the precipice of "full 4D instreaming." Do you think I should be concerned about having to go for another round of 3D? Wink

    After our discussion, I do feel less sure of the birds-eye view of lessons that I had previously speculated upon. However, I still think it is fair to assume that easy lessons come before hard ones, and that lessons involving the blending of energies are likely to be advanced ones.

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    Humanity should respect animals. - by Cyan - 11-11-2012, 12:57 PM
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