02-12-2013, 07:24 AM
(02-02-2013, 09:03 PM)Charles Wrote: Cyan Wrote:
Quote:I wouldn't put an animal to sleep unless its death was imminent (few hours) and it was in pain (broken bones etc right now with no hope of help such as an uninhabited island)
Many years ago my cat Ralph had cancer in his mouth. He couldn't eat. He could have lived, hungry and in pain, for a long time. Instead I held him and loved him as I said a merciful good by.
And the there was Molly my dog. Arthritis pain, I bought stairs to help her on and off the bed. She complained about having to walk outside to do her business. Old age allergies to everything, scratching herself constantly, and chewing on the bottom of her feet. Anemia, her gums were white (as was much of her fur), and as she lost blood, she also lost energy. Her anal glands had to be constantly expressed, because they kept hardening and no longer worked. I think I kept her alive for too long, and it would have been kinder to say good by sooner. When I did say good by, she knew full well what was happening, and she didn't take her eyes off me as she grinned at me with love.
vervex wrote:
Quote:My point is the following; if we valued animals' lives like our own, we would not be having this discussion right now. It is only because we, as a society, still see animals as below humans, creatures of lower worth, that we wonder if we should put them to sleep when they reach a certain age.
I wish we respected each other human beings, as much as we do animals. Death does not exist. Another dimension of joy and love and wisdom awaits us when we die. We meet our soul group, our Teachers, our Guide(s), our Elders, our soul mate(s), our friends. I feel qualified to say this because of my near death experience when I was 25 (car "accident"), and because of the Life Between Lives (LBL) work I do as a hypnotherapist.
People in their LBL sessions have often run and danced with their deceased pets.
I'm not suicidal, but I do look forward to my death. This knowledge serves me as a constant Light of joy in my life. Helping each other die humanely would be a kindness.
Great post, Charles.
(02-08-2013, 05:28 PM)norral Wrote: there are some wonderfully compassionate people herei do believe that all on this board are sensitive to the fact our animal friends are our brothers. i have never had to put an animal to sleep but i do believe their comes a point when it becomes clear that the animal is suffering tremendously. our daughter has a doggie now who is 11 or twelve years old and eventually she is going to get to the point where she may have to make that decision. and believe me there will be many tears if she is put to sleep. at some point i do believe it is more compassionate to put these beloveds to sleep. i also believe in euthanasia for humans. at some point the suffering is so great what is the point of living. to continue to suffer. why ? at some point the soul wants to be freed. the night my mother passed away she ate 1/2 of a danish coffee cake ha ha. she was diabetic and she would never have eaten that much at once. but she knew she was going and she said i am going out partying ha ha. good for her . we all have a time , this life is not permanent. if we can make the transition more comfortable for those we love , both animal and human, i am all for it.
norral
(p.s) my mom passed at the age of 91 . she lived a good life and was always surrounded by those who loved her
+1. Agree completely with you.