12-05-2012, 01:31 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-05-2012, 01:48 AM by Tenet Nosce.)
(12-04-2012, 06:19 PM)hogey11 Wrote: Going to Jesus' teachings on harvest is not offensive to me; I resonate with it. I'm not asking you to; i'm only stating what my understanding is. Shutting down my idea (caps or no caps) is not going to affect whether I hold it.
hogey- The full caps wasn't intended to be shouting over your view. It was just for emphasis. Next time I will use bold.
Jesus' parable of the harvest is not offensive to me. To the contrary- I would be more than happy to explore his ideas. What I was responding to was the fact that these particular ideas have been attributed to the Ra Material, when they are in fact not from the Ra Material.
Neither is the point that Ra is infallible, and therefore anybody who has a different take on something must be wrong. The point is that Ra said what Ra said, and Jesus said what Jesus said.
Is that too much for us to ask of a "New York Times Bestselling Author" is to give correct attribution to ideas presented in their works? Would I be any less "authoritarian" if I were criticizing somebody for misquoting Abraham Lincoln?
What is so offensive about me doing this?
Quote:My question is whether the negative influences can still hold true while we walk those stairs of light.
What do you mean by "hold true"?
Quote:Looking at the parable of the harvest, it may take the form of the 'tares' being collected first (STS harvestables), followed by the 'good wheat' once they have been removed.
Yes, let's look at that parable. It is consistent with the mechanics I offered above. It is also a parable. So I would interpret that to mean that Jesus knew about the mechanics, but spoke of it in parable as he did many other things.
As the lowest vibrations begin to cease, those who resonate with them would naturally cease their incarnations. So the most negative would be the first to die. Since harvest has become available, these will walk the steps of light and be transferred accordingly.
The Guardians of the Octave are responsible for the transfer. But they do not determine where the entity goes- that is self-determined by each entity. It is a natural process, there is no external judgment involved.
Quote:If we were to harvest both at once, the harvest would be spoiled with 'bad taste' (negative influences). That's where i'm coming from on this.
I was under the impression that Ra spoke of mixed harvest as if it were the rule, not the exception. Why do you suppose that it would be "spoiled"? What does that mean to you?
Quote:Would Carla and Jim take David into their house for nearly 2 years if David had negative intentions towards the teachings?
Where did you get the idea that I thought he had negative intentions?
Quote:Tenet, do we run around the forum attacking others for blatantly misrepresenting the material due to misunderstandings based on personal distortions?
We are in a discussion forum. None of us is an authority here.
If one of us were to author a bestselling book on a particular subject, that would be setting ourselves up as an authority. And if one of us did this- we would become responsible for the accuracy of the information we transmit into the group mind.
23.10 Wrote:Our difficulty lay in the honor/responsibility of correcting the distortions of the Law of One which occurred during our attempts to aid these entities. The distortions are seen as responsibilities rather than failures; the few who were inspired to seek, our only reason for the attempt.
Quote:We cannot assume they have the wisdom to tell one from the other because they haven't completed those lessons, nor are they set to. Not yet, anyways.
I'm not talking about "them." I'm talking about us. Those who have read the material. We already know the lesson. Now it has become our responsibility to put it into practice. That is the type of risk one takes upon themselves when coming in contact with this kind of material.
Quote:This is a good thing; it increases our 4D catalyst.
If you see battling as a "good thing" then so be it. There is no judgement of this. Eventually, you will come to see the battle as folly. But you already know that, don't you?
Quote:I never said it was 'our place' to inhibit STS. That would be the work of the guardians that oversee the 'harvest' (Jesus called them 'angels')
What business would those who have gone beyond the octave have "inhibiting" the entities within it? Wouldn't that be going against the free will of the Logos?
Quote:I have chosen to take Jesus' parable of the harvest more to heart than you have. That is why it matters.
Would you now care to re-evaluate that statement?