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    Thread: Conscious Control over our Universe


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    08-24-2013, 06:15 PM
    (08-24-2013, 05:41 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (08-24-2013, 05:04 PM)rie Wrote: You try to convince someone that you won't reject them and that you love then, and they will not believe you bc this rejection/abandonment schema (pattern) is so strong... to them it's absolutely true in every case. Then ironically they push others away and therefore fulfill their expectations that indeed, they are going to be rejected, thus reinforcing their thoughts about others, themselves, and how relationships work.
    Well with such expectations you are limiting possibility. Such possibility is what allows a relationship to grow in the first place. In such a try-to-convince scenario, the other person's unconscious will additionally be seeing the necessary conditions imposed on how they may express themselves and how you are expressing yourself which may not find congruence in feeling consciousness. Also, if and when you become aware of the magical circumstance in a relationship, you can not control like that without being abusive because you are limiting free will.

    Maybe convince was not the appropo word - reassure. The stuff of orange ray attachment/bonding. I would think it's an emotional need to feel a bond with the 'object' of our affection. The dynamic seems to typically go where a person tries to elicit or seek reassurance from other (e.g., 'do you love me', 'am I worthy of being loved by you', or put negatively, 'I don't think you love me'). So other person responds to this desire/need by trying to express their feelings for other ('yes I love you', 'look, I do so many things for you how can you think that I don't love you'). So they pursue affection with each other but person who has strong abandonment/rejection template would have tendency to withdrawl by rejecting the thing they want most (the other person's 'love' or affection) by convincing self that it's not possible. So by reassuring, the person reassuring is attempting to answer a call from the other. In such a case then, free will is respected. However, it's possible that person reassuring other is just fulfilling their own needs/desires of their own. So there could be misunderstandings and unintentional or intentional tendency to control other... so it goes back to knowing own mind more...

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    Conscious Control over our Universe - by AnthroHeart - 08-24-2013, 03:19 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by Unbound - 08-24-2013, 03:50 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by zenmaster - 08-24-2013, 03:58 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by michael430 - 08-24-2013, 04:15 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by zenmaster - 08-24-2013, 04:28 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by michael430 - 08-24-2013, 04:30 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by zenmaster - 08-24-2013, 04:39 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by michael430 - 08-24-2013, 04:50 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by zenmaster - 08-24-2013, 04:56 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by michael430 - 08-24-2013, 05:02 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by reeay - 08-24-2013, 05:04 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by zenmaster - 08-24-2013, 05:41 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by reeay - 08-24-2013, 06:15 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by zenmaster - 08-24-2013, 06:31 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by reeay - 08-25-2013, 01:02 AM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by zenmaster - 08-25-2013, 02:56 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by Turtle - 08-25-2013, 04:41 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by zenmaster - 08-25-2013, 05:26 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by Unbound - 08-24-2013, 05:43 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by michael430 - 08-24-2013, 05:54 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by anagogy - 08-24-2013, 09:17 PM
    RE: Conscious Control over our Universe - by reeay - 08-25-2013, 05:29 PM

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