02-14-2009, 12:45 AM
(02-12-2009, 05:41 PM)Richard Wrote: Perhaps the wish for a “quick conclusion” or an “extended conclusion” has more to do with the circumstances of the individual at this time. (I include myself here, being firmly in the gradual change camp).It is a wonderful point you make Richard. May any thought or word that proceeds from my mouth or mind be anything but subjective? Is there a way to have an opinion about anything, most especially on a subject as profound as this, without it being extremely subjective, verses extremely objective?
Let us assume a premise: "Each/Every opinion one holds, most particularly regarding those subjects totally incapable of being substantiated, are in fact a self evident revelation about that individual."
Does this not stand to reason? Conjure up any example:
- I believe in God/I do not believe in God
Assuming the former: The God I believe in calls for an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. This God insists we as his children enforce His will. Example - we must enforce His will on one another, perhaps leading to the logic that abortionists are murderers, leading one to justify the murder of an abortionist.
- To the converse: The God I believe in is all forgiving, all knowing, all understanding, all patient. Example: The story of the prodigal son welcomed home by the loving father.
- The end is near mythology: dress it up any way you wish, inclusive of the 3D to 4D "Instantaneous Transition" vs The Gradualist's softer view that life finds a way
I would definitively agree with your assessment that the “quick conclusion” verses “extended conclusion” certainly has more to do with the circumstances of that individual's life than anything else. As much as the 'Metaphizler' believer in question ideally wishes to believe that he believes that "action follows thought", he is in fact experientially stuck by the truth of his words revealed, sadly unaware of what he thinks or says, this reflecting the very life he leads while wishing for a better one than he has. He in fact is molded by his circumstances, molding his thoughts, molding his circumstances, growing dizzy in the process wishing it were otherwise. Would it be any wonder he would want out? His thought and philosophy are therefore quite profoundly affected by his circumstances, irrespective of the flower of his words or weight of his intellect.
Experiment: Apart from the Evangelical who makes a mountain of money by proclaiming the end is near (suggesting he has a biased motive for expressing same), show me just one extremely happy man, completely content in life, loved and very much in love, and overall possessing a very happy disposition towards life, who expresses the sentiment that "the end is near."
To the converse: show me one man that expresses the sentiment that "the end is near" and let us honestly and openly assess if he is in fact equal in any respect to his happier brother.
Would the LOO dispute this logic or the bias of holding such a thought?
Q