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    Thread: Biased view of STS...and INFINITY


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    02-18-2009, 12:42 PM
    (02-18-2009, 04:46 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I find this a rather curious perspective...I think this is the first time I've heard Ra being described as lacking understanding. I admit that I'm having a bit of a difficult time wrapping my mind around that one!

    I'd always thought Ra and indeed Q'uo were tolerant, understanding, and even rather nice towards STS...certainly more so than any religion I can think of!

    I suspected that I'd touch a nerve or two with that statement. And on further reflection, I should not have implied that Ra lacked understanding, but rather that, IMHO, he doesn't present the whole picture.

    Here's my real point. Many of the descriptions or explanations that Q'uo and Ra give for STS actions and behavior tend to produce judgmental responses in those that read them. As a recent example from another thread, let's consider:

    Quote:Q'uo October 11, 2008
    Ra says of karma that an entity that acts in a consciously unloving manner in action with other beings can become karmically involved. They also say that the stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. This raises an interesting question considering that in order to polarize, the negative entity is consciously attempting to exclude the energies of the heart chakra from all of its interactions with other selves.

    What then is karma to the negative entity? And if the negative entity accumulates such a thing as karma, how does the negative entity alleviate karma?

    We are those of Q’uo, my brother. To answer that query we must put you into the negative mindset. To the negative mindset, karma is delicious. The building up of it is delicious. There is joy in creating more karma because this is the by-product of control over others and manipulation of others. Consequently, there is no attempt to alleviate karma in the service-to-self path, but only to hone the edge of rage and anger until it is ever more penetrating and ever more effective.

    Time and again we hear that the nature of STS is control, manipulation, and disregard for other's free will and rights. Although I concede that this may be (but, IMHO, needn't always be) a characteristic of STS, what I hear ChaotikMind saying is that it misrepresents the true nature of STS which is simply concerned with itself primarily - but does not inherently wish to dominate and manipulate others.

    I also think that there is an elitism, of sorts, in many STO individuals because they feel that theirs is the "right" ultimate path, and smile when they think that in mid sixth density the STS entities must transition to STO in order to proceed.

    Is it not just as likely that early 6th Density STS teachers, inform their students that STO must convert to STS in order to continue? Consider this: Isn't the act of turning ones back on those lower density STO souls in need of service, in order to allow one to "turn inward toward the source" the ultimate self serving act? I suggest that STS entities do not have to become STO to proceed, and STO entities do not need to become STS to proceed. What must happen is that all polarity must be abandoned and a true balance achieved. For those watching this balance from an STS perspective, the STO becomes more like them, and vice versa. Ultimately, they all meet in the middle.

    This is why I like this thread. It gives me an opportunity to explore this STS aspect of creation and consider more fully the possible distortions inherent, yes, even in Ra's communications.

    In summary, I think that those things we do not understand, we are more likely to fear. I also believe that many quotes from Q'uo and Ra have resulted in some amount of fear of STS on the part of STO entities. I felt it myself, for example, when reading about the possibility of Carla being trapped in STS time/space and needing to incarnate and advance in STS space/time due to the trickery of an STS entity. Although Ra is clear that "all would have worked out well in the end", did it not create in you the slightest feelings of fear or anger for their wanting to be so deceptive? It did with me, and thus began my quest to better understand STS, and lose my fear and anger.

    All paths are one, and all lead to same beautiful conclusion.

    3D Sunset
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    Biased view of STS...and INFINITY - by Chaotikmind - 01-09-2009, 06:07 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 01-09-2009, 07:30 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by bring4th_steve - 01-09-2009, 10:15 AM
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    RE: Biased view of STS - by 3D Sunset - 01-09-2009, 12:50 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 01-09-2009, 01:06 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Thorne - 02-07-2009, 01:40 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by airwaves - 02-07-2009, 04:14 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 01-09-2009, 09:47 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 01-09-2009, 10:59 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 01-10-2009, 08:38 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 02-22-2009, 01:34 PM
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    RE: Biased view of STS - by Steppingfeet - 02-22-2009, 07:54 PM
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