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    03-24-2010, 01:50 PM
    (03-23-2010, 11:28 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Growing Cotton I see as violent.

    fairyfarmgirl, when I mentioned cotton, I had no idea I'd get such a strong response. I can see that you are very passionate about this.

    Even though you are I are approaching these issues differently, I see us as ultimately working together for the same cause. We both want harmony on the planet and a respect for all of her lifeforms.

    I would like to offer a suggestion which may explain why I have chosen to focus on the animal suffering issue.

    You are able to perceive fairies and other entities. Most people don't. I don't. I wish I did. I have tried many times to reach them, but to no avail. I perceive feelings from plants, but that's it. And average, mainstream people have even less awareness of the life around them.

    For most people, asking them to comprehend the feelings of a plant is beyond their present capability. It's too subtle.

    But these people can comprehend blood.

    Bloodshed is real, tangible. Blood is equated with pain, violence, and death. People understand bloodshed. People know that when a human bleeds, s/he is feeling pain. They comprehend this. They might not comprehend the consciousness of plants, but they can easily comprehend that when their dog gets hit by a car, he is in pain.

    It's a big leap to go from having compassion for human suffering to having compassion for plant suffering (if they do indeed suffer in the way that animals do, which I am not convinced of). But it's not such a leap for them to go from having compassion for human suffering to having compassion for animal suffering.

    Most people are oblivious to animal suffering. Most people have never visited a slaughterhouse and have no idea of the horrors going on there. But now, with youtube videos, all of that has been made public. I am a supporter of getting the ugliness out into the open where the light can shine in. People get offended when they see anything graphic but how else can they be made aware of it? Why should ugliness be swept under the rug?

    I honor and respect your passionate views about the raping of the Earth. I feel the same. What I'm suggesting is that we START with the animals!!! This is something people can grasp. They might not be ready to grasp the depth of what you shared in your last post. That is asking too much for them at this time. But they CAN grasp the image of a cow bellowing in pain, the look of terror in her eyes, the images of cruelty that have been preserved for all the world to see.

    If we could all work together to expose this OBVIOUS suffering of entities who are getting close to graduation to 3D, we could do so much good in the world. So much pain could be alleviated if animal suffering were brought out into the public awareness. This is what we animal activists are trying to do.

    I think it's fruitless to have a debate on who suffers more, the animals or the plants. We've already explored that and will have to agree to disagree, since there is no way to prove it one way or the other. But I think we might be able to agree that, for the average person, seeing an entity who has a face, with emotions displayed on that face, and the ability to express his pain and suffering, will have a greater impact than trying to get them to comprehend something more subtle and less tangible.

    I propose that we start with the more obvious suffering, and we will make more progress towards ending all suffering.

    blessings to you on your path

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    Veggies by Force... - by Brittany - 03-09-2010, 06:29 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by AnthroHeart - 03-09-2010, 06:42 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-09-2010, 07:28 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Lorna - 03-09-2010, 08:24 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Peregrinus - 03-09-2010, 08:31 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-10-2010, 08:14 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Eddie - 03-10-2010, 12:45 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Eddie - 03-10-2010, 04:31 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-10-2010, 12:51 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Eddie - 03-10-2010, 12:53 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Peregrinus - 03-10-2010, 01:29 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-10-2010, 07:09 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Brittany - 03-10-2010, 07:37 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Pablísimo - 03-10-2010, 07:57 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by artichoke - 03-21-2010, 11:25 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Brittany - 03-10-2010, 08:12 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by JoshC - 03-11-2010, 12:33 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by AnthroHeart - 03-11-2010, 12:44 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-11-2010, 01:01 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by ayadew - 03-17-2010, 02:10 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-17-2010, 07:40 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Brittany - 03-17-2010, 08:37 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Pablísimo - 03-19-2010, 10:52 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-18-2010, 10:28 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by thefool - 03-20-2010, 07:39 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-22-2010, 11:08 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Pablísimo - 03-23-2010, 05:05 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-23-2010, 08:56 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Pablísimo - 03-24-2010, 03:15 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-24-2010, 04:51 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by thefool - 03-24-2010, 06:40 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-24-2010, 06:44 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by AnthroHeart - 03-18-2010, 10:54 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Brittany - 03-18-2010, 11:03 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by JoshC - 03-19-2010, 03:16 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Pablísimo - 03-19-2010, 04:32 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Brittany - 03-21-2010, 07:10 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-19-2010, 04:08 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Lorna - 03-19-2010, 05:34 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-19-2010, 10:23 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by charlie2012 - 03-21-2010, 09:16 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by origin - 03-21-2010, 12:01 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by AnthroHeart - 03-22-2010, 10:53 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by thefool - 03-22-2010, 11:21 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-22-2010, 11:17 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Brittany - 03-22-2010, 11:23 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-22-2010, 11:55 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Lorna - 03-22-2010, 02:42 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Steppingfeet - 03-22-2010, 04:27 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-22-2010, 04:49 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Lorna - 03-22-2010, 05:13 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by JoshC - 03-22-2010, 05:49 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-23-2010, 05:38 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by thefool - 03-23-2010, 05:57 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Pablísimo - 03-23-2010, 07:51 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-23-2010, 07:54 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-23-2010, 10:11 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-23-2010, 10:59 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by artichoke - 03-26-2010, 01:13 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-26-2010, 02:49 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Pablísimo - 03-30-2010, 06:57 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-23-2010, 11:28 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-24-2010, 01:50 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-24-2010, 04:36 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Richard - 03-24-2010, 02:30 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-24-2010, 02:54 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Lorna - 03-24-2010, 05:24 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-30-2010, 07:33 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-30-2010, 07:48 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-30-2010, 08:31 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-30-2010, 09:04 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-30-2010, 09:12 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 03-30-2010, 10:04 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Brittany - 03-31-2010, 12:21 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by fairyfarmgirl - 03-31-2010, 08:33 AM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 04-01-2010, 06:12 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by Monica - 04-01-2010, 08:33 PM
    RE: Veggies by Force... - by thefool - 04-02-2010, 08:49 AM

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