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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters The mystery that perplexes me the most...

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    09-10-2013, 06:00 AM
    Um, isn't the Sun a self aware being?

    Also, could you give some citation to give some more body to your claims? Because it seems like you are just making things up to suit you. Smile

    Also, this seems to me to be a pretty clear indication that time/space is indwelled before space/time experiences become available.

    Quote:The experience or existence of space/time comes into being after the individuation process of Logos or Love has been completed 

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The second density strives towards the third density which is the density of self-consciousness orself-awareness. The striving takes place through the higher second-density forms who are invested by third-density beings with an identity to the extent that they become self-aware mind/body complexes, thus becoming mind/body/spirit complexes and entering third density, the first density of consciousness of spirit.

    Consider this carefully. The Sun is a sentient being consisting of all densities, including third density. The flaw in your logic is that you do not account for the self-awareness of the Sun.

    I am also somewhat as to a loss how you take "in potentiation" to mean non-existent...

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. Entities do not become enspirited. They become aware of the intelligent energy within each portion, cell, or atom, as you may call it, of its beingness.

    This awareness is that which is awareness of that already given. From the infinite come all densities. The self-awareness comes from within given the catalyst of certain experiences understanding, as we may call this particular energy, the upward spiraling of the cell or atom or consciousness.

    Self awareness comes from something already there, a seed recapitulating. It does not simply magically sprout out of nowhere.

    Also, I would ask you, if we are the Logos, and we experience no direct biases, then where exactly have all your personal biases come from? Are you not a biased logos?

    All levels exist simultaneously, so to attempt to place any "before" or "after" another is rather ineffective.

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. You are existing at all levels simultaneously. It is specifically correct that your higher self is you in mid-sixth density and, in your way of measuring what you know of as time, your higher self is your self in your future.

    If our future selves already exist now, then it is conceivable that there has always existed a third-density awareness which is able to invest in further third density awarenesses. Also, I think you are blurring the lines between "physical" and perceptual. Yes, there are perceptions which may be experienced in time/space that are "tangible" but just because something is perceptually experienced does not make it physical, per se. I feel the term is being stretched to be applied to any kind of perceptual experience, which personally makes no sense to me as I have many perceptual experiences which are not of the physical. Are you equating "form" with "physical"? As I understand it the chemical construct we experience as yellow-ray bodies are only one spectrum of experience.

    Quote:Questioner: When this Earth was second-density, how did the second-density beings on this Earth become so invested?

    Ra: There was not this type of investment as spoken but the simple third-density investment which is the line of spiraling light calling distortion upward from density to density. The process takes longer when there is no investment made by incarnate third-density beings.

    This also appears to clearly indicate that incarnate third density beings are NOT required for second-density to progress in to third as there is a natural activity of light which in itself also plays this role. While it takes longer, it is so.

    Is not light intelligent energy which is existent at all levels? Light is the "first being", I believe.
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    The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-08-2013, 08:28 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by AnthroHeart - 09-08-2013, 08:47 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by βαθμιαίος - 09-08-2013, 09:05 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by zenmaster - 09-08-2013, 10:55 AM
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    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-08-2013, 11:02 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by anagogy - 09-09-2013, 12:31 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by AnthroHeart - 09-08-2013, 11:14 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by GentleReckoning - 09-09-2013, 12:38 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-09-2013, 02:13 AM
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    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Unbound - 09-09-2013, 04:01 AM
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    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by anagogy - 09-09-2013, 09:03 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Unbound - 09-09-2013, 04:20 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Hototo - 09-09-2013, 04:25 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Unbound - 09-09-2013, 04:28 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-09-2013, 04:41 AM
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    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-10-2013, 03:00 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by anagogy - 09-12-2013, 11:21 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Unbound - 09-10-2013, 06:00 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-10-2013, 07:31 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Aloysius - 09-10-2013, 09:49 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Unbound - 09-10-2013, 11:27 AM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-10-2013, 12:52 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-13-2013, 02:54 PM
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    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-13-2013, 03:47 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Unbound - 09-13-2013, 03:52 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Adonai One - 09-21-2013, 12:53 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by AnthroHeart - 09-21-2013, 01:53 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Diana - 09-21-2013, 02:13 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by Hototo - 09-21-2013, 07:49 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by AnthroHeart - 09-21-2013, 08:33 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by anagogy - 09-21-2013, 11:33 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by AnthroHeart - 09-22-2013, 12:55 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by anagogy - 09-22-2013, 01:43 PM
    RE: The mystery that perplexes me the most... - by AnthroHeart - 09-22-2013, 02:00 PM
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