12-13-2012, 05:17 AM
(12-10-2012, 01:53 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: You said...
Ankh Wrote:My belief is that sending love always works out well,
Always... but with the forthcoming conditions:
Ankh Wrote:if this sending is seated in the green ray or above and
IF #1
Ankh Wrote:if there is no attachment to the outcome.
IF #2
I was agreeing but saying those (#1 and #2) are some big IFs, given the general population. Precisely because we are 3D beings. We all have yellow and orange ray distortions to contend with... and let's be honest with ourselves...
Perhaps just saying from my part that if the sending of love is seated in the green ray and above, it will always work out well, would be enough. Because if the sending is seated in the green ray, there is new true color entity (green ray activated), right?
But, you said it right there. Honesty is something that our people have in great paucity (and I primarily mean the honesty with the self). To be honest with our orange and yellow ray issues/distortions is something that is perhaps very difficult. Anywho,
Tenet Nosce Wrote:is there really no attachment to the outcome? For most people, I would say no. There is probably some attachment.
Is it really a pure green ray then? In my understanding, an attachment or control is coming from three lower rays, not from the green ray and above...?
(And it is this very honesty with the self, that illuminates and clarifies the real intention of any given action. But let us to be honest again, how many are doing that work or even aware of that kind of work in our society today? ; ))
Tenet Nosce Wrote:Ankh Wrote:I think that most of the times the love offered, or the "green bombs" as you have called them, might perhaps not be pure green ray, but is of mixed orientation of orange and yellow rays as well. But people need to learn these ways of love in their own way, in their own pace, somehow, no?
In order to answer this question, I think we would need to look very deeply at our inner motives. And these may not be clear due to the very distortions you mention. That's precisely the problem with yellow/orange ray distortions: In order to balance them we must bring in the blue/indigo which means being willing to bear witness to ourselves in our totality- which includes the shadow aspect of ourselves. It also means acknowledging our own hidden motives, and sometimes even being "brutally" honest with ourselves.
48.7 Wrote:There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self.
I completely agree with you.
However, "the green-ray entity is ineffectual in the face of blockage from other-selves" (41:25). This entity does not wish to control or have an attachment to the outcome of freely given universal love which is *unconditional*.
Of course, these purely green ray activated entities are, as we have said before, few. Most of the people who are trying/learning to radiate green ray, have also mixed polarity/orientation and blockages in three lower rays.
(My belief here again, that it is that "brutal" honesty with the self which is the light and the path leading out of the dark woods of the self, through the lower three rays, into the heart.)
Tenet Nosce Wrote:People try to control each other with love all the time "for their own good." An overbearing mother or spouse probably does not see themselves in a negative light... but the controlled spouse/child probably feels differently.
Often times, when the spouse/child thus controlled attempts to approach the controlling party, offense is taken, i.e., "How DARE you suggest that I have anything less than the purest of loving intentions toward you!"
In my opinion, that wasn't the pure green ray in the beginning. And as you continue speaking of taking offense:
Tenet Nosce Wrote:Obviously, "taking offense" is actually defensiveness projected outward. But good luck explaining that to the offended party in such a scenario...
Truth is, that the offended party has perceived that their "love is rejected." Of course, this isn't the case. What is the case is that the controlling energy that has become attached to the love has been rejected. But since "truth is subjective" the controller may continue to choose to perceive that their love has been rejected by their beloved.
Eventually, if the controlling behavior continues, the controlled spouse/child will likely decide that they must needs reject the love as well. But this is because the controlling-self has refused to accept the reality of their offering.
"Taking offense" sounds to me like an orange ray issue.
There is this quote of Ra, where they speak of our society, which might fit into this discussion:
Ra, 41:14 Wrote:In third density, at this time, those clinging to orange ray have a much more complex system of distortions through which orange ray is manifested. This is somewhat complicated. We shall endeavor to simplify.
The appropriate true color for third density is, as you have ascertained, yellow. However, the influences of the true color, green, acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self or green ray. This may not be seen to be of a negatively polarized nature, as the negatively polarized entity is working very intensively with the deepest manifestations of yellow-ray group energies, especially the manipulations of other-self for service to self. Those reverting to orange ray, and we may add these are many upon your plane at this time, are those who feel the vibrations of true color green and, therefore, respond by rejecting governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self.
However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus.
Tenet Nosce Wrote:They see only the green-ray component, and deny that the yellow/orange influences are present.
Yes, I agree. It is a sad but true fact about our "social memory complex".
Tenet Nosce Wrote:This is the stuff of "everyday life" that the average human has to contend with on a daily basis. My question: Is this a distortion that we wish to carry with us into fourth density? Or would we prefer to leave it behind?
Earth is distorted. Our mind/body/spirit complexes are furthermore distorted. Only those who have learned the activity called "loving" without any significant distortion will graduate. How many they are is not yet known as the Harvest is not yet, but it is said to be much less that this planet is able to comfortably support. It's difficult to say what exactly will and will not be carried with us into fourth density from this third density experience on Gaia and what will be left behind, but this is a sure very interesting Harvest!
Tenet Nosce Wrote:Nevertheless, attempting to control others with love is an infringement on free will. Though likely, an infringement of the most innocuous variety where karmic considerations are concerned. But this is due to the nature of the established relationships in one's life.
For example, if we are two family members attempting to control each other with love... well we probably already have karmic ties and that is why we have this kind of relationship. But to extend outside of those relationships and try to control strangers "for their own good" that might carry more weight where karma is concerned.
In my understanding, love doesn't desire to control. It is orange and yellow ray issues speaking here. And speaking of your example above, the reason to why these family members might keep incarnating with each other and might have karmic bonds is because of the choice they are here to make. What do they want to do in the so called "future", i.e. after this density? To love each other or to control each other? This is the density of choice where, as Ra put it, the statue is forged in the fire. The refinements are done later.
Tenet Nosce Wrote:Ankh Wrote:But I don't know what's "best" for Gaia...? She has indeed not requested love or healing, so even though Q'uo is encouraging us to send her love and light, is it infringement? What is your opinion about that?
Again, Gaia is the planetary entity. Part of her role is to accept whatever energies we feel to be in abundance (negative or positive) and to either neutralize them, or redirect them to the appropriate nexus. Gaia is like the system administrator par excellence of the global distribution network for love. We cannot overload her with love. And each of us has an intimate relationship with her, whether we acknowledge it or not.
Thank you for this! It was very helpful.