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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Biased view of STS...and INFINITY

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    02-18-2009, 03:24 PM
    (02-18-2009, 02:45 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:
    (02-18-2009, 12:42 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Is it not just as likely that early 6th Density STS teachers, inform their students that STO must convert to STS in order to continue? Consider this: Isn't the act of turning ones back on those lower density STO souls in need of service, in order to allow one to "turn inward toward the source" the ultimate self serving act? I suggest that STS entities do not have to become STO to proceed, and STO entities do not need to become STS to proceed. What must happen is that all polarity must be abandoned and a true balance achieved. For those watching this balance from an STS perspective, the STO becomes more like them, and vice versa. Ultimately, they all meet in the middle.

    I understand your point but would respectfully disagree. I think by the time any of us get to 6D, all of this becomes merely academic. Undoubtedly there is much understanding yet ahead of us.

    As I read the LOO, polarities may exist until mid sixth density. I do not find it a coincidence that the mid point of sixth density is also the point at which the Higher Self, or Oversoul is given to the entity.

    Quote:Ra, Book II, Session 36

    Questioner: Let me take as an example the one that you said was called Himmler. We are assuming from this that his higher self was of the sixth density and it was stated that Himmler had selected the negative path. Would his higher self then dwell in a sixth-density negative type of situation? Can you expand on this concept?

    Ra: I am Ra. There are no negative beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality, of late sixth-density as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive.

    Therefore, the Oversoul which makes its understanding available to all who are ready for such aid is towards the positive. However, the free will of the individual is paramount, and any guidance given by the higher self may be seen in either the positive or negative polarity depending upon the choice of a mind/body/spirit complex.

    Ra, Book III, Session 69

    Questioner: Can you tell me the situation that the Wanderer finds himself in and the path back, why that path could not be the simple moving back into positive time/space?

    Ra: I am Ra. The path back revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative space/time. This may be a significant part of the length of that path. Secondly, when a positively oriented entity incarnates in a thoroughly negative environment it must needs learn/teach the lessons of the love of self thus becoming one with its other-selves.
    When this has been accomplished the entity may then choose to release the potential difference and change polarities.

    However, the process of learning the accumulated lessons of love of self may be quite lengthy. Also the entity, in learning these lessons, may lose much positive orientation during the process and the choice of reversing polarities may be delayed until the mid-sixth-density. All of this is, in your way of measurement, time-consuming although the end result is well.

    This is also consistent with the numerous references to "positive sixth density wanderers" throughout the Ra material.

    3D Sunset

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    Biased view of STS...and INFINITY - by Chaotikmind - 01-09-2009, 06:07 AM
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