I want information referring to detoxification methods people here have used/heard of

[Monica]

It can be a tough balancing act. For example, many people who come to see me have already tried- or are taking- probiotics. But often times I would recommend different strains, a different dose, or both.

A lot of probiotics on the market are pretty much worthless.

I usually leave it up to the patient to decide. I just give them the best theory and recommendations I feel I can muster. I like to have DNA microbiome analysis done whenever possible... but insurance doesn't always cover it and the test is $500 out-of-pocket.

You are able to isolate which strains they need, based on that test? Interesting!

You probably wouldn't be surprised to learn that a fair amount of people just want me to "tell them what to do." Those tend to be the most frustrating cases...

No, not surprised!

Funny, you want to work with the client...very refreshing! Most practitioners I've been to just wanted to tell me what to do, without working with me.

I just always found that so strange... didn't Jesus teach that the "Kingdom of God" is within us, and not to trust anybody that encourages us to look outside of ourselves?

He taught a lot of thing they seem to conveniently forget...

No no... I meant "everything" to apply to every treatment. Not everybody that receives the treatment.

You were referring to placebo...isn't placebo a function of the person, not the treatment?

Yeah- that's why I am leery of developing a formal protocol. But I do like options... and for the same price as my initial visit a person could get my "Gut Rehab Kit" and try it out for two weeks. It's not something that is meant for people to be on forever and ever.

I like your approach!

Also, I think you might be onto something with the fear of losing business by getting people well. I think that applies across the board- to both mainstream and alternative practitioners.

Yes. I've seen it happen more with alternative practitioners, because mainstream MDs don't even get that far.

That guru I told you about? I quit going to her when bluegreen algae addressed the female problems. So I told her about it. Guess what she said! "I can't get my patients on that...it would detoxify them too fast." (direct quote!)

Bad for her business!

And if practitioners recommended the water...and people got their blood pressure down, cancerous tumors started shrinking, fibromyalgia and arthritis pain disappeared, fertility was restored, etc., then their businesses would be impacted.

Of course, all those people would buy machines and the practitioner would make $$ that way, so it would balance out in the end, and they might even come out better in the long run. But they don't think about that...they just think about their profit. Never mind that the machine would continue to help people for decades to come, as well as ripple out to friends and family members as well.

It is one of the reasons why we started another business. The practice only provides about 15% of our total income... just enough to pay for itself and my student loan bills. And of that income, only about 15% is from the actual sale of supplements.

You have my respect!

I freaking HATE promoting my practice.

Why? If you are offering a legitimate service that is helping people, why not promote it?

Usually, I just write articles and do SEO on my website, and people find me through the Internet or word of mouth. But it can be frustrating knowing that there are all these other practitioners out there who have no scruples about playing the Pied Piper with their patients....

I think I know what you mean. I go through the same thing. I have to deal with people making assumptions about my water machine, because they've had a bad experience with some over-hyped product. They just assume mine is over-hyped too, and I have to get them past that.

Our water is actually waaaaaay under-hyped.

I know what you mean! That is exactly how I feel when people from the raw juicing community encourage everybody- especially very sickly and weak people- to consume massive amounts of fructose, and dangerously low quantities of protein. It's like... don't they even CARE enough to understand the basic nutritional needs of the human body before guru-fying themselves all over the Internet?!

I was a victim of that! Too much cleansing, too many colonics, too much fasting, not enough protein...then add to that, the distilled water, which that same guru told me to drink forever! All that stuff together almost killed me!

I learned later, from another practitioner, that she has "almost killed" lots of people! He said "she doesn't know when to stop."

Oh gosh yes... I am quite sure the bloody wars will end! And besides... once fully established in 4D... will bodies even have blood?!

But you were talking about people trying to outdo each other... so that's what I was getting at... emotional and mental battles.

I dunno about spiritual battles though... what would that even mean? A love v. light "deathmatch"?!

My guess would be like what happened to Carla...offers of negative service, declined by her, but they persisted...battles of will and choice.

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Interesting... didn't they suggest that acceptance is the key to positive polarization? I don't believe they discussed the spiritual value of rejection all that much...

They discussed free will and choice a great deal. Choosing one thing over another, automatically rejects that which is not chosen.